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Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro
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yeah the grey boot screen is the verification
do you have any other graphic cards in the mac?
how many screens connected?
There's a 7300, two DVI's screens connected
There's a 7300, two DVI's screens connected
Update: I just had forgotten to say that when i log in SL, i get the Cosmos desktop picture, with no logon window, i have to put the mac on sleep, wake it and then i get the logon window.
+ i used the old ATI flash app should i do it again with the new one?
Mackilroy, thanks so much! I have the same one. I had some screen flickering issues but after reapplying 10.6.2 update and using Cindori's 1.2 flashing tool everything works perfectly.
Many thanks to Cindori !!!
electrical?
Quick question about the electrical... the HIS 4890 H489FT1GP has 2 power plugs on the gfx board: One 6 pin socket, and one 8 pin socket. My old ATI 3870 has only *one* 6 pin socket of the same type which is on the 4890, and this is attached to a cable that goes to the MacPro1,1 mother board.
The card also came w/ 2 cables: one 8 pin rectangular which splits to 2 molex, and one 6 pin rectangular (same as the 3870) which splits to 2 molexes. Do I use BOTH the 8 and 6 pin cables and then one molex plug from each of them into the first of the two molex splitters i obtained separately?
Or, do I plug the 6 pin socket from the mo-bo into the six pin socket on the 4890 board, and then use both of the 8 pin socket's split molex's into the first of 2 molex cables which i obtained? But basically the cable from my mo-bo fits into one of the 2 plugs on the 4890 board (the 6 pin). I'm under the impression I should combine the 8 and 6 pin into one cable going to the single molex plug available on the optical drive 2-plug power cord.
I hope that makes sense...
Quick question about the electrical... the HIS 4890 H489FT1GP has 2 power plugs on the gfx board: One 6 pin socket, and one 8 pin socket. My old ATI 3870 has only *one* 6 pin socket of the same type which is on the 4890, and this is attached to a cable that goes to the MacPro1,1 mother board.
The card also came w/ 2 cables: one 8 pin rectangular which splits to 2 molex, and one 6 pin rectangular (same as the 3870) which splits to 2 molexes. Do I use BOTH the 8 and 6 pin cables and then one molex plug from each of them into the first of the two molex splitters i obtained separately?
Or, do I plug the 6 pin socket from the mo-bo into the six pin socket on the 4890 board, and then use both of the 8 pin socket's split molex's into the first of 2 molex cables which i obtained? But basically the cable from my mo-bo fits into one of the 2 plugs on the 4890 board (the 6 pin). I'm under the impression I should combine the 8 and 6 pin into one cable going to the single molex plug available on the optical drive 2-plug power cord.
I hope that makes sense...
Thank you! I used GPU-Z and ATI RBE both just to be safe... GPU-Z seems to be the best since it has a one-click ability and I did not have to mess around with atiflash's command line interface.
Okay, now I'm really confused. Mine is a blue board H489FT1GP... one 8 pin power socket and one 6 pin power socket on the card. I believe this is what is meant by "8x6" and "6x6"?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4161278&cm_re=HIS_4890-_-14-161-278-_-Product
MacKilroy,
Is this the same card as yours? It shows a red board, but mine is blue w/ the two 8x6 plugs. The insert with the card said "HIS does not recommend putting a 6 pin plug into an 8 pin socket" but is that what you've done? You stated earlier it was powered from the optical drive - but from your image it looks like you have TWO 6x6 cables and I cannot tell if one or both of them is attached to the mother board...
I currently have an ATI 3870 with one 6 pin power socket, and it uses the Mac Pro cable included which seems to go direct to the mother board... no molex involved, and it does not go to the optical bay as far as I can tell (I know they all go the same place eventually, but I am not sure if I should use this cable AND the 8 pin or get both cables to the optical through what is pictured).
I am under the impression that on this new HIS 4890 I need BOTH the 8-pin and the 6-pin socket filled. The card also came with 2 cables: 8 pin to 2 molex and 6 pin to 2 molex. I am getting ready to plug both in, and then connect one molex from each to the first molex splitter in the chain of 2? And the second molex splitter is just for length to get it up to optical bay?
Cindori,
Is that what you did? Alternatively, I can plug the 6 pin cord into the mo-bo, and the 8 pin cord has 2 molex which both can go to the optical drive power supply through my two molex splitters. But I don't know if it can do 6 pin -> mo-bo and 8 pin to optical drive. Too much power? I'd rather err on the side of too little power.
Basically, I'm terrified of frying this thing in a ~$200 experiment... Anyone who knows electrical stuff might be able to get a free ATI HD 3870 from me if they know for sure!!
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Plug the 6-pin into the motherboard. Take either the 8-pin or 6-pin (honestly, it doesn't matter one bit) and then plug in one of the molex plugs into the second optical drive power plug-in. I wasn't able to do that without removing the optical drive itself and having it sit on a stack of books outside the machine
but you could always grab an extension cable if you don't want to wait a week for ATI to ship you another 6-pin PCIe cable.The discrepancy in how I had the card comes from this: at the time of the earlier post, that was how I had it. At the time of the pictures I'd posted, I'd received my new power cable from ATI and was using that. No, your card isn't the same as mine - you have the Turbo edition, mine is similar but has the standard clock.
Yes, I put a 6-pin PCIe cable into an 8-pin slot. No power issues at all, it runs exactly the same as it did when I was using the molex cable. Both the PCIe cables are attached to the motherboard - if you'd like more pictures I can take them.
