I would think it is an educated guess that the MBPs might follow the same color scheme as the rumoured iMacs.
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They might stick to just the more sober silver and space grey for the 'Pro' lineup, the iMac is more in line with the MacBook Air and iPad Air as a consumer machine. The MBA when it is redesigned I could absolutely see getting more colours. Perhaps they will do like the iPhone Pro and offer a rotating special colour each year though?
Interesting. Not sure about M.2 drive, but you may know better. I am guessing base 16GB memory with 32GB option. Also guessing a 16" entry spec model i.e. same M1X proc, no mini-LED display released with little fanfare around same time. Something stunning 16" M?? coming around Nov (think portable workstation Intel coffin nailer).
I think based on the found Apple patents the 16” will feature dual wireless chargers and the 14” just one on the side of the trackpad. Maybe the 16” can fit dual nvme M.2 drives.
Im on the fence but if they do pull off 14” MinLED 120hz ProMotion display and HDMI 2.1 out I’m May have to get one.asap
This is pretty much What I plan to buy except in 16". And maybe 32gb if it is affordable. +$400 I'll probably pass though. +$300 maybe will bite.
You also didn't mention wi-fi 6e - I really really want to see the 6e, 6hz variant with 3x3 in these models. Probably will still buy if it's not there though just because I need a new personal macbook so badly.
Who else seriously can’t wait for the new 14” MBP my only concern is cost. I’ve got $1,400 Stimulus but it’s gonna be double that right ?
Sounds wicked, but that price!!!
The current base intel 16 starts at 2499 with 16G RAM
The current base intel 13 4 port starts at 1799 with 512HD and 16G RAM and 1999 with 1TB/16G.
2700 dollars for 16G seems far too high.
What will that make the 16? 3k starting price!?!?! haha. Nah. No way they are that expensive.
512HD/16GR
14 around 2100~2200
16 around 2600~2700
I'm actually hoping they have an entry level model and premium model, to keep starting prices lower than this, but we shall see.
That's my guess anyway!
No way it’s gonna be top dollar Premium $$$ cash. I’m moving cash around to afford it because of the Mini-LED Display.
$2499 base 14” 16GB RAM Standard I’ll bite there. I just can’t wait.
Sold my Old 2013 MBP to my neighbor who wants to learn Apple MaC OS for $500 Returned my M1 16GB MBP that’s $1700 saved plus $1,400 Biden Stimi
thats $500+$1700+$1400 = $3,600 I’m not Gaming and I’m not going 16” 1TB SSD plus AppeCare I can make it with tax.
This seems wildly excessive. There was so much speculation the 16" was going to be $$$ over the 15", then it came in at the same price. I'd honestly say there was more reason for them to up the price of the 16" in 2019 than there really is for the upcoming model. Yes new mini LED display, but that will likely be largely or entirely cancelled out by using a cheaper Apple Silicon SoC in place of multiple components (especially in the 16"). Base scenario is they replace at cost or maybe a small +$100 adjustment, as they like to do at the start of a design cycle to help repay design costs. That leaves us with something like:
14" - M1X/512GB/16GB - $1,899
16" - M1X/512GB/16GB + 'Lifuka graphics' - $2,499
A wildcard might be the 16" without the 'Lifuka' graphics (basically a 14" in a larger casing):
16" - M1X/512GB/16GB - $1,999
This would bring us back round to pretty much 2015 pricing, with an additional 14" model sitting between the $1,299 13" and the entry $1,999 16". That then, in combination with the keyboard, dropped Touch Bar, return of ports, undoes pretty much all of the unpopular changes made in 2016.
I would love an “entry” 16”, which as you say is basically a 14” MBP in a larger 16” encasing. I would imagine there’s a decent number of ppl out there similar, who doesn’t need the “higher power” that’s usually accompanied the 15”/16”, but want the bjgger screen size.
Apple has never done this before, but if there’s ever a time to, it’s now when they’re implementing their own chips. I think more likely they won’t though, as they probably prefer keeping 16” more premium high-end product, but would love it if i’m surprised!
I've written whole dissertations on how much it upsets me that the 15"/16" has increased in base price disproportionately compared to the 13". Love your idea of the entry-level 16" without the dGPU-esque performance. Not everyone who wants a large screen also needs the world's most powerful computational and graphics performance.
The idea for the 16" is based on the 2015 lineup, they offered the Iris Pro only model for $1,999 or the Radeon dual graphics for $2,499, then that was lost for 2016 (seemingly because Intel no longer offered Iris graphics on their H series chips?) and effectively they only replaced the dual graphics option, giving it a $100 price cut but also halving the storage to 256GB (which was then reversed with the 16" and it went back to 512GB). That leads into a bit of a theme I see developing since the 16" launched. A lot of the recent rumours suggest Apple is basically 'undoing' 2016 for the MacBook pro lineup, or at least reversing all the unpopular changes they made, so that potentially includes:
- Keyboard
- Loss of ports
- Touch Bar
- Price hike
Looking at the 2015 MacBook Pro lineup there were 5 stock models:
13"
$1,299
$1,499
$1,799
15"
$1,999
$2,499
I think you can kinda see where they might end up landing if they are using that era as a model for the lineup going forward again.
I'm probably over thinking this a bit, but it was a successful era for them and everyone was pretty content with the lineup pre-2016 so they could do a lot worse than emulating it with a few modern twists!
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Wholeheartedly agree. Here were my thoughts on it a few months ago:
I just can't guess where Apple are gonna come in on price. Re 16" half of me thinks around the same price but the other half of me believes 100-200 above. 200 is extreme, but 100 wouldn't surprise me at all. As for the 14. Because it's a new form factor, I'm not sure where they will position it. A month or 2 ago I thought 1999, but I'm concerned it'll be 2100 and in an extreme case it'll hit 2200.
