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Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro

I'm glad everyone had success with the work-around previously discussed.


Cindori: Seems many people have applied the 10.6.4 update, applied the kext install tool mentioned in my previous post... but to be clear, what method should be used from that stage? Does everyone have to start over with the combo update, or can it be applied on top?

Also, what is the gains with what you have provided (not that I'm suggesting it's not worth consideration... but everything is working at the moment if you know what I mean).
 
Drexus said:
Cindori: Seems many people have applied the 10.6.4 update, applied the kext install tool mentioned in my previous post... but to be clear, what method should be used from that stage? Does everyone have to start over with the combo update, or can it be applied on top?
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from that stage? to what?


Drexus said:
Also, what is the gains with what you have provided (not that I'm suggesting it's not worth consideration... but everything is working at the moment if you know what I mean).
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nothing, except it's an easy installer pkg, not everyone are comfortable handling kexts, allows distribution through zeus also
every QECI pkg that has been released is simply a kext installer, of course you can handle the kexts manually, but it's tedious

i'd like someone to confirm the pkg works though
 
Cindori said:
i'd like someone to confirm the pkg works though
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Hi Cindori. I have a Sapphire HD 4890 new edition, and currently have it working with the 10.6.3 kexts. Do i need to revert back to the original 10.6.4 kexts to try your patch? Because i think i can just run it over my current files.. Also, you are stating that the update gets us lower performance... any reference so i could read further into this? Why would they build drivers to support OpenGL 3.0 but make them worse is something i'd like to find out
 
Ok good news, my 4870 is back up and running to perfection. Thanks for the help so far. The repairing of the disk permissions and then reinstalling the update worked. Though my 4890 is still not working. I'll see what I can do and I'll post if I'm unsuccessful.

Update: Oh another thing I forgot to mention. When I go into system prefs, and go to displays it shows one right between the two windows I've got going to the 4870. It's weird, it's like its their but it's not. Any thoughts?
 
sOwL said:
Well that link shows just a statement. Anyway, since i don't really play games on mac (windoze partition ftw???) i can't tell myself. I got a clone of my system prior the update so i can test your patch there. I'll post back later today
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just a statement? i can guarantee the issue is very real if steam goes so far as to start asking users not to update.
 
Cindori said:
just a statement? i can guarantee the issue is very real if steam goes so far as to start asking users not to update.
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I'm not saying its false, done some googling myself and it seems that especially people having Nvidia chipsets are having most of the trouble. All im saying is that the link you gave me shows a post of a random guy hammering apple without backing up his claims.. I can understand how somehow they fcked up with OpenGL 3.0, but why on earth would they mess with anything else and break it?? Also, i'm not sure whom to blaim, apple, nvidia, ati, or everyone? This is so childish by whoever is responsible for it
 
ATI 10.6.4 patch won't install

Hi all,

First, many thanks to Cindori, Rominator, Netkas, and all the others who contributed to this project. Your hard work is very appreciated.

I have a Mac Pro 1,1. I've installed an XFX 4890 ZSFC V1.6 that I was able to successfully flash with Zeus and the 'fan modified rom' found elsewhere here. All worked great until 10.6.4.

I tried installing Cindori's patched drivers and although it looked like they installed, they didn't. Attached is the installation log report.

Card is working in 10.6.4 with no QE or CI acceleration.
 

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dual display working?

hey all -

i tried the 10.6.4 update with cindori's patch, but am only getting one display to work and according to zeus, no qeci. i'm running a macpro 3.1 with the early version of the sapphire 4890. so here's what i did: i ran the update, cindori's patch, then repaired permissions and rebooted. upon reboot i had only one display and no qeci. i ran the patch again and rebooted. same result. i tm'ed back to 10.6.3 and that's where i am now. any ideas on what went wrong?

thanks!

mike
 
Please help with XFX HD4890 ZDFL 5.2 rom

Update: Just flashed with my own BIOS and it works !!! I installed QECI_1064.pkg, but I still got Apple Software Render. How to fix it ?
 

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4890 in LA?

I am feeling rather useless to these 4890 problems as I don't have one anymore and it is difficult to help.

Also, I think mny people posting issues are both confused and confusing. (posts aren't clear, not sure they are)

If there is someone in Los Angeles area with a troubled 4890 who can explain succinctly what they have tried and what the results were, I would be willing to give it a whirl.

To whit, you bring the troublesome 4890 here and leave with me for a couple days next week. If I can decipher & fix the issue, you owe me a six of Stella when you pick up card. If I can't fix, nothing owed.

We post issues, pix, and which fix worked so as to help others with similar cards.

