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When/how will Big Sur be released?

  • Announced at the October 13th Event; Available to download shortly thereafter

    Votes: 21 9.4%
  • Announced at the October 13th Event alongside an Apple Silicon Mac; Available shortly thereafter

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Announced at a November Event, give or take alongside Apple Silicon Macs; Available shortly after

    Votes: 198 88.4%

  • Total voters
    224
Because the Macrumors forum is so representative of the entire Mac user base! 😆☺️ That poll is meaningless.

The users of this forum represents as small part of the Mac user base. Most are not as even remotely tech minded, so would be clueless about backing a Mac up.
I NEVER said it represented a "major" part of the Mac user base. But at least on this site, it is meaningful, and proves your original contention is by a wide margin wrong! In fact, it's not even close.
 

bige12

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I think we will not see 11.0, sine we never had a RC version of 11.0, but since today we say RC for 11.0.1 so I have a feeling that is what we will see next Tuesday when Big Sur comes out
 
I think we will not see 11.0, sine we never had a RC version of 11.0, but since today we say RC for 11.0.1 so I have a feeling that is what we will see next Tuesday when Big Sur comes out
That would be somewhat confusing and the exact opposite of the numbering of the initial production release of a Mac OS. It has always had a "0" as the last digit: OS 10.6.0, 10.7.0, 10.8.0, 10.9.0, 10.10.0, 10.11.0, 10.12.0, 10.13.0, 10.14.0, and 10.15.0.

I am still going with V11.0.0.
 

blindpcguy

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im still happy they didnt change the version numbering for macOS i was worried the . updates would start being 11.1 11.2 etc and next year b macOS 12 but thank god they didnt
 

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I NEVER said it represented a "major" part of the Mac user base. But at least on this site, it is meaningful, and proves your original contention is by a wide margin wrong! In fact, it's not even close.
My original contention was that those 2 apps were not used by the wider audience, it's by the minority. The total votes will be a small percentage of the forum users that use a Mac.
 
im still happy they didnt change the version numbering for macOS i was worried the . updates would start being 11.1 11.2 etc and next year b macOS 12 but thank god they didnt
For that to be the case, for any update to Big Sur, it will need to be numbered V11.0.1, V11.0.2, V11.0.3, etc., until V11.0.99. Then, next year the Mac OS could be designated as V11.1.0, and so forth.
 

blindpcguy

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well currently catalina is 10.15.7 what i was saying is i was originally worried they wouldnt do 11.0.1 and so on. next year we should get macOS 11.1 i thought they might of went macOS 12 next year
 
well currently catalina is 10.15.7 what i was saying is i was originally worried they wouldnt do 11.0.1 and so on. next year we should get macOS 11.1 i thought they might of went macOS 12 next year
This numbering scheme could get crazy, that's for sure! I see two possibilities:

1. The one i mentioned in my prior post,, ie, for Big Sur, it would be V11.0.0, V11.0.1, V11.0.2, etc. The "0" after the first comma would stay the same. Then, next year we could get V11.1.0, 11.1.1, 11.1.2, etc., with the "1" after the first comma staying the same.

Under that scenario, it would be a number of years before we get V12.0.0.

2. The other allows for ALOT more version numbers for Big Sur: V11.0.0, V11.0.1, V11.1.0, V11.1.1, etc. Basically, it could be V11.0-99, and for each of those 0-99, it could be another 0-99. Then, next year it would be V12.0.0, V12.0.1, V12.1.0, etc.
 

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I think we will not see 11.0, sine we never had a RC version of 11.0, but since today we say RC for 11.0.1 so I have a feeling that is what we will see next Tuesday when Big Sur comes out
I'm starting to lean this way as well. 11.0.0 could have been loaded on the new Macs in the factory due to time constraints and needing to get them out the door, but there were still some bugs to work out. 11.0.1 could be a minor day one update that everyone gets. So really, there could be a 11.0.0 version...it's just only on the new Macs.


im still happy they didnt change the version numbering for macOS i was worried the . updates would start being 11.1 11.2 etc and next year b macOS 12 but thank god they didnt
I could see Apple going either way with this. I feel one reason they stuck with version 10 for so long was so they could use Roman numeral X as the version. (I mean, 'Mac OS X' looks cool, right?) With the switch to Apple Silicon, a revamped look, and recently calling it macOS - now is their chance to switch to a format similar to iOS if they want to. So for version X.Y.Z, X could get updated every year; Y could be for major updates; Z could now be used for minor updates and bug fixes like in iOS, as well as supplemental and security fixes. Supplemental and security updates currently do not bump up the version number today, so it can be confusing to see what version you're actually running without looking at the build number or other things. (I'm running 10.15.7...but is that with or without the supplemental update?)

