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Hey all, sorry I have been absent. Much afoot recently in Tinseltown. Right now I am getting buzzed violently by a swarm of Helicopters at Oscars which is like 3 blocks from me.

Anyhow, I was reading the EBay 4890 ad that Netkas noticed and I read something I could test. It stated that ALL 4890s have an issue running a 30" Display while running a 24" display. It also stated that if only the 4890 was connected, the problem would go away.

I went ahead and tried this with the MSI 4890 I have here. Sure enough, horizontal tearing on 30" while 24" was connected, went away if I removed DVI plug from 24" Dell.

Can anyone else with a 4890, 30" and another display on 2nd DVI confirm or deny this? I tried with my trusty old XFX4870 and there was no tearing.

Curious if there is a 4890 that is exempt from this behavior, as the XFX 4870s were exempt from 2nd display issues in Leopard.


Does this apply to multiple displays that are sub-30"? My new Pro should be here in the next few days, I'd hate to be restricted to a single 23" instead of two.
 
Hey all, sorry I have been absent. Much afoot recently in Tinseltown. Right now I am getting buzzed violently by a swarm of Helicopters at Oscars which is like 3 blocks from me.

Anyhow, I was reading the EBay 4890 ad that Netkas noticed and I read something I could test. It stated that ALL 4890s have an issue running a 30" Display while running a 24" display. It also stated that if only the 4890 was connected, the problem would go away.

I went ahead and tried this with the MSI 4890 I have here. Sure enough, horizontal tearing on 30" while 24" was connected, went away if I removed DVI plug from 24" Dell.

Can anyone else with a 4890, 30" and another display on 2nd DVI confirm or deny this? I tried with my trusty old XFX4870 and there was no tearing.

Curious if there is a 4890 that is exempt from this behavior, as the XFX 4870s were exempt from 2nd display issues in Leopard.

I have the same problem on Mac Pro model 3.1, Cinema 30" and Cinema 20"
4890 Saphire new edition, now I running 30" on 4890 and 20" on xt2600 (no horizontal tearing now)
 
This is the problem I was contacting you and Cindori about originally after I flashed my HIS 4890. I never solved the problem, and have been running both the Mac Edition 4870 and the HIS 4890 together to use all my screens without having to deal with tearing (works out alright because I have three monitors and need two GPU's anyways).

I can run two monitors together on the 4890 without tearing so long as one of those two monitors is not my Apple 30". If I run the 30" by itself on the 4890 there's no tearing, but the moment I plug a second monitor - my 20" or my Wacom Cintiq - there's the familiar screen tearing.

Hey all, sorry I have been absent. Much afoot recently in Tinseltown. Right now I am getting buzzed violently by a swarm of Helicopters at Oscars which is like 3 blocks from me.

Anyhow, I was reading the EBay 4890 ad that Netkas noticed and I read something I could test. It stated that ALL 4890s have an issue running a 30" Display while running a 24" display. It also stated that if only the 4890 was connected, the problem would go away.

I went ahead and tried this with the MSI 4890 I have here. Sure enough, horizontal tearing on 30" while 24" was connected, went away if I removed DVI plug from 24" Dell.

Can anyone else with a 4890, 30" and another display on 2nd DVI confirm or deny this? I tried with my trusty old XFX4870 and there was no tearing.

Curious if there is a 4890 that is exempt from this behavior, as the XFX 4870s were exempt from 2nd display issues in Leopard.
 
I tried to make a copy using the windows tool that it reffed to, but I got an error. This means the card is likely done for right?

Cindori, I have a new XFX 4890 that I am going to be flashing once your new tool arrives. But before that I do want to make a backup of the ROM so I dont run into the last issue I had (killing the card). On the last card I did try to make a backup of the ROM but received an error saying that it was not possible with my card. Is this seen on any other cards? I have not tested with my new card (to busy playing BC2 with 5770 (i think)), just wondering your thoughts. Again, thanks for all the help.
 
...on post# 2199, p80

Cindori-
On post 2199, page 80, you created a rom for a Xfx 4890 ZDFC. Which is the card model that will arrive for me tomorrow. Will that rom most likely work with your/our new Flash tool? The card just arrived: version 5.3 on the sticker.
 
No Apple Screen at startup

Ok so I purchased this card which came today:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002K9ITCU/ref=oss_product

and the cables from the ATI website.

I tried to install the ATI card next to my Nvidia 7300 but I got a kernel panic during startup.

So I removed the card, ran the injector tool, reinstalled the card, booted up and flashed the card. Everything seems fine except that I don't get the Apple boot screen now at startup.

I removed injector using the software, and checked to see if the ATY_INIT.kext and Natit.kext files were still hanging around and they are gone. Any reason why I'm still not getting the Apple screen on startup?
 
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Ok so I purchased this card which came today:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002K9ITCU/ref=oss_product

and the cables from the ATI website.

I tried to install the ATI card next to my Nvidia 7300 but I got a kernel panic during startup.

