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Ultimate Thread: 4890 in Mac Pro

I removed it because I thought it would be easier not having to wire up both cards for power. I thought I read about someone else using screen sharing also. Is it necessary to have a working card in the Mac Pro for success?
 
Cindori said:
that is a new model, as you can see from the card table it does not match anything from the Injector list.

dump your rom with GPU-Z in windows and upload
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So, I shut down, and booted into WinXP via bootcamp (just to verify that it works and everything) and it's all fine.

I shut down again, removed the X1900xt, and installed the 4890 in its place. Booted up with (option) held down, and nothing happened. (I was not prompted to select my startup volume)

I'm back in OS X on the X1900xt now. Am I supposed to do something in boot camp or using the injector/flash utility before I attempt using it via boot camp first?
 
Thinking that flashing the card using screen sharing was the causing my problems I put both cards in at the same time. Slot 1 had the 4890 and slot 4 had the 8800. The 8800 was powered using a cable from optical drive bay and 4890 was powered from the 2 6-pin cables.

Flashed card using the Hynix "mac modified.rom" from the roms.zip and also tried the "SAPPH_NE_HYNIX_EFIROMFX.rom" files from Peloche's post (Thanks btw for making the correct firmware :D). As far as I can tell, the card is flashed correctly, no errors were displayed. Is there a log file somewhere that records the status of flashing the card?

Unfortunately the result was the same as before - does not appear to boot. Because I was still plugged into the 8800 I could see why. I am getting a kernel panic shortly after the gray apple screen is displayed. It seems like when I install QE_CI, I get a kernel panic at the apple screen. Without it, the computer boots but the monitor stays at power save. Removing the 4890 allows the computer to boot normally.

Also, other than when I booted into bootcamp (much faster than the 8800 :cool:) I have not seen anything on the OS X side :(

So to sum up:
The card should be flashed.
Monitor goes to power save unless running Windows.
Without the QE_CI, the computer boots and with screen sharing I can boot into Windows at which point the monitor works.
Once QE_CI is installed the computer gets a kernel panic at the gray apple screen.

Any ideas on what to try next? Thanks :)
 
you dont need to power the 4890 to flash it.


what os version are you on?






jdhorner said:
So, I shut down, and booted into WinXP via bootcamp (just to verify that it works and everything) and it's all fine.

I shut down again, removed the X1900xt, and installed the 4890 in its place. Booted up with (option) held down, and nothing happened. (I was not prompted to select my startup volume)

I'm back in OS X on the X1900xt now. Am I supposed to do something in boot camp or using the injector/flash utility before I attempt using it via boot camp first?
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you have to set startup disk in OSX to windows, shut down and then swap cards and boot
 
post pic of your card


also dump rom of your card (while you assume it carries a mac modified), and upload and state what rom it should be.

so if its flashed the Hynix from rom pkg... you dump with gpu-z and say that it's Hynix from rom pkg...

i will check so the rom from card and the rom from pkg are identical... to rule out error in flashing.

also if you have original backup rom, post it

also post that system info in osx says about 4890 when you are inside screen sharing
 
Cindori said:
you have to set startup disk in OSX to windows, shut down and then swap cards and boot
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Cindori, I hope I'm not trying your patience. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help I've received so far. Since I believe you're not around when I get home in the evenings, I like to try and get as much information in advance as possible, so I don't make any mistakes.

If I do as above (set startup disk to Windows, shutdown, swap cards), I am supposed to do that without using -any- of your posted utilities, correct? (No injector, nothing. JUST the card swap)

Also, I noticed you mentioned that the card does not need to be powered in order to flash it. Does that mean I could ALSO (just in case the above method does not work for me) use my regular graphics card to boot into WinXP, leaving the new card installed in a different slot, but un-powered, and still use GPU-Z to dump the information you need? Or does GPU-Z only work on powered cards?