I also would love to see them bring back the low tier 16 as it'll do many of us perfectly. But what would that lower tier be to be honest? Unless it's like the MBA with less GPU cores due to the manu process, I can't see what that will be. Smaller HD and Ram? That's pointless if they take it below 512HD/16GR.
I think it has been shown so far that a bigger SSD is beneficial to the workings of the M1.
I also would love to see them bring back the low tier 16 as it'll do many of us perfectly. But what would that lower tier be to be honest? Unless it's like the MBA with less GPU cores due to the manu process, I can't see what that will be. Smaller HD and Ram? That's pointless if they take it below 512HD/16GR.
I think it has been shown so far that a bigger SSD is beneficial to the workings of the M1.
So what does the ETA of the 16" look like now - unlikely before WWDC?
Before it was "middle of the year," "Q2 or Q3" and now it seems everyones' predictions have been changed to "second half." Hope that means July 1st
Macs and MacBooks are traditionally launched and highlighted at WWDC there’s like years and years of data to predict Apple’s release schedule. But with Covid-19 it will likely be a Virtual not the Free Vacation and VIP status all the “invited journalists“ who would get a big ego at all these events.
I'm excited about this but... If it's true it's supposed to be square edges then how are we supposed to pick the laptop up? I mean the rounded off edges have a function... They let you put your fingers under so you can lift the laptop off the table.
Picking something completely square and very flat off of a flat surface is going to be very tricky and annoying to have to do all the time. It honestly sounds like a terrible idea.
I would be very disappointed if we get all sorts of great stuff like ports and magsafe back but then regress with an un-ergonomic body.
Picking something completely square and very flat off of a flat surface is going to be very tricky and annoying to have to do all the time. It honestly sounds like a terrible idea.
I would be very disappointed if we get all sorts of great stuff like ports and magsafe back but then regress with an un-ergonomic body.
DaSal: I’m sure that Apple will have noticed if there’s some issue about picking it up or such. I guess it will still have feet’s and maybe even have the curved design but less obvious visually (longer curve?) and just be elevated above desk. It still needs some airflow from below etc.
So don’t you worry about it. If that’s your biggest concern you should consider you lucky.
Apple is sloppy sometimes but they will most definitely not miss something so obvious that anyone would notice if they were testing the laptop even for just a day or two.
I’d be more worried about those things that appear at random and is hard to pin point the cause of.
I know most leak sources say second half year but I’m really hoping Apple is able to surprise us with The release since they have the full control of the computer development process now. Is really need it to be released in a few weeks but my hope is dying slowly and maybe WWDC is the event we’ll have to wait for and maybe in the end there’s a reason that. Hopefully positive.
Still weird that Apple releases their lowest low end computers and doesn’t release anything Mac-related for more than half a year when they made everyone very excited about this new platform that is the future.
Keep thinking about why they just didn’t wait and released it a few months before just.
Sure it’s nice to get paid to let people beta test and have lots of time to adjust the “real release” and let companies develop their apps and such but they still had the DTK then and now. I don’t know but I hope we’ll see a new old Apple, released new computers soon and kind I’d unexpected. I badly need one (but I also need some audio interface drivers though... I regret not keeping the 2020 iMac I bought..) so my judgement may be clouded.
So don’t you worry about it. If that’s your biggest concern you should consider you lucky.
Apple is sloppy sometimes but they will most definitely not miss something so obvious that anyone would notice if they were testing the laptop even for just a day or two.
I’d be more worried about those things that appear at random and is hard to pin point the cause of.
I know most leak sources say second half year but I’m really hoping Apple is able to surprise us with The release since they have the full control of the computer development process now. Is really need it to be released in a few weeks but my hope is dying slowly and maybe WWDC is the event we’ll have to wait for and maybe in the end there’s a reason that. Hopefully positive.
Still weird that Apple releases their lowest low end computers and doesn’t release anything Mac-related for more than half a year when they made everyone very excited about this new platform that is the future.
Keep thinking about why they just didn’t wait and released it a few months before just.
Sure it’s nice to get paid to let people beta test and have lots of time to adjust the “real release” and let companies develop their apps and such but they still had the DTK then and now. I don’t know but I hope we’ll see a new old Apple, released new computers soon and kind I’d unexpected. I badly need one (but I also need some audio interface drivers though... I regret not keeping the 2020 iMac I bought..) so my judgement may be clouded.
They will have rubber feet underneath the base of the Macbook. So it won't be impossible to pick up
Personally I don't think we'll see hardware during the WWDC keynote this year.
Apple can very easily 'bring the press back in' {digitally} for a solely hardware-focused event a few weeks before or after. Prior to 2020 we saw hardware at WWDC because they'd have a product or two that they wanted to show off on stage, but didn't want to assemble people from across the globe twice (two birds, one stone kind of situation). There's much less of a need to force that mashup now with the ease of separate digital events.
Also, I would LOVE to be wrong, because I want these MacBooks ASAP and don't see them coming any time before WWDC.
If it's got FaceID along with all the rest of the pretty much confirmed rumors it'll be the biggest release for a mac computer in just about forever. I doubt we'll see FaceID and if they dumped touchID for FaceID I wouldn't be happy, but if it has both, that'd be awesome. I'm sure FaceID will come, but I think that's next year.
As for a surprise feature not yet mentioned, Remote control? or the smart keys that were briefly mentioned a few months back.