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Today I updated my MacBookAir6,1 with a Corsair MP510.
For now everything seems to be fine, Blackmagic reports speeds of ~1300MB/s (with the original I had around ~550MB/s). The fans seems to kick more often but maybe it's because I'm still syncing stuff.

What's the recommended software to decrease the ssd consumption? SsdPmEnabler?

For the interest of a wider audience, ssdpmEnabler support status on MBA6,1: KP with MacBookAir6,1 + Corsair MP510

Hey there, it's good not to be alone! After looking at the charts in the original post, Crucial P2 was easily the winner so I decided to go with it even it was slightly expensive than the HP EX900. If you can be patient for a few days, I will happily take the risk for both of us. If you want I can update you about my upgrade journey.

Personally I find this is the right attitude for all "newbies." Help yourself. Help others. I suggest every "newbie" who received help from this thread shall answer/help THREE other "newbies." Also don't be close-fisted on saying 'thank you' and giving out thumbs-up. I think this is the way to make this thread self-sustainable.

For the past 10 months, you saw "newbies" asked questions. Some got their answers and ran away. Gradually fewer and fewer "newbies" will get their calls heard. Realistically people should not expect there are 'gurus' sitting in this thread doing a low-wage job of providing technical support on S.S.D.s and whatnot. Prepare yourself and do some homework. I think people will get a better experience in engagement. :)
 
Hi,

Ensure you read all the info about the Crucial P2 in this thread before moving forward. As you may know, the "new" Crucial P2 is different from the one in the spreadsheets in post #1.
Thanks for this information. This thread is not the easiest to navigate for folks that aren't as tech savvy as some of the contributors on here. I appreciate your restraint in using more complex language.

As such, I had cancelled my order for a Crucial P2 and instead ordered the Corsair MP510. I initially decided on the P2, because it seemed like the perfect choice based on the charts on Page 1. Fast, cheap, and low power consumption. However, if all current P2's have the small cache that makes it as slow as my current stock 256GB drive, then it's not a good option for me.

From the beginning, the MP510 looked like a good choice, but on Page 1, it's listed in RED, and for whatever reason, that made me stay away.

If all goes well on my MBA 6,2, I'll probably end up doing my wife's MBP-2014 with the same upgrade too. I'll probably end up contributing my experiences onto this thread.

Thanks!
 
Personally I find this is the right attitude for all "newbies." Help yourself. Help others. I suggest every "newbie" who received help from this thread shall answer/help THREE other "newbies." Also don't be close-fisted on saying 'thank you' and giving out thumbs-up. I think this is the way to make this thread self-sustainable.

For the past 10 months, you saw "newbies" asked questions. Some got their answers and ran away. Gradually fewer and fewer "newbies" will get their calls heard. Realistically people should not expect there are 'gurus' sitting in this thread doing a low-wage job of providing technical support on S.S.D.s and whatnot. Prepare yourself and do some homework. I think people will get a better experience in engagement. :)
Thank you for your kind words, I cannot agree with you more. We must keep the retention so we do not make the same mistakes as the other guy who tried the same thing 2-3 months (maybe years) ago.
 
Thanks to this thread I’ve enjoyed a bigger SSD for a year now. Now I’m thinking of upgrading to a MBP 2017. I know some people have succesfully changed the SSDs on the 2017 MBP. Is there anything I need to be aware of? Is it as easy as the 2015 models?
 
I'm not in a hurry at the moment so that would be tremendously helpful! Thank you! And if anyone else has experience with a Win10 partition and the SSDs listed here for MacBookPro12,1 (which have already been tested with MacOS) it would be great to hear how they are running.
I upgraded to an ADATA XPG SX8200 1TB and was able to install BootCamp fine on both my mid 2013 Air and mid 2015 15" Pro. Note that this SSD is the non-Pro version. The page you linked to only lists the Pro version.

FYI I don't run SSDPmEnabler or any third party Kexts. I've found them to be more trouble than they're worth. My hibernate settings are also stock, no modifications. I had some issues with hibernate when I first did the upgrades a couple of years ago, but later versions of MacOS carried updated BootROMs and fixed them.
 