Again, I'm asking both those questions just to make sure I can get the original info you needed from GPU-Z, so that I can get everything working and send a donation your way. :D :D (and hopefully help anyone else who buys this particular card in the future)
 
This is the rom from the card which should be the sapphire new edition hynix rom. Unfortunately I did not save the original rom :(
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/RV790-hynix.bin

Screen shots of card and box:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/box2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/card2.jpg

Hardware info reported in OS X:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/display.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/pci.png

Screen shot from GPU-Z:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/gpuz.gif


Thanks

Cindori said:
post pic of your card


also dump rom of your card (while you assume it carries a mac modified), and upload and state what rom it should be.

so if its flashed the Hynix from rom pkg... you dump with gpu-z and say that it's Hynix from rom pkg...

i will check so the rom from card and the rom from pkg are identical... to rule out error in flashing.

also if you have original backup rom, post it

also post that system info in osx says about 4890 when you are inside screen sharing
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My card arrived today and it isn't the one they decried in the info on the store :/
They said it was the Sapphire 4890 21150-00-40R but its the newer version like HOM3R has, the 11150-11-20R

Ill dump the ROM later to see what original rom this card has.
 
H0M3R, so that is GPU-Z dump, after the card was flashed with hynix rom in ROMS.zip ??

because that rom you posted is not the same as hynix from ROMS.zip or SAPPH_NE_HYNIX_EFIROMFX.rom (those two are identical anyway).

which leads me to believe that the flashing is not done successfully and that you are still on your original PC rom.

are you using ati flashing tool 1.2?
do you get a flash completed message?
when you flash, does the Flasher.app pop up in dock? for 2 sec or 10 sec?


jdhorner: if you boot the mac with the x1900, and set Windows as startup disk, the Mac will basically function as a PC when you reboot.

So if you shut down and remove x1900 and insert 4890, it will boot straight into windows. Injector is just for OSX.

GPUZ might work without power to card. Try. If it doesn't, it'll simply not show up in the list.
 
Cindori said:
jdhorner: if you boot the mac with the x1900, and set Windows as startup disk, the Mac will basically function as a PC when you reboot.

So if you shut down and remove x1900 and insert 4890, it will boot straight into windows. Injector is just for OSX.

GPUZ might work without power to card. Try. If it doesn't, it'll simply not show up in the list.
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Great! I'll do it first thing after work.
Much appreciated. :D
 
H0M3R said:
This is the rom from the card which should be the sapphire new edition hynix rom. Unfortunately I did not save the original rom :(
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/RV790-hynix.bin

Screen shots of card and box:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/box2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/card2.jpg

Hardware info reported in OS X:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/display.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/pci.png

Screen shot from GPU-Z:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137795/ati4890/gpuz.gif


Thanks
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Hi ,

I have just the same card and I've flashed it with SAPPH_NE_HYNIX_EFIROMFX and it's working perfect (except the warning
about cables not being properly plugged in).I flashed it in DOS(on a pc) with atiflash commands .
I've checket your rom(thanks to Peloche and Cindori I've learned how to check) and it's different from all the other's I've collect in time:D.
So ,maybe it's not flashed correctly?
I'm late withe my post.Cindori already answered .
 
I really appreciate the help. :)

Correct, the ROM posted above was dumped after the card was flashed with the hynix ROM in the roms.zip.

I am using version 1.2 of the flashing tool and got a flash completed message and the flasher.app does appear in the dock. Could there be something running in OS X that would prevent flashing?

Maybe I should try flashing in DOS or Windows? Are there instructions posted about how to do this in DOS?

Thanks again.

Cindori said:
H0M3R, so that is GPU-Z dump, after the card was flashed with hynix rom in ROMS.zip ??

because that rom you posted is not the same as hynix from ROMS.zip or SAPPH_NE_HYNIX_EFIROMFX.rom (those two are identical anyway).

which leads me to believe that the flashing is not done successfully and that you are still on your original PC rom.

are you using ati flashing tool 1.2?
do you get a flash completed message?
when you flash, does the Flasher.app pop up in dock? for 2 sec or 10 sec?


jdhorner: if you boot the mac with the x1900, and set Windows as startup disk, the Mac will basically function as a PC when you reboot.