Anyone?
 
All these troubles are the reason why I haven't updated to 10.4 yet. Maybe I'll wait until 10.5 comes out.

Hopefully someone can make a streamlined process for updating these problems.
 
Cindori said:
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2010/06...-how-to-develop-drivers-for-its-graphic-cards

I need someone with fresh 10.6.4 to test it, you could rerun combo update and then try the patch.
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It does not work; see my previous post. I've tried installing the pkg with default/standard install, then customized with various combinations of ATIFrameBuffer only, that + ATI Support, and those 2 + ATI4800Controller. I re-ran the 10.6.4 Combo Update every time. If there's something else you would like me to look at (maybe what kexts exist after 10.6.4 install and which ones exist after your patch?) please let me know.

Of course, this only applies to the HIS H489FT1GP Radeon 4890.

Thanks for your continued work on it though.
 
Hey Guys,

I thought I share my experience with my 4890 and how I got mine to work.

I installed the 10.6.4 combo update.

Installed the 10.6.3 patch from Zeus

Restarted my Mac

Checked to see QECI was enabled, it was according to Zeus

Installed DualDVI patch

Restarted again

Dual monitor & QECI are working



Now this is where things got bad, Playing Portal, I get serious frame-rate drops when looking at the portals, This never happened before the update to 10.6.4

I checked the extensions profile
ATI kexts look like this

ATI4800Controller ver.1.6.6
ATIFramebuffer ver.1.6.6
ATIRadeonX2000 ver.1.6.10
ATISupport 1.6.6

I dont know if its the ATIRadeonX2000 causing the problem, but I just thought I'd share my two cents.
 
AnimeFunTv said:
Hey Guys,

I thought I share my experience with my 4890 and how I got mine to work.

I installed the 10.6.4 combo update.

Installed the 10.6.3 patch from Zeus

Restarted my Mac

Checked to see QECI was enabled, it was according to Zeus

Installed DualDVI patch

Restarted again

Dual monitor & QECI are working



Now this is where things got bad, Playing Portal, I get serious frame-rate drops when looking at the portals, This never happened before the update to 10.6.4

I checked the extensions profile
ATI kexts look like this

ATI4800Controller ver.1.6.6
ATIFramebuffer ver.1.6.6
ATIRadeonX2000 ver.1.6.10
ATISupport 1.6.6

I dont know if its the ATIRadeonX2000 causing the problem, but I just thought I'd share my two cents.
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Strange, when i first updated to 10.6.4 and found out that i was being stupid again (yeah i updated to both 10.6.3 and 10.6.4 without even thinking that my graphic card will need tweaks to work :S) the first thing i did was to install the 10.6.3 patch. It gave me back my wallpaper and eliminated all the tearing i initially got after the update, but things like translucent menubar etc didnt work and zeus reported that QECI was not enabled. I can't tell about dual dvi issues since my card has one dvi and one hdmi output and unfortunately there is no way yet to get hdmi to work under osx. Currently i used the method others used with success, and copied older 10.6.3 kexts manually to get it working, and i havent noticed any drop on performance compaired to prior the update.

Oh and, Cindori.. I blew my backup so i guess i'll have to make another backup of my current OS and then re-aply the combo update. I'll try to find some free time and post back
 
AnimeFunTv said:
Hey Guys,

I thought I share my experience with my 4890 and how I got mine to work.

I installed the 10.6.4 combo update.

Installed the 10.6.3 patch from Zeus

Restarted my Mac

Checked to see QECI was enabled, it was according to Zeus

Installed DualDVI patch

Restarted again

Dual monitor & QECI are working
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I get all works ! but dual monitor not work ! I have 2 dvi ... everything mixed here and no detect for monitors there is no such main monitor or primary monitor I can't choose at boot MENU I get one monitor only works and it's work with macosx , when choose bootcamp ... it's turns off and other start to works
problem I want to works with only one monitor :eek: and the 2nd being optional !
 
The Rominator said:
I am feeling rather useless to these 4890 problems as I don't have one anymore and it is difficult to help.

If there is someone in Los Angeles area with a troubled 4890 who can explain succinctly what they have tried and what the results were, I would be willing to give it a whirl.

To whit, you bring the troublesome 4890 here and leave with me for a couple days next week. If I can decipher & fix the issue, you owe me a six of Stella when you pick up card. If I can't fix, nothing owed.

Rominator, I'm a Newbee in Colorado, and my attempts to flash an original Sapphire 4890 with Zeus failed. I would be glad to send the card to you for experiments and work with Cindorri and others in 10.6.3/10.6.4, and postage for return mail, later. I assume all risk. Stella money will be sent.