I upgraded to an ADATA XPG SX8200 1TB and was able to install BootCamp fine on both my mid 2013 Air and mid 2015 15" Pro. Note that this SSD is the non-Pro version. The page you linked to only lists the Pro version.

FYI I don't run SSDPmEnabler or any third party Kexts. I've found them to be more trouble than they're worth. My hibernate settings are also stock, no modifications. I had some issues with hibernate when I first did the upgrades a couple of years ago, but later versions of MacOS carried updated BootROMs and fixed them.
I'm glad to hear that and thank you very much for your answer! However, I think I'd rather not take any risks and just decide between the models tested with my MBP 12,1. More specifically, I'm deciding between a WD SN550 1TB (cheaper but, according to what I've seen, slower) and a "Dark Blue" Sabrent Rocket 1TB (more expensive and faster). Although I know that in this forum most of the comments about the Sabrent Rocket are positive and highlight its reliability, a few days ago I discovered this article that speaks very badly about this SSD and that's why I'm hesitating now. The more I investigate, the more doubts I have...
 
However, I think I'd rather not take any risks and just decide between the models tested with my MBP 12,1. More specifically, I'm deciding between a WD SN550 1TB (cheaper but, according to what I've seen, slower) and a "Dark Blue" Sabrent Rocket 1TB (more expensive and faster).

There are multiple ways to make use of the table (Confirmed Working Models) to pick a SSD most suitable for your need. For Mac laptops in this thread, personally I would rank SSDs by the "Idle (A)" column. That number indicates idle power consumption of the SSD with ssdpmEnabler installed. Lower the value in this column, the more power efficient the SSD is in general, both at idle and during read/write operations. You don't have to limit choices to the SSDs people have tested on your specific Mac model. The data for other Mac models are equally relevant and applicable in my opinion.

Note that without ssdpmEnabler, the idle power consumption in MacOS will be way higher for all SSD models. Since Windows 10 has much better NVMe compatibility than MacOS, I won't worry much about its incompatibility and other issues like idle power. The NVMe compatibility and high idle power were historically only the problem in MacOS.

So had I known WD SN550 1TB idling at 0.16A (with ssdpmEnabler installed i.e. power management enabled), would I still have bought it? Most likely not. Because my (or rather my family member's) usage scenario of the Mac laptop is most of the time on the roads. I would have gone with a Phison E12/E12s based SSD as they respond very well to ssdpmEnabler.

With that said, our SN550 1TB has been flawless and accumulated 12TB write (TBW) in the past 10 months. Also it's one (if not THE) of the lowest power consumption during read/write operations. Surprisingly, the 1TB model is also one of the highest performing models after fast cache runs out. At anytime (I meant ANY time) sequential write speed will be always higher than 800MB/s*.

All in all, I surely didn't regret. But had ssdpmEnabler and findings from its author (_cough_ yours truly) and many helpers from this thread available earlier, I would have made a different & better choice for our usage scenario.


*Recent reports say this is no longer true on refreshed/new SN550. Nevertheless, it isn't noticeable on a daily basis for most users if the number isn't terribly low, say, less than 150MB/s. If you're willing to gamble, I think the refreshed 2TB model should have retained the 800MB/s (or similar speed) after fast cache runs out.
 
I have a question: Is SK Hynix P31 Gold considerably better than Corsair MP510 or Sabrent Rocket in terms of power consumption?

I have been combing through this terrific thread for a while. I saw both Corsair MP510 and Sabrent Rocket are among the best in terms of power consumption. I also noticed more recently people had reported to make SK Hynix P31 Gold work with firmware update. But the spreadsheets on the first page don't include the test results of SK Hynix P31 Gold.

I'm considering SK Hynix P31 Gold for my MBA 6,2 that came with only 128 SSD, currently running macOS Big Sur. But I don't know how much it's better than other top contenders. Does anyone happen to have relevant experience? Thanks!
 
I've been digging through this great thread for a while too. Similarly, Corsair MP510, Sabrent Rocket and SK Hynix P31 Gold are candidates.
Question: Is it possible to update the firmware without Windows by inserting the download of the SK Hynix P31 Gold homepage (marked in the figure) into the USB of disk 2?