So if you shut down and remove x1900 and insert 4890, it will boot straight into windows. Injector is just for OSX.

GPUZ might work without power to card. Try. If it doesn't, it'll simply not show up in the list.
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Hi,

i read parts of this thread....great! ;-)

My Mac Pro (early2009) has a original 4870. But for gaming under Bootcamp-Vista it´s a little too slow (@Full HD resolution).

I was thinking of buying the 285GTX, but the price is just not acceptable.

The 4890 seems like a fine compromise. ;-)

Please give me a little help with my (remaining) questions:

1) If the flashing works, the 4890 will work with MacOSX 10.6.2 without any setbacks (panics, missing features in OSX etc.)?

2) Which card should i get? I only took "compatible" vendors...
a. PowerColor Radeon HD 4890 Plus, 1024MB GDDR5, 2x DVI, TV-out, PCIe 2.0 (A79F-TI3A), Chiptakt: 900MHz, Speichertakt: 1000MHz, 152EUR
b.PowerColor Radeon HD 4890 PCS+, 1024MB GDDR5, 2x DVI, TV-out, PCIe 2.0 (R79FA-ZI3), Chiptakt: 950MHz, Speichertakt: 1050MHz, 162EUR
c. HIS Radeon HD 4890 Turbo, 1024MB GDDR5, 2x DVI, TV-out, PCIe 2.0 (H489FT1GP), Chiptakt: 900MHz, Speichertakt: 1000MHz, 179EUR
d. Sapphire Toxic Radeon HD 4890 GameStar Edition, 1024MB GDDR5, 2x DVI, TV-out, PCIe 2.0, full retail (11150-07-50R), Chiptakt: 960MHz, Speichertakt: 1050MHz, 193EUR

Thanks for your help & thx to cindori for the great tool!
 
H0M3R said:
I really appreciate the help. :)

Correct, the ROM posted above was dumped after the card was flashed with the hynix ROM in the roms.zip.

I am using version 1.2 of the flashing tool and got a flash completed message and the flasher.app does appear in the dock. Could there be something running in OS X that would prevent flashing?

Maybe I should try flashing in DOS or Windows? Are there instructions posted about how to do this in DOS?

Thanks again.
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To flash it in DOS i have make a ubcd(ultimate boot cd) with a custom folder that contain your rom and the ATIflash utility that's help you put the rom on your card.Here some links:
ubcd
ATIflash
However you will need windows to make your custom ubcd.
Use the utility that came with ubcd (ubcd2iso) to make it bootable.
Here
the guide how to.
Good luck!
 
@ Wolfstrudel

once flashed, you need qe_ci every OSX update:
quoted from the app:

"Quartz Extreme and Core Image is needed for many graphic effects and optimizations in OSX.

If you are using an excotic card like the 4890, your device ID does not exist in OSX by default. This means you won't get Quartz Extreme or Core Image acceleration.

To patch your OS with the new device ID's, simply select your operative system and click Install. Follow the instructions and reboot.

The patch is overwritten when you perform an update of your OS, so you will need to patch again. Sometimes you need a new version of the patch. If your OS version is not listed, download a new version of ATI Flashing Tool, or check the links under the About section."

latest version of ati flashing tool downloads these patches automatically

i also suggest any of the powercolors


H0M3R: yes, try that

guide:
http://web.me.com/jacobcroft/4870Flash/4870Flash.html

use hynix rom ofc
 
I tried out the Sapphire 4890 new edition like the one H0M3R has, and I have the same problem trying to boot in Mac OS with Natit installed. Same black screen.

Its not the card I ordered so I will return it and get them to send me the right one, or one with 2 DVI ports.
There are loads of the XFX 4870's around. I might get one of those.

Hopefully I can try flashing the right card next week :)
 

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