macreator said:
I saw it work at MWSF '06! I really can't think of what is holding it up, unless its just overheating. Steve told us it would ship in February, didn't really say when in February....the website told us the 15th.
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I saw it work at MWSF '06! I really can't think of what is holding it up, unless its just overheating. Steve told us it would ship in February, didn't really say when in February....the website told us the 15th.
I really think that they are doing everything they can to get it out faster. But there are a few possibilities. There is a Battery Problem. Or there is an Intel Problem.
Battery has been drilled in enough.
Intel...did it not come out a few days before the 7th that the Yonah was 64 bit but disabled? Maybe Apple is going, wait we want the chips and them to enabled. Take all these gymp chips back and give us the real thing.
Or maybe there is a strike in China? Who knows.
Battery has been drilled in enough.
Intel...did it not come out a few days before the 7th that the Yonah was 64 bit but disabled? Maybe Apple is going, wait we want the chips and them to enabled. Take all these gymp chips back and give us the real thing.
Or maybe there is a strike in China? Who knows.
I will be so furious at Apple if the 15 rolls around and then they announce a delay in shipping. As so many have previously stated, they know now if they have started producing them. The only way they will be able to start shipping Wednesday is if they started production at least last week, and I think they know this by now. If they haven't started production or started it Friday or something, they need to let people know they shouldn't expect their order shipped Wednesday.
I know Apple likes secrets but this is no they should not be keeping. I will seriously consider canceling my order and sticking with Windows if this is how my experiences with Mac is going to start. Hell, I could get a cheaper laptop with the same specs and sell my current camera and get a Rebel XT.
They better get that order out and if they don't there wont be an acceptable excuse for not telling us earlier unless its that Apple was waiting to have a shipment of iPods ready to ship with our MacBooks free or charge as a gift for waiting so long.
I know Apple likes secrets but this is no they should not be keeping. I will seriously consider canceling my order and sticking with Windows if this is how my experiences with Mac is going to start. Hell, I could get a cheaper laptop with the same specs and sell my current camera and get a Rebel XT.
They better get that order out and if they don't there wont be an acceptable excuse for not telling us earlier unless its that Apple was waiting to have a shipment of iPods ready to ship with our MacBooks free or charge as a gift for waiting so long.
1 Gig Nano would make me less aggitated about a further wait. I will still be upset but not as bad.
Well, the MBP is a bit more than the iMac and it is there Pro line. From past experiences they tend to care about the Pro line more than the iMac, iBook, MacMini, and eMac. Just think that they would be more concerned about the MBP being the Pro series. iMac may have the same stats but it is not a Pro desktop. It is a sleek and nice desktop. It is higher end than most but it is far from a Pro desktop.
I have to say I completely agree. If the 15th comes , and I get that Freakn email saying my order is delayed till March I'm going to be LIVID! Apple knows full well what staus they are in to ship MacBook's come wednesday, and any evidence to the contrary is bull*****.Wes Jordan said:
Apple is probably scared of the prospect of customers canceling their orders, and going with something else. I personally know 3 pc-switchers who have pre-ordered a MacBook, yet are growing increasingly uneasy as time goes by. If the 15th comes with another email, stating product unavailability, I'm pretty certain those are 3 orders lost for Apple. All we want here is some honesty. Admittedly, I am insufferably impatient at this moment so my judgement may be flawed.
AJBMatrix said:
your dreaming. The iMac was 64-bit long before the Powerbook, oh wait, the powerbook has never been 64-bit. The desktop consumer line has always been more powerful or equal to the pro laptop. The Core Duo was never intended to be 64-bit, and that rumor only came around because the Sossaman was supposedly 64-bit and they are the same chip, but the Sossaman has now been found to be a 32-bit processor.
maverick808 said:
See here is the thing. That is an outright lie. If that was true people would be getting their MacBooks now. AFAIK not a single person ANYWHERE has gotten their MacBook which begs the question when is day one of shipping and why were you just pushed from the front to the back of the line?
The e-mail you got sounds like "so sorry. Your laptop has been reallocated to someone else. sit and spin sucker." And if that is true why hasn't anyone gotten it yet? Again It makes it sound like the laptops were pulled from Europe and sent to the US for shipping.
My PIDOOMA Model suggests that Apple is seeing more preorders via their site in the US then in Europe and is shifting supplies to meet demand with the next round of MacBooks shipping in early March and those are going out to European folks. But again the only thing that would lend to this theory is to find out WHO had the Feb 7th and 10th ship dates. Did anyone in the US have those dates or were they all folks from Europe?
I'm pretty sure only the Europe Store gave out shipdates of earlier than February 15th. I ordered mine day of in the United States and has a February 15th shipdate.
The desktops are only more powerful due to the power demands of the G5. The PowerBook was never 64-bit because the G4 was not. The G5 was too much of a power hog and it also created way too much heat. Now if you had a generator and a water cooling system, then hey you could maybe somewhat make a portable G5. The PowerBook and the PowerMac were the Loved Children. The others are the middle Children. Just what gets everyone else involved. The Pros get much better support. If it was not due to physical limitations the PowerBook would have been just as powerful if not more so than the iMac.
Those of us in the US who have had the 15th as the ship date since we ordered have no reason whatsoever to be upset with Apple. Our ship date has not changed since our order was placed, and Apple gives us no indication that it's going to. Granted, the fact that some of our UK based compatriots had their order dates moved is worrisome, but we still don't have any concrete worries at this point.