I'm not good at English. sorry.
thank you for reading.
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I've been digging through this great thread for a while too. Similarly, Corsair MP510, Sabrent Rocket and SK Hynix P31 Gold are candidates.
Question: Is it possible to update the firmware without Windows by inserting the download of the SK Hynix P31 Gold homepage (marked in the figure) into the USB of disk 2?

I'm not good at English. sorry.
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No, you cannot update the firmware with the SK Hynx in a USB enclosure. The disk must be installed inside your MB.

A few pages back, I remember reading a post where they use Windows to Go installed on a USB stick to update the firmware.
 
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There are multiple ways to make use of the table (Confirmed Working Models) to pick a SSD most suitable for your need. For Mac laptops in this thread, personally I would rank SSDs by the "Idle (A)" column. That number indicates idle power consumption of the SSD with ssdpmEnabler installed. Lower the value in this column, the more power efficient the SSD is in general, both at idle and during read/write operations. You don't have to limit choices to the SSDs people have tested on your specific Mac model. The data for other Mac models are equally relevant and applicable in my opinion.

Note that without ssdpmEnabler, the idle power consumption in MacOS will be way higher for all SSD models. Since Windows 10 has much better NVMe compatibility than MacOS, I won't worry much about its incompatibility and other issues like idle power. The NVMe compatibility and high idle power were historically only the problem in MacOS.

So had I known WD SN550 1TB idling at 0.16A (with ssdpmEnabler installed i.e. power management enabled), would I still have bought it? Most likely not. Because my (or rather my family member's) usage scenario of the Mac laptop is most of the time on the roads. I would have gone with a Phison E12/E12s based SSD as they respond very well to ssdpmEnabler.

With that said, our SN550 1TB has been flawless and accumulated 12TB write (TBW) in the past 10 months. Also it's one (if not THE) of the lowest power consumption during read/write operations. Surprisingly, the 1TB model is also one of the highest performing models after fast cache runs out. At anytime (I meant ANY time) sequential write speed will be always higher than 800MB/s*.

All in all, I surely didn't regret. But had ssdpmEnabler and findings from its author (_cough_ yours truly) and many helpers from this thread available earlier, I would have made a different & better choice for our usage scenario.


*Recent reports say this is no longer true on refreshed/new SN550. Nevertheless, it isn't noticeable on a daily basis for most users if the number isn't terribly low, say, less than 150MB/s. If you're willing to gamble, I think the refreshed 2TB model should have retained the 800MB/s (or similar speed) after fast cache runs out.
Hello kvic,

thank you very much for your lengthy and detailed reply, I have read quite a few of your posts and drawn the following final conclusions (yes, hopefully final ;):

- The WD Blue SN550 has been a good deal for you, but its problem is that it wastes more battery than other SSDs like the Phison E12/E12s based ones but... is it really something noticeable??? According to this post you wrote, an idle of 0.26A causes an extra 4% battery drain over 10 hours. So I'm wondering if it's really worth paying 50€ more (in my case) for a Seagate Barracuda 510 1TB just to get an idle of 0.05A (using just your great kext). In my case, I normally use the MB in my room...

- On the other hand the speed of the SN550 is apparently already pretty good out of the box, so opting for an SSD like, again, a Seagate Barracuda 510 1TB really makes a difference? Keep in mind that I usually run "demanding" programmes such as Matlab, Solidworks, Ansis, Catia, etc and I have 16gb of RAM if that helps somehow...


Anyway, I apologise if I am being persistent and a complete newbie, I know that I will have to make the decision for myself and I don't expect anyone else to decide for me. (Just to make sure hehe :) )

With all this I again thank all the people who contribute to this forum, once I finally decide on an SSD I will not hesitate to return the favour whenever possible.
 
No, you cannot update the firmware with the SK Hynx in a USB enclosure. The disk must be installed inside your MB.