It looks like from the picture you've posted that you have the cables plugged into the molex adapters properly, but I can't see the other end of them so who knows what's going on down there.
Ok, same problems with this config... Should I retry flashing it with the updated version of ATIflash tool and another Rom?
Or same Rom and new QE_ce ?
UPdate: Tried with the new ATI tool, and the original 4890 Rom, got the startup Apple logo, then the screen is all with stripes and Osx boots, but the display is white with some dots... Probably not the good Rom. Or is it that i have to manually remove QE_ce and then reinstall?
Sounds normal to me. You have your profile set to boot with automatic login. (System Preferences, Accounts, Login Options: Top drop-down menu) When your screen saver comes on you need your password because you have this set in the Security setting (System Preferences, Security, General: First check-box)
This is all normal.
Unless you mean you don't get to the desktop... and this is happening between. I'd say then you have a permissions issue. Or the login screen is showing in another monitor (visible or not) and the system is confused.
The original Rom means the normal mac-ised4890 sapphire Rom included in the package.
Not the OC. Then i tried the mac-ised 4890 New edition (Quimonda) since openening the card revealed it had Quimonda chips. And same result, Apple logo with stripes, then i acess the desktop with horrible lines everywhere, no recognisable item displayed, no hand on the system that appears to freeze, and that does not happen when i get back to the 7300, the system loads steadily. Should i get rid of QE_Ci and reinstall it? Im a bit surprised since this 4890 is very close to the original (graphically speaking)(woman holding 1gun, old red fan), Having Quimonda chips in it makes it definitely a New Edition?
Not the OC. Then i tried the mac-ised 4890 New edition (Quimonda) since openening the card revealed it had Quimonda chips. And same result, Apple logo with stripes, then i acess the desktop with horrible lines everywhere, no recognisable item displayed, no hand on the system that appears to freeze, and that does not happen when i get back to the 7300, the system loads steadily. Should i get rid of QE_Ci and reinstall it? Im a bit surprised since this 4890 is very close to the original (graphically speaking)(woman holding 1gun, old red fan), Having Quimonda chips in it makes it definitely a New Edition?
OK, gonna try that... So having the Quimonda chips makes it a 'new edition' despite having the regular red fan and drawing on box?
yes, the only reason this "qimonda vs hynix" history was brought up, is because the New Edition sapphire suddenly switched chip manufacturer, and the rom changed, so we had to make a second rom for it.
Doesnt have anything to do with the red sapphire.
Doesnt have anything to do with the red sapphire.
Will there be any notable difference if I upgrade from my Apple Ati 4870 to the 4890 1GB?
Just wondering, I use my MP for Aperture, FCP, CS 4, but I guess this would primarily for running Team Fortress 2 through Crossover games. My fps is soooo much better with the MP then my MBP, just wondering if there will be any notable increases from the 4870 to 4890? Thank you Cindori for making this so easy!
Just wondering, I use my MP for Aperture, FCP, CS 4, but I guess this would primarily for running Team Fortress 2 through Crossover games. My fps is soooo much better with the MP then my MBP, just wondering if there will be any notable increases from the 4870 to 4890? Thank you Cindori for making this so easy!
Thanks for the suggestion, I will stick with the 4870 as I am very happy with it.
So you're thinking Apple will upgrade to the 5870 for its Mac Pro line?
So you're thinking Apple will upgrade to the 5870 for its Mac Pro line?
Sapphire Card
I just ordered a Sapphire 100269HDMI Radeon 4890 New Edition from Newegg (N82E16814102852). I will be upgrading a 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 from an Apple 8800GT which was an upgrade from the X1900. I already have 2 of the 6-pin cables (One came with the original X1900 and one came with the 8800GT).
As I understand from reading all the post here, what I can do is this:
1. Run the ATI Flashing Tool and install the injector (Natit).
2. Shut down and install the 4890 and remove the 8800GT. Put in the 4890 card and determine what type of memory (Hynix or Qimonda).
3. Attach 6-pin cable to motherboard and plug both cables into 4890 card.
4. Boot OS X and run ATI Flashing Tool.
5. Flash using the appropriate Sapphire 4890 new edition rom.
6. Remove Natit.
7. Install qe_ci package.
8. Reboot.
Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks.
I just ordered a Sapphire 100269HDMI Radeon 4890 New Edition from Newegg (N82E16814102852). I will be upgrading a 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 from an Apple 8800GT which was an upgrade from the X1900. I already have 2 of the 6-pin cables (One came with the original X1900 and one came with the 8800GT).
As I understand from reading all the post here, what I can do is this:
1. Run the ATI Flashing Tool and install the injector (Natit).
2. Shut down and install the 4890 and remove the 8800GT. Put in the 4890 card and determine what type of memory (Hynix or Qimonda).
3. Attach 6-pin cable to motherboard and plug both cables into 4890 card.
4. Boot OS X and run ATI Flashing Tool.
5. Flash using the appropriate Sapphire 4890 new edition rom.
6. Remove Natit.
7. Install qe_ci package.
8. Reboot.
Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks.
Alllriggghhttt... I must admit im a bit lame from time to time (if not everytime).
After reinstalling, reupdating to 10.6.2, reflashing using 4890 Sapphire mac-ised Rom, i get the same result! Im gonna chill a bit, and try different things(Roms). Or use the injectors method... sniff