Also, there aren't any new features in 11.0.1, so that breaks the tradition where Z is updated when there are changes or new features; but rather goes along with the way iOS is versioned.


This numbering scheme could get crazy, that's for sure! I see two possibilities:

1. The one i mentioned in my prior post,, ie, for Big Sur, it would be V11.0.0, V11.0.1, V11.0.2, etc. The "0" after the first comma would stay the same. Then, next year we could get V11.1.0, 11.1.1, 11.1.2, etc., with the "1" after the first comma staying the same.

Under that scenario, it would be a number of years before we get V12.0.0.

2. The other allows for ALOT more version numbers for Big Sur: V11.0.0, V11.0.1, V11.1.0, V11.1.1, etc. Basically, it could be V11.0-99, and for each of those 0-99, it could be another 0-99. Then, next year it would be V12.0.0, V12.0.1, V12.1.0, etc.
The version number is quite frankly an arbitrary number that doesn't have any limits. It doesn't need to stop at 9, or 99, or 999. Both of your examples allow infinite number of versions. Example 1 could be 11.0.94785; Example 2 could be 11.298.4952;
 
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11.0.1 GM is out today
Just to be clear, this is a release candidate. It still says "Beta" on the installer and in "About this Mac". A true GM wouldn't be saying "Beta" anywhere. This means it's not the final build that the public would be getting.
 

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Just to be clear, this is a release candidate. It still says "Beta" on the installer and in "About this Mac". A true GM wouldn't be saying "Beta" anywhere. This means it's not the final build that the public would be getting.
Apple has changed how they do it now. GM no more, just RC, apparently.....

'Note: The term "Release Candidate" (RC) replaces "GM seed" and indicates this version is near final.'

Source: Apple's Dev site.

Screenshot 2020-11-06 at 01.23.15.png
 

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But again, the split between Time Machine, and SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner combined is 50-50. Certainly not a minority for SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner.
It's a minority of the people on the forum, which is my point. You're ignoring that and focusing how many use it within that minority. Your poll is only going to be answered by a small percentage of the Mac users on this forum, making it pointless.
 
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It's a minority of the people on the forum, which is my point. You're ignoring that and focusing how many use it within that minority. Your poll is only going to be answered by a small percentage of the Mac users on this forum, making it pointless.
No it's not. Yes, only a "minority" of people will, most likely, answer the poll. But the numbers can be revealing. If the results so far did show 90% for Time Machine and 10% for SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner combined, then your initial assertion would have been accurate, But it's nowhere close to that.

You are making pointless to have a reasonable disagreement. I still stand by my valid assertion that you are way off with your initial prediction, and that I am better than correct. I actually was expecting about 30% for SuperDuper! and Carbon Copy Cloner combined, but it's much better than that.
 
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zz_nosa_r

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Ok, what is the commotion about the SuperDuper and Carbon Copy Cloner? I think lets just focus in speculating which date it will be release.

Apple will not change their time lines even if those two will not work. Aren’t those third party apps?

Anyway, Majority including my self thinks the release will be next week either during or next day of the event. Fingers cross. Though, as always, it can change since apple likes to surprise us this 2020.

i’m excited to install it in my main machine. I’ve been playing around with the current RC and testing it, together with my company’s apps and it’s been great in the test machines.
 
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Ok, what is the commotion about the SuperDuper and Carbon Copy Cloner? I think lets just focus in speculating which date it will be release.

CCC is an essential part of many business / professional peoples working process. It will stop people upgrading, although I have received the following for CCC. It will work, but lose some functionality for a while.

We recommend waiting for a few updates before upgrading to Big Sur because important components of the OS aren't working yet.

View this email in your browser (https://mailchi.mp/bombich/carbon-copy-cloner-5-is-ready-for-macos-mojave-1183066?e=416a290c27)
 
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