A few pages back, I remember reading a post where they use Windows to Go installed on a USB stick to update the firmware.
Thank you for your quick reply.
I didn't know if I had to use Windows to Go or if there was another way.
Looking at # 9307, I'm worried whether Sabrent Rocket should be excluded from the candidates.

But thanks to everyone in the thread here, I decided to change my MBP 11.4 SSD. I plan to choose MP510 or P31 Gold.
I hope P31 Gold can be purchased in Japan at a price that is not too high.

Thank you so much !!
 
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Hello everyone. I'm sorry to continue posting.
I'm confused by the price of SSDs in my country. This is because there is a big difference from the prices seen in Amazon US and EU. So there is a big difference in the cost performance of the wiki on the first page.
ADATA may come first on the list when considering buying a 2TB SSD in my country. The price of SK hynix is especially desperate:eek:

I'm confused because I think too much. Which would you like to buy?
I'm using MacBook Pro 2015 Mid (11.4).
I would be happy if you could enter a short sentence and tell me. thank you!
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- The WD Blue SN550 has been a good deal for you, but its problem is that it wastes more battery than other SSDs like the Phison E12/E12s based ones but... is it really something noticeable??? According to this post you wrote, an idle of 0.26A causes an extra 4% battery drain over 10 hours. So I'm wondering if it's really worth paying 50€ more (in my case) for a Seagate Barracuda 510 1TB just to get an idle of 0.05A (using just your great kext). In my case, I normally use the MB in my room...

If your MBP has access to AC whenever you need or you plug your MBP into AC most of the time, idle power shouldn't be much a concern. @macpro_mid2014 chose to go with SN550 1TB recently because of this usage scenario. The yardstick for ideal idle power was set by original Apple SSDs which managed to achieve near 0A (still desirable for ppl on battery most of the time).

To sweeten the deal of SN550 a bit, assume idle power consumption = 0.16A (with ssdpmEnabler), I found (couldn't remember the exact crossing point) around 30/70 split (or higher active level) between active/idle, SN550 ends up THE most power efficient SSD among the few models I picked for comparison. I forgot all the contestants but surely included "dark blue" Sabrent and Seagate Barracuda. LOL*

30/70 split isn't normal for average laptop users though. I believe average users are about 5/95 split which means 95% of the time their SSDs are idle. If you're a productive type of users, perhaps you would be closer to 30/70 split!

EDIT:

* I should add that: it's back of the envelope calculation. So take it with a grain of salt. But given all the contestants will be bandwidth limited on MBP12,1, my calculation won't be far off from reality. :)

I'm confused because I think too much. Which would you like to buy?
I'm using MacBook Pro 2015 Mid (11.4).
I would be happy if you could enter a short sentence and tell me. thank you!
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Given the choices you listed, at US prices and a MBP11,4, personally I would go with P31 Gold > "dark blue" Sabrent > Corsair MP510.

If you live in Japan, would buying P31 Gold from online retailers in Korea be a sensible choice? I would be surprised if it's not available in their domestic market (and perhaps at lower price).
 
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IIRC, the 7+17 socket inside MacBookPro10,1 is native SATA (not PCIe). You won't be able to hook up any NVMe SSDs. Electrically incompatible.

You may look for old mSATA SSD in 2nd hand markets, and perhaps an adaptor connecting mSATA to the proprietary Apple 7+17 socket. Not that I've seen such adapters but can't rule out enterprising sellers from China may have created one in the past. I won't hold my breath.
Thank you so much for your reply.Also have another question regarding thunderbolt port.Can i use a mini display male port to usb c type cable to connect to a USB-C type ssd enclosure.Will a mini display male cable transfer data to a usb -c type ssd enclosure.
 
Read the WikiPost on the first page. It lists which MacBooks work with nvme SSDs. (Mostly mid-2013 onwards) Unfortunately yours (early-2013) does not. There is also some info in that post on finding a SSD that works with your MacBook.

If you cannot return your nvme SSD, I would seriously consider selling your MacBook and buying a later model that can take your SSD. It does make a huge difference.
Thank you so much for your reply.Also have another question regarding thunderbolt port.Can i use a mini display male port to usb c type cable to connect to a USB-C type ssd enclosure.Will a mini display male cable transfer data to a usb -c type ssd enclosure.
 
