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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
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I was booted into Grub Rescue mode, and I used `isolinux.cfg` in Grub commands. `linux (hd6)/boot/vmlinuz`, `initrd (hd6)/boot/crucialblah.gz`. And, crucially, I had to type arguments to `linux` stated in `APPEND`.
It's been 5 days since the upgrade, and the crashes have stopped.
Hi, thanks for all your interesting posts. I have just bought a 2TB Crucial P2.
Can you tell if it's QLC or TLC from the look of it?
• The SSD is one-sided, no components on the backside.
Noticable info on the sticker:
• 3.3V, 2.5A
• Firmware: P2CR033 (This is the recent firmware.)
• I have noticed that on some photos on the web the sticker shows 1.7A – what does that mean?
• The circuit board shows a lot less components than some of the photos online.
My SSD looks like the one here: https://www.storagereview.com/review/crucial-p2-nvme-ssd-review-2tb
It does not look like on the Amazon photo.
Can you tell if it's QLC or TLC from the look of it?
• The SSD is one-sided, no components on the backside.
Noticable info on the sticker:
• 3.3V, 2.5A
• Firmware: P2CR033 (This is the recent firmware.)
• I have noticed that on some photos on the web the sticker shows 1.7A – what does that mean?
• The circuit board shows a lot less components than some of the photos online.
My SSD looks like the one here: https://www.storagereview.com/review/crucial-p2-nvme-ssd-review-2tb
It does not look like on the Amazon photo.
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Well, so far my MP510 seems OK. I had one issue yesterday which may, or may not, have been a kernel panic. But it may have just been a Big Sur glitch or some other issue, so I wouldn't neccessarily say it was anything to do with the new SSD.
Just a question - could someone explain exactly what these 'Lilu' and 'ssdpmenabler' and 'kexts' are, and if they're any use to me with this particular SSD? Also if there are any implications to using them (security risk, etc.)? Many thanks.
Just a question - could someone explain exactly what these 'Lilu' and 'ssdpmenabler' and 'kexts' are, and if they're any use to me with this particular SSD? Also if there are any implications to using them (security risk, etc.)? Many thanks.
These kexts for decrease the consumption of your ssd so basically power saving options. The lilu is required for nvmefix and ssdpmenabler is a different kext. You can find all thread on github with tutorials also. I am also a beginner as you with these hacks but I don't think there are any security risk regarding using them. The description for installation was not contain proper informations for me, so I looked for another threads to find more detailed tutorials. The easiest way for me was the usage of hackintool to install them. And before anything you should disable SIP in recovery mode but they also mention that on github in the ssdpmenabler description. Good luck for you with the upgrade!
Hm, I think I might learn to live with slightly higher power consumption rather than disable SIP -
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What is SIP and when is it safe to turn it off?
System Integrity Protection can get in your way, and may be recommended to solve compatibility problems. It’s also changing again in Catalina.
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As a partly answer to my own question about the qualities of the Crucial P2 – as well as your question about the SsdPmEnabler, this Github thread here may be interesting:
Crucial P2 2TB SSD on MacBook Pro 15" (Mid 2014) A1398 · Issue #3 · kvic-z/SsdPmEnabler
@kvic-z, thanks for offering this great driver! I had discovered it at this meanwhile 8000+ posts long thread I now want to contribute my experience to your hardware database. Hardware & Software M...
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Did your Mac crash, freeze or panic?
How to tell apart unexpected quits, WindowServer crashes, kernel panics, and more – and what to do about them.
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Hi,
I have same model as you. I use NFHK adaptor and Sabrent Rocket 1 TB.
and follow your step. however it does not help. My battery drains 1-2% per hour in standby mode.
may i know your adaptor brand and SSD.
Could you guide me?
So you don’t have sintech branded adapter? I’m going to get same SSD as yours and yesterday I’ve installed brand new palmrest/trackpad/keyboard and battery on my late 2013 15” with still stock Apple 256gb ssd and new battery life is amazing, literally dropped to only 71% from 100% after 8h (yes!) of very light use (still calibrating new battery) so I’m kinda worrying Sabrent Rocket will drain my battery a lot
I guess its QLC. You can't see it on the label
There is some phison-software (http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/ ) which gives you the answer of your question by reading out firmware.