Please contact me off the forum.

Thank you.
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Your patch worked to me!!

Cindori said:
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2010/06...-how-to-develop-drivers-for-its-graphic-cards
I need someone with fresh 10.6.4 to test it, you could rerun combo update and then try the patch.
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Hi Cindori,
Your new patch worked here!! Very nice! I have had numerous trouble trying to get this ATI 4890 working with OS 10.6.4 and and our Mac Pro 1.1 from 2006 (2x2.66).
Before this I had heavily flickering screen as soon as I used Aperture, DVD SP etc.

With your new patch all programs seem fine and the ATI 4890 is driving 2x24" monitors 1080x1920.

THANK YOU:D:D
 
Cindori,
Sorry but I forgot to mention that I did NOT start with a fresh 10.6.4 before running your patch. I had installed many kexts before trying the patch. However, all is fine here now running 32 bits.
 
I need someone to try


Fresh install + my QECI

and

Fresh install + manually move kexts


and see how the results vary, test QECI in Zeus + a game or two, and say what what kexts you moved

to get a fresh install you reinstall the 10.6.4 combo update from apples website

link to QECI is
http://groths.org/QECI1064.zip

thanks.


ps. it's not me your helping, it's the community
 
Cindori said:
I need someone to try
Fresh install + my QECI
and
Fresh install + manually move kexts
and say what what kexts you moved

to get a fresh install you reinstall the 10.6.4 combo update from apples website

link to QECI is
http://groths.org/QECI1064.zip
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One thing I did notice was that ATI4500controller version 1.6.10 was in /System/Library/Extensions, and all the other graphics-related kexts were at their proper 1.6.16 version. I have no idea how that happened, since I have never manually moved any kexts on this volume... ever. I have only used Zeus since installing this card under... 10.5.8 maybe? (posts from "cryptoseven" back in the 50-70s page range in this same Ultimate thread)

So I removed that 4500 kext, repaired permissions, flushed all caches, reinstalled 10.6.4 combo update, re-downloaded the patch and re-applied it. QECI still disabled. I can tell not only from what Zeus says but from opening a few windows and tapping F9. It's all choppy. That, and the fact that Cmd+Shift+3 and 4 no longer operate.

Since I have this volume backed up as a 10.6.3 startup vol. before I applied 10.6.4 and I have not made any major changes (it's a recovery/iDefrag/DiskWarrior/Drive Genius/etc-dedicated 1 volume hard drive), i'm going to erase the whole thing, format it as HFS+, install 10.6 and then take it 10.6.4 directly and then apply the patch. That will eliminate all other programs and whatever weirdness I had going on w/ the 1.6.10 kexts and any other possibly accumulated junk... I hope that works.

If not, I'll try the ProfDrLuigi method and let you know, although I must confess since I have never manually moved any kexts before, I dont exactly know what I'm doing in that arena. I do have that Kext Helper b7, but if someone could repost which, EXACTLY, of the like 3 or 4 ytrox, Luigi, etc. kext collections or pkg already mentioned herein I should be using, I would really appreciate it.
 
Cindori said:
I need someone to try


Fresh install + my QECI

and

Fresh install + manually move kexts


and see how the results vary, test QECI in Zeus + a game or two, and say what what kexts you moved

to get a fresh install you reinstall the 10.6.4 combo update from apples website

link to QECI is
http://groths.org/QECI1064.zip

thanks.


ps. it's not me your helping, it's the community
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It's not working with my XFX HD4890. Still no Quartz Extreme :/

CineBench is working on Apple Software Renderer.
 
Got to 10.6.4 with dual DVI working but no QECI

Starting point:
MacPro 2.1, XFX 4890 v1.6 card, all working with 10.6.3 and the ATI Driver patch 10.6.3, and 10.6.3 dual driver patch running 2 x 1600x1200

Steps taken:
Cloned the 10.6.3 boot drive
Booted from clone, installed 10.6.4 combo updater, did not restart
Installed ATI Driver Patch 10.6.4 pkg (same as Cindori's link http://groths.org/QECI1064.zip)
Restarted, no dual DVI after restart

Ran the 10.6.3 dual driver patch that installed kexts:
ATI4800Controller, ATIFramebuffer, ATISupport dated 8/9/09

Restart, dual DVI now working, no QECI

Came back here and downloaded Cindori's link thinking it was a new QECI_10.6.4 not knowing it's the same ATI Driver Patch 10.6.4 pkg that I already installed. So all working, but no QECI.
 
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