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Thank you so much for your reply.Also have another question regarding thunderbolt port.Can i use a mini display male port to usb c type cable to connect to a USB-C type ssd enclosure.Will a mini display male cable transfer data to a usb -c type ssd enclosure.
It depends on your adapter: I tried to use a Thunderbolt 2 to USB-C adapter made by Apple to connect an external USB-C SSD to the Thunderbolt port of my MBP. It did not work for me because the SSD did not receive power through the adapter.
 
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Given the choices you listed, at US prices and a MBP11,4, personally I would go with P31 Gold > "dark blue" Sabrent > Corsair MP510.

Thanks a lot for the assessment above. My situation is such that I mostly have my MBA 6,2 plugged; on the other hand my battery condition isn't great (almost 700 cycles, service recommended). So, I'd certainly prefer P31 Gold solely for the purpose of lower power consumption than Sabrent and Corsair, but by how much to justify the extra hoops for me to jump through to update P31's firmware.

Perhaps I should purchase both (P31 and Sabrent/Corsair) when my adapter arrives and return the one eventually unused.
 
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Given the choices you listed, at US prices and a MBP11,4, personally I would go with P31 Gold > "dark blue" Sabrent > Corsair MP510.

If you live in Japan, would buying P31 Gold from online retailers in Korea be a sensible choice? I would be surprised if it's not available in their domestic market (and perhaps at lower price).
Thank you for your reply. I was in great trouble, so your advice was very helpful.
I saw your advice and stopped buying ADATA yesterday. I found out that Gold P31 can be purchased from Korean mail order and Chinese amazon for $ 340 including shipping. Your advice is accurate. It turned out to be cheaper than I would buy in Japan. As expected👏

… When I updated the Japanese amazon page while writing a reply to you using Google Translate, the price suddenly changed to $ 320 :D:D:D!!!!!!(Pict.1st: Yesterday 2nd: Now 3rd: keepa)
Had I not consulted at this place, I would have regretted my purchase yesterday and cried. I'm very happy.
I'm very happy and lucky to be able to buy the Gold P31, which has been recommended by many in this thread, at almost the right price.After this, please pray you guys that I can safely update the firmware...

I am very grateful to macpro_mid2014 (#9,311) and kvic (#9,315) for their specific advice, and to everyone who read my question.Thank you everyone!!
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My situation is such that I mostly have my MBA 6,2 plugged

Perhaps I should purchase both (P31 and Sabrent/Corsair) when my adapter arrives and return the one eventually unused.

For MBA6,2 (and many other models), the socket doesn't provide enough bandwidth that worth the extra spending on a very fast SSD.

If I were in your situation, I would pick Crucial P2 and be very happy about it. Unless you plan to re-use the new purchase on newer/faster laptops or desktops, say, in two years, then perhaps worth the extra spending on P31 Gold.

… When I updated the Japanese amazon page while writing a reply to you using Google Translate, the price suddenly changed to $ 320 :D:D:D!!!!!!(Pict.1st: Yesterday 2nd: Now 3rd: keepa)

Lucky you. I checked Amazon JP. The ~$320 price still holds. Seems like the price reduction to stay for a while.

Don't forget to post a report. You may follow this post as a template.

Install iStat Menu (trial version works fine). Take a screenshot of idle power consumption out of the box (i.e. before installing ssdpmEnabler), and then idle power consumption with ssdpmEnabler. Run BlackMagic Design Diskspeed and etc.

My goal is to include your report in the Confirmed Working Models. Cheers.
 
Lucky you. I checked Amazon JP. The ~$320 price still holds. Seems like the price reduction to stay for a while.

Don't forget to post a report. You may follow this post as a template.

Install iStat Menu (trial version works fine). Take a screenshot of idle power consumption out of the box (i.e. before installing ssdpmEnabler), and then idle power consumption with ssdpmEnabler. Run BlackMagic Design Diskspeed and etc.