1.7A is the power consumption of the one with 1 TB.
2.5A is for the one with 2TB.
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Thanks for your reply. Hm, based on what is your guess?
“Phison flash id” requires Windows just to read out the controller. Running it in Wine didn't work.
As for the 1.7A or 2.5A: The Amazon photo shows the 2TB Crucial P2 with 1.7A.
And in this review you can see a 1TB with 2.5A. – Just the opposite.
Crucial P2 1TB PCIe Gen3 NVMe M.2 SSD Review
In our Crucial P2 1TB review, we see how this PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD fares compared to other M.2 drives we have tested, and the answer is not well
What storage did you use until the mp510?
I am not sure if Yosemite supports NMVE devices.
make sure to push big sur or Mojave on your Mac to update the bootrom, may be that can do the trick for you.
I had (have) the original
I have installed the big sur so the bootrom is up to date
Any other idea ?!
did have a Crucial P2 weeks ago and read out the firmware, its was a qlc too.Thanks for your reply. Hm, based on what is your guess?
“Phison flash id” requires Windows just to read out the controller. Running it in Wine didn't work.
As for the 1.7A or 2.5A: The Amazon photo shows the 2TB Crucial P2 with 1.7A.
And in this review you can see a 1TB with 2.5A. – Just the opposite.
Crucial P2 1TB PCIe Gen3 NVMe M.2 SSD Review
In our Crucial P2 1TB review, we see how this PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD fares compared to other M.2 drives we have tested, and the answer is not wellwww.servethehome.com
Do you think amazon uses different labels? I think they took one pic in the shop and photoshopped the others...
A picture is not part of a purchase agreement.
Crucial's behaviour is not ok, not being transparent to customers in any way, that is the big why because I sent it back .. my business case as a customer is not to play jeopardy... ,-)
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pram reset
repair with diskutil in the recovery mode
check if the mp510 is properly seated in the slot
The WikiPost here answers a lot of starter questions:
Upgrading 2013/2014 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
This thread is about upgrading MacBook Airs & Macbook Pros (2013-2015) with new high speed and/or high capacity NVMe SSDs. This thread was one of the first to talk about MacBook Pro NVMe SSD upgrades on Macrumors, and was started by user "maxthackray", which we can thank and give tribute for...
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I have installed the 2TB Crucial P2 finally.
So far I am impressed with the speed, which is double of the Apple SSD. Temperature is 40°C in 23°C room temperature. Apple Diagnosis has recognized the SSD (no problems found) and also SmartReporter. I can post details here, if somebody wants to know more.
The only problem at the moment is that I had planned to use Sierra on a 2nd partition. But the drive is not visible at all from the Sierra installer. (Boot-ROM-Version: 431.0.0.0.0)
I read through the WikiPost again and found this info:
“ •NVMe drives with 512b sectors don't work on macOS older than 10.13
• NVMe drives with 4K sector size (ex. : Sabrent Rocket) do work natively with macOS 10.12, of course you need to have your BootRom up to date before installation”
So I checked the sector size of all volumes with Terminal:
#!/bin/bash
for disk in /dev/disk*s*
do
diskutil info $disk
echo "**************************************************************************************"
echo " "
done
If I read the output correctly, the SSD uses 512 bytes sector size.
Disk Size: 2.0 TB (2000189177856 Bytes) (exactly 3906619488 512-Byte-Units)
Device Block Size: 4096 Bytes
Volume Total Space: 2.0 TB (2000189177856 Bytes) (exactly 3906619488 512-Byte-Units)
Volume Used Space: 25.2 GB (25211752448 Bytes) (exactly 49241704 512-Byte-Units) (1.3%)
Volume Free Space: 2.0 TB (1974977425408 Bytes) (exactly 3857377784 512-Byte-Units) (98.7%)
Allocation Block Size: 4096 Bytes
Is there a way to change that?
So far I am impressed with the speed, which is double of the Apple SSD. Temperature is 40°C in 23°C room temperature. Apple Diagnosis has recognized the SSD (no problems found) and also SmartReporter. I can post details here, if somebody wants to know more.
