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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

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Thanks for the info everyone. I upgraded a Late 2013 15” MacBook Pro on Boot ROM 430.0.0.0.0 with a 2 TB P2 and a long blue Sintech from this upgrade kit. However, I’m only getting x2 link width and around 700 MB/s read and write. I reset NVRAM once, but didn’t apply any tape as I’m not sure where it would be needed (it seemed to have some already near the outer pins). Everything else seems fine, with a fresh install of 10.15.7. Any ideas? Should I try a short adapter or the long one that doesn’t come in a kit?
 
FF89 said:
Actually, there is a way to unload/uninstall these kext. You can refer the same way as uninstalling SsdPmEnabler (https://github.com/kvic-z/SsdPmEnabler), but it must be done by running your MBP in safe mode (At least, that is the way I managed to unload/uninstall these kext before after seeing no changes in current level using these kext. Hopefully, there is much simpler way if anyone here can help). SsdPmEnabler works fine on its own, maybe because I used Crucial P2.

If you manage to unload/uninstall them, and the hibernation issue still occur, at least we may exclude the possibility of these kexts are the culprit.
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simple enough

Code: 
cd /Library/Extensions
 sudo rm -rf SsdPmEnabler.kext
 sudo rm -rf Lilu.kext
 sudo rm -rf NVMeFix.kext
 sudo kextcache -i /
 sudo reboot

recovery not needed unless you want to reenable CSR
 
papadave66 said:
Code: 
papadaveMBP:~ papadave$ kextstat | grep -v com.apple
Index Refs Address            Size       Wired      Name (Version) UUID <Linked Against>
papadaveMBP:~ papadave$ grep -V
grep (BSD grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD
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This means you don't have any non Apple kexts loaded(Installed and operational).
 
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Thanks for the info everyone. I upgraded a Late 2013 15” MacBook Pro on Boot ROM 430.0.0.0.0 with a 2 TB P2 and a long blue Sintech from this upgrade kit. However, I’m only getting x2 link width and around 700 MB/s read and write. I reset NVRAM once, but didn’t apply any tape as I’m not sure where it would be needed (it seemed to have some already near the outer pins). Everything else seems fine, with a fresh install of 10.15.7. Any ideas? Should I try a short adapter or the long one that doesn’t come in a kit?
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I have two Late 2013 15" MacBook Pro's that I've upgraded to a Crucial P2 1TB SSD using the short Sintech adapter. Is your Mac a MacBookPro11,3 like mine? I've had no issues at all. Both Macs were running High Sierra prior to the upgrade. I installed the new SSD/Sintech and then formatted the P2 to APFS, then installed Mojave from a USB stick. Finally loaded back my data using Time Machine (slow but effective as it only copies back data and applications - no system files). I used Winclone to copy back my Bootcamp Windows 10 partition, apps and data - worked like a charm too!

As others have reported the new security patches in Mojave and all future supported OSX versions now will update the Boot ROM firmware to the latest version (430.0.0.0.0 for my Macs).

I skipped Catalina as it's no longer fully supported by Apple and Office 365 updates require at least Mojave now.

My P2 read/writes are in the 1350-1400 MB/s range.

Hope this helps!
 
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BootROM on MBP11,3 is at 156.0.0.0.0 and the OEM blade has been replaced with NVMe/Sintech adapter. There is no simple or workaround way to get the BootROM updated, correct?
 
Is there a step-by-step anywhere of the best procedure to backup the old SSD prior to removal, then restore everything, including OS installation onto the new drive afterwards, please?

Ideally for Big Sur.
 
pacificoast said:
I have two Late 2013 15" MacBook Pro's that I've upgraded to a Crucial P2 1TB SSD using the short Sintech adapter. Is your Mac a MacBookPro11,3 like mine? I've had no issues at all. Both Macs were running High Sierra prior to the upgrade. I installed the new SSD/Sintech and then formatted the P2 to APFS, then installed Mojave from a USB stick. Finally loaded back my data using Time Machine (slow but effective as it only copies back data and applications - no system files). I used Winclone to copy back my Bootcamp Windows 10 partition, apps and data - worked like a charm too!