So I removed the card, ran the injector tool, reinstalled the card, booted up and flashed the card. Everything seems fine except that I don't get the Apple boot screen now at startup.

I removed injector using the software, and checked to see if the ATY_INIT.kext and Natit.kext files were still hanging around and they are gone. Any reason why I'm still not getting the Apple screen on startup?

Wait for the Cindori's new flash tool. Also, didn't Cindori say to not use natit?
 
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So I removed the card, ran the injector tool, reinstalled the card, booted up and flashed the card. Everything seems fine except that I don't get the Apple boot screen now at startup.

Any reason why I'm still not getting the Apple screen on startup?

Are you going to tell us which ROM you flashed it with or should we guess?
 
Sorry:

I installed the ROM listed for the card in the zip file that was provided:

4870>XFX ZWFL&ZWFC

I don't suppose you dumped the ROM it started with?

What is odd is that usually if there is an EFI that matches device id you should at least get SOMETHING.

Can you boot from 7300 to see what Mac says about 4870 in another slot?

If it KPs, try to do a Safe Boot.




Rominator my man, any chance you could take a look at this seemingly-evil 4870 ROM?

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9370198/

Is there anything particularly odious about it or is it just a standard ROM? ie...have you tried and failed in some way? Would rather not duplicate any work already done.
 
I don't suppose you dumped the ROM it started with?

What is odd is that usually if there is an EFI that matches device id you should at least get SOMETHING.

Can you boot from 7300 to see what Mac says about 4870 in another slot?

If it KPs, try to do a Safe Boot

Just to be clear the 4870 is working, I just have a blank screen at startup (no apple logo) but once the OS loads I can see the desktop at the correct resolution.

I figured this was because of installing injector at the beginning and for some reason I can't uninstall it.
 
Just to be clear the 4870 is working, I just have a blank screen at startup (no apple logo) but once the OS loads I can see the desktop at the correct resolution.

I figured this was because of installing injector at the beginning and for some reason I can't uninstall it.

Can you post what it says in the Graphics section of system profiler?
 
Can you post what it says in the Graphics section of system profiler?

ATI Radeon HD 4870:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4870
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9440
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B7710C-176
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.318
Displays:
HP LP3065:
Resolution: 2560 x 1600
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected
 
Cindori took a look at it, said he'd never seen anything like it :eek:

Indeed, hanging out 2000 or so bytes after the PC ROM is this little snippet:

44 4A 48 05 EE 02 10 0E 32 00 20 03 32 00 20 03
01 45 41 48 34 38 37 30 00 45 50 55 01 FA 00 C2
01 B3 04 94 0C 90 17 00 58 8A 02 00 00 74 FF FF

The ASCII version:

DJHÓ2 2 EAH4870EPU˙¬≥îêXätˇˇ

Some sort of model identifier. Took up enough space to require reworking the rest of ROM to fit EFI in.

Anyhow, give this a shot.
 

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ATI Radeon HD 4870:

Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4870
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
Slot: Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x9440
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-B7710C-176
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.318
Displays:
HP LP3065:
Resolution: 2560 x 1600
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Rotation: Supported
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

DO you have something other than the 30" to try with?

Is very odd that there is no boot screen., as that all looks right. DO you get the "Power Cable" message?
 
Indeed, hanging out 2000 or so bytes after the PC ROM is this little snippet:

44 4A 48 05 EE 02 10 0E 32 00 20 03 32 00 20 03
01 45 41 48 34 38 37 30 00 45 50 55 01 FA 00 C2
01 B3 04 94 0C 90 17 00 58 8A 02 00 00 74 FF FF

The ASCII version:

DJHÓ2 2 EAH4870EPU˙¬≥îêXätˇˇ

Some sort of model identifier. Took up enough space to require reworking the rest of ROM to fit EFI in.

Anyhow, give this a shot.

Thanks man!
 
DO you have something other than the 30" to try with?

Just tried booting with my 32" LCD TV which has single link DVI and I got the Apple screen. Maybe it's a dual link DVI problem?

I can also boot from the install disk. I thought there was mention that having injector installed would not allow you to do this I guess it was uninstalled completely.

Is very odd that there is no boot screen., as that all looks right. DO you get the "Power Cable" message?


-I DO get the power cable message.

-Also, I just discovered that that if the computer goes to sleep I can't get the display to wake up again without a restart. Any ideas?

-FYI it's installed in a MacPro1,1

Anyway, I appreciate the help so far. Thanks!
 
I have read through this thread and it seems like there is alot to do to flash a standard card. Is it worth going this rout over one of the mac version of the 4870 or gtx 285? What are the risks involved in going the "flash" route?
 
I have read through this thread and it seems like there is alot to do to flash a standard card. Is it worth going this rout over one of the mac version of the 4870 or gtx 285? What are the risks involved in going the "flash" route?

It's a pretty simple process, actually. In my case, I booted with a 7300 GT in as well (this was with Cindori's old flashing tool), selected the ROM I needed, flashed the card, rebooted, then installed the QE/CI patch, and I was done. Risks? Very few if you think before you act and ask questions.
 
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