The only problem at the moment is that I had planned to use Sierra on a 2nd partition. But the drive is not visible at all from the Sierra installer. (Boot-ROM-Version: 431.0.0.0.0)
I read through the WikiPost again and found this info:
“ •NVMe drives with 512b sectors don't work on macOS older than 10.13
• NVMe drives with 4K sector size (ex. : Sabrent Rocket) do work natively with macOS 10.12, of course you need to have your BootRom up to date before installation”
So I checked the sector size of all volumes with Terminal:
#!/bin/bash
for disk in /dev/disk*s*
do
diskutil info $disk
echo "**************************************************************************************"
echo " "
done
If I read the output correctly, the SSD uses 512 bytes sector size.
Disk Size: 2.0 TB (2000189177856 Bytes) (exactly 3906619488 512-Byte-Units)
Device Block Size: 4096 Bytes
Volume Total Space: 2.0 TB (2000189177856 Bytes) (exactly 3906619488 512-Byte-Units)
Volume Used Space: 25.2 GB (25211752448 Bytes) (exactly 49241704 512-Byte-Units) (1.3%)
Volume Free Space: 2.0 TB (1974977425408 Bytes) (exactly 3857377784 512-Byte-Units) (98.7%)
Allocation Block Size: 4096 Bytes
Is there a way to change that?
A summary of my email exchange with Crucial Customer Support, is that after they confirmed several times that "Crucial P2 SSDs are based on TLC NAND flash", they finally stated:
Currently the P2 is primarily based on QLC NAND. However, different NAND technologies like TLC may be used depending on material availability.
We will not be able to get you a 2TB TLC P2 drive as it has never been produced.
Unfortunately previous comments, as the ones below, were ignored:
We encourage Micron to be more transparent about their controller and NAND choices and especially any post-launch changes.
Sending out faster TLC drives for review, then releasing versions with QLC under the same product name at a later date seems rather shifty.
The Crucial P2 is "designed" to use TLC NAND flash, and initially it did (I guess that all the third-party benchmarks has been conducted with the TLC versions, so the performance figures were very close as the advertised), but taking advantage of the clause "specifications are subject to change without notice" now uses QLC (N28A), as the output (trimmed) of a Phison's diag tool shows:
Model : CT2000P2SSD8
Fw : P2CR033
Size : 1907729 MB [2000.4 GB]
LBA Size: 512
...
F/W : EDFN70.0
P/N : 00000000
Bank00: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank01: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank02: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank03: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank04: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank05: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank06: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank07: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank08: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank09: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank10: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank11: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank12: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank13: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank14: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Bank15: 0x2c,0xd3,0x1c,0x32,0xc6,0x0,0x0,0x0 - Micron 96L(N28A) QLC 1024Gb/CE 1024Gb/die
Controller : PS5013-E13 [PS5013AA]
CPU Clk : 667
Flash CE : 16
Flash Channel : 4
Interleave : 4
Flash CE Mask : [++++++++ ++++++++ -------- --------]
Flash Clk,MT : 800
Block per CE : 1968
Page per Block: 4608
Bit Per Cell : 4(QLC)
PMIC Type : PS6103
PE Cycle Limit: 40000/1500
ParPage : 00
It's a real pity, when P2 (DRAMless + TLC) replaced P1 (DRAM cache + QLC), it made sense for several scenarios.
But the change to DRAMless + QLC looks like a "P0" or "P-2" (it looks like they are walking as a crab...backwards)
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I'm not sure if it may be related, latest Mojave update aka macOS 10.14.6 (18G9216) uses the same Boot ROM Version:431.0.0.0.0, but my SSD is working 3-4º C hotter than before install this update.
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I just bit the bullet & bought a brand new Apple 2TB Polaris for $899 on eBay & don't have a single problem plus I get Write speed of 1335Mbps & Read speed of 1375Mbps. It was pricey but I can afford it & I have none of the problems that others report. Temperature of the SSD was only 35C after some testing of performance with Black Magic Disk Speed Test.
Apple 2TB PCIe NVMe Flash Storage SSPOLARIS SSD - Mac Pro 6.1 Late 2013 A1481 | eBay
Due to the limitation of the PCIe 2.0 x4 link speed supported by the Mac Pro, its read/write peformance are similar or slightly better than your factory installed PCIe ACHI flash storage. B21 or later.
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