As others have reported the new security patches in Mojave and all future supported OSX versions now will update the Boot ROM firmware to the latest version (430.0.0.0.0 for my Macs).

I skipped Catalina as it's no longer fully supported by Apple and Office 365 updates require at least Mojave now.

My P2 read/writes are in the 1350-1400 MB/s range.

Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info about your setup and speeds. Yes, mine’s an 11,3. I had Mojave and Catalina both installed on the original drive. Strangely, I couldn’t get Big Sur to install on any external drives, so I installed a fresh copy of Catalina to the P2 while it was in an external enclosure and copied the files I wanted to it. Eventually I’ll clone a backup before trying to upgrade it to Big Sur now that it’s internal.

Sounds like the only differences between mine and yours are the size of the drive and the type of Sintech adapter. Maybe I’ll get a short one to try, and see if it helps.
 
How do you/is it even possible yet to do this on a Mac which is already upgraded to Big Sur?

I ask because reading documentation from CCC/SuperDuper it seems there are issues with either of them working with bootable backups/clones in Big Sur.

Has anyone been there and done this yet, if so would you be kind enough to detail how you did it, please?
 

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I'm still mostly on Catalina, but initial testing with Big Sur seems that it might be helpful to have a generic bootable "clean" install of Big Sur setup on a spare SATA drive if you're looking for a true backup/restoration approach. Worst case scenario, it's overboard and you have a spare bootable drive for troubleshooting.

If you don't have any lying around, you can find a 2.5" ~250GB SATA SSD with USB enclosure for $35-40. Probably $25 total if you're looking at ~120GB sizes.
 
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bsbeamer said:

Frequently asked questions about CCC and macOS 11 | Bombich Software

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I'm still mostly on Catalina, but initial testing with Big Sur seems that it might be helpful to have a generic bootable "clean" install of Big Sur setup on a spare SATA drive if you're looking for a true backup/restoration approach. Worst case scenario, it's overboard and you have a spare bootable drive for troubleshooting.

If you don't have any lying around, you can find a 2.5" ~250GB SATA SSD with USB enclosure for $35-40. Probably $25 total if you're looking at ~120GB sizes.
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Thanks.

So, if I understand correctly for Big Sur currently it's probably safest to:

1. Create a backup of user data/documents (the data partition) using CCC, Time Machine, or similar (I own ChronoSync, don't know if this will work?)
2. Create a bootable OS install disk by downloading a standalone Big Sur installer and then using "createinstallmedia" under Terminal: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201372
3. Remove the original SSD from the MBP
4. Install the new SSD into the MBP
5. Install the OS onto the new internal SSD from the bootable media created in step 2.
6. Reinstall user-data/apps, etc. from the backup created in step 1.

Have I missed anything, or is there an easier/more obvious way to do any of those?

Does the bootable OS drive you create for this have to be on an SSD, or will a spare HDD do?
 
Ektachrome said:
Does the bootable OS drive you create for this have to be on an SSD, or will a spare HDD do?
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Personally have ran into issues with HDDs and APFS in the past. The Big Sur "revision" to APFS and the method does not help at all.

That being said, I'm sure an HDD could work. If you're going that route, make sure there is only one partition on the drive to avoid unnecessary headaches. Format GUID HFS+ if at all possible within Disk Utility before the clone, then let CCC take care of the APFS reformat and everything else. It will create the containers/volumes necessary.
 
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bsbeamer said:
If you don't have any lying around, you can find a 2.5" ~250GB SATA SSD with USB enclosure for $35-40. Probably $25 total if you're looking at ~120GB sizes.
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Is it still worth using an external SSD given that my late 2013 MBP is USB 3.0, or should I look for a Thunderbolt 2, or Firewire enclosure, which I could use with my FW-TB adapter? Alternatively, are any of the latest USB-C enclosures compatible with my Thunderbolt 2 ports? Sorry, not kept up to date with this stuff in recent years!

