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When exactly is the MacBook Pro shipping?
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cleung said:
Actually, leave it on the 2.0GHz and then add a gig of ram (so 2GB). It drops to 3-4 business days if you do that too. Odd... they've probably made a mistake somewhere.
EDIT: Most likely they put days somewhere when they meant to put weeks.
cleung said:
There is NO POSSIBLE way that the 2.16 Ghz will be shipping in 2-3 days. It was an error when they coded the website. There is no way Apple is going to push people who ordered in Jan to March, but then give people who ordered today a February shipdate if they get a 2.16 Ghz. I thought it was a hilarious mistake that 2.0 is 3-4 weeks, but wait getting this 2.16 will take you to 1-3 days!
Well, the big thing now is when the estimated ship date is for the new 1.83's. If anyone gets the email who had an estimated Feb. 15th ship date, let us know the new date so we know what to expect!
I agree with the previous poster in that there must have been a reason for the speed bump (supply, unit price, etc.), however, I think we are seeing a new Apple here. With PowerPC, Apple had to wait a long time before IBM got around to designing a new processor, and the speed upgrades were hardly anything to ride home about. However, since it was hard to compare PowerPC with Intel, Apple could kind of fool people with the true lack of performance in their mobile line as of late. With Intel, they are constantly releasing faster processors. I think Apple wants to keep MacBook Pro on the bleeding edge of the mobile market, otherwise they can't tout it as a pro laptop when cheap Dell's are shipping with more powerful processors. This could also be a big reason for the speed bump, Apple not wanting to already have a slower laptop than the competition. My take on things...
Well, let us know when you get the order update email!
I agree with the previous poster in that there must have been a reason for the speed bump (supply, unit price, etc.), however, I think we are seeing a new Apple here. With PowerPC, Apple had to wait a long time before IBM got around to designing a new processor, and the speed upgrades were hardly anything to ride home about. However, since it was hard to compare PowerPC with Intel, Apple could kind of fool people with the true lack of performance in their mobile line as of late. With Intel, they are constantly releasing faster processors. I think Apple wants to keep MacBook Pro on the bleeding edge of the mobile market, otherwise they can't tout it as a pro laptop when cheap Dell's are shipping with more powerful processors. This could also be a big reason for the speed bump, Apple not wanting to already have a slower laptop than the competition. My take on things...
Well, let us know when you get the order update email!
cnakeitaro said:
I'll let you know- I canceled my stock order and ordered the 2.16. Not only did it tell me 1-3 days, it updated to a Feb 17 ship date.
Put it this way- if they've manufactured the 2.16GHZ chip and have a stock of laptops with the 2.16, they had exactly zero (0) orders for it until 9am- no backlog.
I feel for you if you're wrong- I was in line with everyone else (and might still be). But, if I get it in 2 days or 2 weeks, no big deal- I knew I'd have regrets by not getting the 2.16 (until the 2.33 comes out). So I ordered- not to jump the line but to get the faster laptop.
ccie said:
LoL, I understand why people want it. And you might be very well right in the stock case, but I feel its more of an option. It just seems like an awfully large jump, I just highly doubt they have any 2.16 processors in stock, but more like have them on order, assuming they would have them in stock by the time they got around to the end of the queue line of everyone else who has already ordered.
For your sake. I hope your right. But it would be a kick in the nuts to everyone who has waited this long, infact I would pay $300 for it. Not only for the processor boost, but for the pushing forward of my shipdate.
But in the end, I cancelled my order I placed on Jan 10 on January 17th and decided to wait out the transition with an iMac Core Duo and spend my $3000+ on a Merom MacBook Pro.
alep85 said:
I think you are probably dead-on with the competitive speed suggestion. I didn't understand why Apple went so low when the competitors were offering 2.16Ghz out of the gate. My assumption is that it cut into Apple's profit margin too much. Speaking of cost, it's possible Intel has gone through a round of price reductions on the Core Duo processors so this was a no-cost upgrade for Apple.
I think the Core Duo chips are all made the same way regardless of speed. The ones that are higher quality and can run reliably at higher speeds are sold at the higher speed level. The ones that aren't...aren't. I was under the impression they speed locked them when they packaged them in the FCPGA carrier not during silicon fabrication. Therefore the idea that there were "more" 1.83 chips doesn't make sense since they would just as well be able to run at 1.67. It would make sense that Intel improved their yield and are able to produce many more chips that run reliably at 1.83Ghz and higher so they lowered the price across the board.
My personal theory is that they did not want to ship a MacBook Pro with the same processor clock speed as an exisitng PowerBook (ie: 1.67 GHz). By bumping the entire line, they can avoid some confusion.
