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Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps

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gank41 said:
Teams crashes on Launch for me, regardless of whether I tic the box to have it run using Rosetta 2 or not (Universal). I've tried using apps to completely remove it (CleanMyMac X & TrashMe 3), rebooted, and reinstalled. Still crashes at launch.
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Boot into recovery and use the menu items and repair permissions in your install then reboot and try it agin!
 
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rmgbenschop said:
@MrGunny94 Do you know if that build is the same build that will be in production?

I did try a lot of preview builds but all weren't really usable due to a couple of nasty bugs.
If this is the golden image so to speak, I would definitely try it again.
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This one is the best again, it kinda is sort of 'Golden image' the only bug I found was a grey rectangle on top of the 'Focused Content' during a call
 
Splashtop Business App is now universal and the Splashtop Streamer is to be released as universal soon....

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EDIT - Splashtop Streamer is now Universal
 
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bbbc said:
How are you pinning your dock to the bottom left on Apple silicon? I read that defaults write com.apple.dock pinning end;killall Dock no longer works from Big Sur on.

I'm also trying to find a means to make the dock completely transparent like in the old OS X days, with the TransparentDock utility.
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I don't do anything, I just went to dock settings in preferences and selected dock on left, that's all! :) I didn't do anything else aside of adjusting size and making it hid when not in used.

And yes, a lot of stuff from good old days, doesn't work, you could force Mail before to show attachments as icons only with a terminal command, doesn't work any more. I don't think fully transparent dock is possible in Monterey and above.
 
I am new to the M1 Apple Silicon world but am now on a Mac Studio. I did a complete refresh to ensure I started on the right foot with AS/Universal applications, and I have the Silicon app installed to see which Intel-Only Apps still need to be updated.

The list is long - mainly smaller utilities or HW-specific apps... Should I expect an update to, for instance, Audacity to show up suddenly, or would I have to actively find an AS version and install it? I use MacUpdater to keep my apps updated.
 
Killerbob said:
I am new to the M1 Apple Silicon world but am now on a Mac Studio. I did a complete refresh to ensure I started on the right foot with AS/Universal applications, and I have the Silicon app installed to see which Intel-Only Apps still need to be updated.

The list is long - mainly smaller utilities or HW-specific apps... Should I expect an update to, for instance, Audacity to show up suddenly, or would I have to actively find an AS version and install it? I use MacUpdater to keep my apps updated.
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Who knows. I think Apple encourages developers to publish one Universal app, so presumably when something goes from Intel-only to Universal, its normal update mechanism would roll out that update...

... that being said, there are a number of software developers who publish separate ARM vs Intel versions, e.g. SecureCRT, raindrop.io, Spotify, VLC, etc. (Those are the ones I remember on my M1 Max machine) I wonder if MacUpdater would alert you to the existence of a separate ARM version if you have the Intel version... but otherwise I would expect you'd have to manually grab the ARM version.

(Note that there are some developers who "pretend" to give you an ARM-only version but in reality they publish a Universal version for ARM and an Intel-only version otherwise. Same issue with those, I would presume the Intel versions won't update to the Universal one unless they abandon the Intel-only version. I thought Chrome/Firefox were in that category but the versions on my Intel Macs are Universal. Zoom might be one...)
 
Wait a minute, are you saying that the Universal versions on my Mac are not optimized for Apple Silicon?
 
Killerbob said:
Wait a minute, are you saying that the Universal versions on my Mac are not optimized for Apple Silicon?
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Intel Apps - Intel only and need rosetta to run, therefore not optimised
Apple Silicon Apps - Apple Silicon only and optimised
Universal Apps - contain both the Intel executable and the Apple Silicon executable so that they can run natively on both types of processor and are therefore optimised
 
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MrGunny94 said:
For sure, just look at What's App running under Rosetta 2..
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The one that is really pissing me off is Authy running under Rosetta 2. Over 600 megs of RAM for an app that, if it wasn't Electron, could probably be implemented in a few megs. Unlike Teams or even WhatsApp, it's not exactly something very complicated. And the Windows version is... only 53 megs, or so it claims, that seems oddly low for Electron?

(Honestly, I was young and naive when I adopted that thing - didn't realize that 'oh, they have apps for Windows/Mac/Linux' didn't mean what I assumed it did...)
 
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VivienM said:
The one that is really pissing me off is Authy running under Rosetta 2. Over 600 megs of RAM for an app that, if it wasn't Electron, could probably be implemented in a few megs. Unlike Teams or even WhatsApp, it's not exactly something very complicated. And the Windows version is... only 53 megs, or so it claims, that seems oddly low for Electron?

(Honestly, I was young and naive when I adopted that thing - didn't realize that 'oh, they have apps for Windows/Mac/Linux' didn't mean what I assumed it did...)
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Yeah electron is **** lol, the difference with native catalyst whatsapp compared to electron whatsapp is insane, went from 1-2gb on electron to about 200mb of ram usage on native
 
Native whatsapp broke for me, I'm now unable to log in at all so I've had to go back to the electron app, it's genuinely worse than I remember
 
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