My goal is to include your report in the Confirmed Working Models. Cheers.
Thank you for visiting amazon jp.
The 2TB SSD will be available on September 17th, so I'll post a report after that.
I'm worried because the 2TB firmware update data is not listed on the official website.
My worries are 1) firmware update, 2) SSD installation, 3) posting proper reports. Because I have never used kent. I'm probably the best amateur here. (And I'm not very good at Englisho_O)
There is a lot of advice on this forum and I will refer to it.
I will do my best to get it on the table of your confirmed model. Thank you for a lot of advice!!
 
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Hello

I'm thinking of trying to replace my dead SSD but I still have two questions which I'm not quite sure of
- Is it necessary to tape the current Sintech adapters? (NGFF M.2 NVME SSD). Current ones are black but I think the old ones were green??
- I know reviews are mixed, but is the short one better or the long Sintech?
- Is the Kingston A2000 enough for my laptop? I don't do much heavy work though. Currently debating between Kingston and Sabrent 512GB Rocket

My specs: rMBP 15 2014

Thanks!
 
Hello

I'm thinking of trying to replace my dead SSD but I still have two questions which I'm not quite sure of
- Is it necessary to tape the current Sintech adapters? (NGFF M.2 NVME SSD). Current ones are black but I think the old ones were green??
- I know reviews are mixed, but is the short one better or the long Sintech?
- Is the Kingston A2000 enough for my laptop? I don't do much heavy work though. Currently debating between Kingston and Sabrent 512GB Rocket

My specs: rMBP 15 2014

Thanks!
I have a Blue Sabrent 1TB in a long Sintech, and did not apply klapton tape . . .

. . . I did notice some bending when tightening the retention screw, but have experienced no performance issues these past two years.

Regards, splifingate
 

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For MBA6,2 (and many other models), the socket doesn't provide enough bandwidth that worth the extra spending on a very fast SSD.

If I were in your situation, I would pick Crucial P2 and be very happy about it. Unless you plan to re-use the new purchase on newer/faster laptops or desktops, say, in two years, then perhaps worth the extra spending on P31 Gold.
Thanks for the comment. Indeed, my initial pick was Crucial P2 which tops the chart on the first page in terms of power consumption. But then I noticed posts here about the P2 performance downgrade due to TLC -> QLC. The downgrade is apparently about speeds but I'm not sure whether the power consumption stays top-notch or not. If it does, I'd simply go P2 to avoid the effort to find a Windows PC to update P31 Gold's firmware (I don't even have enough space on my current SSD to duo boot Windows so there will be hassles).
 
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Indeed, my initial pick was Crucial P2 which tops the chart on the first page in terms of power consumption. But then I noticed posts here about the P2 performance downgrade due to TLC -> QLC. The downgrade is apparently about speeds but I'm not sure whether the power consumption stays top-notch or not.

Power consumption is about the same. With QLC, fewer chips, power usage should be a bit less. Idle power is as good as before about 0.10A. Lower the idle power out of the box the better for MBA6,2.

Do note that: the new Crucial P2 comes with about 135GB fast cache. After the cache runs out, the write speed slows down to ~40MB/s. The old Crucial P2 came with a bout 24GB fast cache. After the cache runs out, the write speed is about 450MB/s. All these figures were measured by Tom's hardware on the 500GB model. And these sequential write speed varies with SSD capacity.

You could expect roughly double the speed on the 1TB model i.e. after cache runs out, I think you'll get about or slightly above 100MB/s. I assume you go with 1TB, then personally I find ~100MB/s acceptable in the rare event that an average user will temporarily use up all 135GB fast cache in their huge & bulk write.

People struggling with the new Crucial P2 - to be or not to be - should ask yourselves:
  • are you doing huge & bulk copy (>135GB at once) into P2 on a regular basis? Or only a few times per year?
  • P2 used to cost quite a lot cheaper than others that (together with v good out of box idle power) made it a sweet deal. Given the COVID inflation, prices move up quite a bit. So how much do you value the expense difference, say, between Crucial P2 and Hynix P31 Gold (or a Phison E12/E12S) for covering workload that happens only a few times per 365 days?
After all, I guess it really depends when you need to buy the SSD, and at what price points you could buy it at the time.
 
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