I cancelled my 1.67 order and upgraded to the new 2.16. The salesman told me it would ship this week with delivery to me by 2/21/06. My orginal order placed on 1/27 for a 1.67 would not have arrived until 3/1/06ccie said:
teerexx52 said:
There is still something really odd about that. If its the truth, it tells you that the delay was caused by lack of processors.
I'm very happy about this upgrade. My order status hasn't been updated yet, but I will be sure to keep everyone up to date with my tracking status.
Hopefully it won't be delivered on Friday (I'm going on a college visit then), but I think it will probably be delivered next week Tuesday(stupid President's Day)
Hopefully it won't be delivered on Friday (I'm going on a college visit then), but I think it will probably be delivered next week Tuesday(stupid President's Day)
Congratulations on your new computer. I hope you get it soon. Sorry to bring a bit of negativity to this thread today after the boost of morale this morning after the news brief. It just still makes no sense in my mind about the shipping dates for the 2.16 model.
Any others from Australia recieved an email from the Apple web store? I've just recieved one confirming that my order will be upgraded, even though the 2.0GHz is not yet available from the Australian web store.
The scary thing is, the email quotes my web order number and name, but tells me my order for a 1.67GHz MacBook Pro will be upgraded to a 1.83GHz when I ordered a 1.83GHz in the first place and was expecting to be upgraded to 2.0GHz.
Anyone with a similar experience? I'll be calling Apple first thing in the morning.
Edit - typo.
The scary thing is, the email quotes my web order number and name, but tells me my order for a 1.67GHz MacBook Pro will be upgraded to a 1.83GHz when I ordered a 1.83GHz in the first place and was expecting to be upgraded to 2.0GHz.
Anyone with a similar experience? I'll be calling Apple first thing in the morning.
Edit - typo.
negz said:
I would call to make sure. It could be a mistake in their system that might take some correcting. Everyone makes mistakes.
I definitely wouldn't want to wait til it shows up as a downgraded model, then have to send it back.
I have not gotten an email yet, and the representative I spoke to said not to expect it until at least this afternoon, but assured me that my 1.83 would be upgraded to 2.0 automatically. He also said that their systems do not show a delay on these orders, but that there should be more details about that in the email as well. If I have to wait a little extra for it, it's definitely worth it for me, particularly since the trip that I was hoping against hope I'd have it for is tomorrow and I don't have to think about that any more.
I'm thrilled with the upgrade.
I'm thrilled with the upgrade.
But if they are upgrading all of the processors, shouldnt that meant that the previously 1.67 models would ship sooner, since they now have 1.83 chips that were supposed to go in the other ones? Just wondering, the order sounded a bit odd to me.
Looking at other posts in the news brief area of the forums according to people who called in their order for their the 2.16 Ghz....
It seems the Apple Store representative added a 4-6 week lead time to their ship dates. All I can assume that means is 4-6 weeks + 1-3 days. My assumption is that they are going to ship all the preorders before the 2.16 model.
It seems the Apple Store representative added a 4-6 week lead time to their ship dates. All I can assume that means is 4-6 weeks + 1-3 days. My assumption is that they are going to ship all the preorders before the 2.16 model.
Does anyone happen to have any solid info on the difference between the 2.0GHz and the 2.16GHz processor? Someone on the apple discussion board was saying they were talking to an engineer friend who said that the difference is worth the price for the upgrade (something about putting out less heat in the long run, etc).
I'm debating whether or not I'll opt for the 2.16 when I get my email from Apple asking me if I want to upgrade.... it's $270 for the upgrade since I used the education discount....hmmmm..... is it worth it or not
I'm debating whether or not I'll opt for the 2.16 when I get my email from Apple asking me if I want to upgrade.... it's $270 for the upgrade since I used the education discount....hmmmm..... is it worth it or not
Let me think...a less than 10% increase in speed for 270. Possibly less heat? Who really knows. I would not think it would be worth it.
Yeah, IMO it would not be worth the upgrade. I'll stick with my now 1.83. Think about it, as of yesterday, many people were excited about getting their 1.83 models, now that there is something a bit faster, should they really be THAT concerned about it? Ouch, I hope people don't lose their excitement and contentment that quickly.
KD7IWP said:
Well, my deal is that I wanted the fastest processor available at the time, assuming it was a reasonable price. While I don't see a 0.16GHz for $300 being reasonable, it would depend on if there's some uber1337ness to the newer processor.
Also.... I'm also seeing mention that only the 1.67GHz models are upgraded and that the 1.83s are still the same but we're getting credited the difference rather than upgrading us to the 2.0GHz... this can't be right, can it? Didn't the PR say all were being upgraded?