I think I'm very likely to just use this to create a bootable OS media disk just to do a clean install of the OS onto the new internal SSD, so maybe it doesn't have to be blistering fast just for that one purpose...?
 
I've updated my MacBook Się Early 2015 with Crucial P5 1TB and have wakeup issue, applied command in Terminal, wakeups ok, but there is no way to enter password, it shows bussy icon but restarts the laptop after showing err screen.
 
Ektachrome said:
Is it still worth using an external SSD given that my late 2013 MBP is USB 3.0, or should I look for a Thunderbolt 2, or Firewire enclosure, which I could use with my FW-TB adapter? Alternatively, are any of the latest USB-C enclosures compatible with my Thunderbolt 2 ports? Sorry, not kept up to date with this stuff in recent years!

I think I'm very likely to just use this to create a bootable OS media disk just to do a clean install of the OS onto the new internal SSD, so maybe it doesn't have to be blistering fast just for that one purpose...?
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You’re at ~450-500MB/s with SATA SSD via USB3. Plenty fast enough for this usage. Max of most is top at ~550MB/s anyway.
 
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Got a kernal panics everytime when my macbook idle and then sleep ( for a few minutes )

Screen Shot 2021-03-20 at 22.17.37.png

Any idea or any miss config ?

MBP 2015 13"
BootROM 426
MacOS Catalina
Lilu 1.5.1
NVMEFix 1.0.5
SsdPmEnabler 0.1.1
 
Has anyone tried any of the 4TB drives yet?

I'm considering just going the whole hog while I'm doing this... However, I was happy with the look of the Crucial P2 range in terms of power consumption/battery efficiency, etc...

Would, e.g., Corsair MP400 or MP510 be significantly worse than this, or have any other known issues?
 
Hello everyone!

I got my first macbook (been long time user of iphone but never a mac computer), macbook air 11“ early 2015.

I found this thread looking to upgrade the 128GB hdd, and I can say is awesome all the information here.

My only suggestion for this to be the ultimate guide will be to merge/add:

- Step by step to create the bootable USB
- Step by step of the installation process (partition types, etc.)

But nevertheless is a great guide to select a new ssd! ;)

Here are my numbers:

Before
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After
Crucial P2 500GB
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Cheers!!
 
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saintmylife said:
Got a kernal panics everytime when my macbook idle and then sleep ( for a few minutes )

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Any idea or any miss config ?

MBP 2015 13"
BootROM 426
MacOS Catalina
Lilu 1.5.1
NVMEFix 1.0.5
SsdPmEnabler 0.1.1
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post the full text of the panics - see my previous messages where to find these on your Mac.

what drive/adapter are you using? How reproducible are the crashes?

if all else fails try to reinstall the SSD adaptor, after a clean with isopropyl and make sure your drive is fully seated. This seemed to fix my issues - I’ve not had a crash in weeks.

There is also a possibility of heat issues. e.g. the SSD drive gets hot possibly after heavy use and is slow to respond/rejects the macos read/write requests. Then the os could panic.
 
AstroZero said:
post the full text of the panics - see my previous messages where to find these on your Mac.

what drive/adapter are you using? How reproducible are the crashes?

if all else fails try to reinstall the SSD adaptor, after a clean with isopropyl and make sure your drive is fully seated. This seemed to fix my issues - I’ve not had a crash in weeks.

There is also a possibility of heat issues. e.g. the SSD drive gets hot possibly after heavy use and is slow to respond/rejects the macos read/write requests. Then the os could panic.
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Ups, sorry, cant post the wole crash, seems like have been cleaned by my cleanmacx.

Im use the sintech adapter on wd blue sn550 500gb.

Problems :
- if mac is idle for a period time ( until screen goes black, like sleep ) -> trying to wake -> display the question mark folder followed by kernel panic.
- When i choose sleep, it sleep first, and then restart

Trying to disable put hardisk to sleep when posible and power nap while on battery. No crash in a week ( except sleep).

Trying to reseated ssd, or ill comeback if had an kernel panic again. Thanks
 
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