We need to collectively ssttle down and wait for the 15th to go by before we really get indignant. I'm optimistic about my MBP shipping on the 15th. It's not going to keep me from checking forums many times a day, but I'm optimistic.
We need to collectively ssttle down and wait for the 15th to go by before we really get indignant. I'm optimistic about my MBP shipping on the 15th. It's not going to keep me from checking forums many times a day, but I'm optimistic.
cnakeitaro said:
Oh god. Way to sidestep the fact they didn't have a freaking chip to even put into Apple's laptop line? Unless PowerBooks could have run on imaginary phantom chips in which case yah Apple is so in the wrong for not upgrading their laptop line to 64-bit chips.
Would you suggest that Apple sit on its hands for another 6+ months (Realistically more like a year) waiting for Intels next gen chip to launch all the while PC laptop make the PowerBook look even more pathetic, which I wouldnt think would be possible. Apple did the right thing putting the G5 in the iMac because that was the right move at the time. Apple also did the right thing by putting the Core Duo in the PowerBook and Apple most certainly did the right thing moving the iMac to the Core Duo. Its the closest thing they can do to draw the line in the sand for developers and say get your **** together now guys. We are moving.That being said I think Apple treats all its hardware the same. The only reason why this wasnt apparent up til now is because Apple had to be extraordinary careful about what features went into each model because frankly Apple didnt have too many features to differentiate between the Pro and the Consumer model. Now that they do watch as there will be a major gap between what ships in the Pro and consumer line.
NeuronBasher said:
Did you even read the discussion up til this point? Its been stated time and again that people who had a shipping date of Feb 7th weren't told until that day that their order has been pushed back. Until Feb 15 comes and laptops start shipping there very much is a real concern.
SiliconAddict said:
Originally I had assumed that I was pushed to the back of the line and that my MacBook must have been reallocated to someone else. However, the more I think about it the more that just doesn't make sense at all. Why would Apple do that?
Apple is known to have a first-come, first-served order system and if they have pushed back a bunch of people then those people are going to be seriously pissed about that. I just don't see why Apple would risk messing with so many people for no good reason. I don't think they have reallocated Europe machines to the US since that's never happened before so I don't see why they would do it now... it would be massive two fingers up and a "sod you" to the whole European market if they did that.
This makes me think that the delay is for some manufacturing problem with the whole lot. Before mine shipped I was told that there were no delays and it would ship on time and, since people are being told the same thing about the 15th ship dates, I'm beginning to think that what happened to me is what will happen on the 15th to everyone that had ship dates then too.
Wow, I was originally regretting cancelling my order for a MBP once I heard about the delay for Merom, but now I'm not so sure. I think I'd go crazy with all this drama.
Well, it was just a theory. And no I was not trying to come up with a Phantom Chip. And putting the G5 into a desktop was a smart move. It fit, it worked, and you did not have the same concerns as you do with a laptop. I never said any of that. You just like to twist my words. I am saying that Apple likes there Pro products better and they are bias toward them.
Who knows, the iMac may have been released a little premature just for the fact that it is a test run for the MBP. It may be out there so that all bugs that are reported to them can be fixed or in the process by the time that the MBP sets out.
Who really knows. You want my theory...it is probably about as likely as the other 100 or so that are floating around. The plant in China got shut down for having illegal workers and Jobs is over trying to negotiate for the hostages.
Who knows, the iMac may have been released a little premature just for the fact that it is a test run for the MBP. It may be out there so that all bugs that are reported to them can be fixed or in the process by the time that the MBP sets out.
Who really knows. You want my theory...it is probably about as likely as the other 100 or so that are floating around. The plant in China got shut down for having illegal workers and Jobs is over trying to negotiate for the hostages.
I still think the Consumer desktop line power will always either rival or be greater than the Pro laptops. A desktop is a desktop and has more room for extra features and cooling units than a 1 inch thin powerbook enclosure.
I ordered mine the 7th....my shipdate is the 28th....god I'm hoping....I'm so f***in tired of this Dull...I mean Dell....I work on a G5 at school and I'm so reluctant to come home, sit down at my computer and painfully watch how slow windows xp loads my browser.
Has Apple ever been known to compensate for their delays with free gifts?
Has Apple ever been known to compensate for their delays with free gifts?
We are really comparing two different things. You can always make a more powerful Desktop than a Lappy. It is just physically impossible to make them equal all the time. I am just stating that the Pro series is the one that Apple Favors more. They LIKE the PRO series better than the consumer. They would rather update the Pros than the consumer. That is all I am saying. I know that they all have close to the same update cycle. Jobs even comments on how Apples are for the Pros.
AJBMatrix said:
I am really tired of arguing over this and I'm going to bed, but I find it insulting that you would say that Apple favors pro users over consumer users. I find it odd that all the new features of the powerbooks found their way into the iMac first under your arguement. Consumer users could easily go back to Windows, they don't need Pro Apps. And by alienating the people who just bought intel iMacs's, by introducing a 64-bit Core Duo in the first line of MacBooks Pro's, would not be very market friendly.
Here's my question:
What happens to those who took advantage of buying a new MBP with the $100 rebate on a new printer? I went for that, and I got my printer, but still waiting on the laptop. If you look at the rebate form, I believe I need both the UPC from my printer AND Macbook Pro. I at least need my receipt, but I have no receipt since I have not been charged for the MBP yet. Now, the rebate also says that I MUST send in the rebate form within 30 days of purchase. So... I ordered on the 19th of January, does this mean that if my MBP doesn't get here until March that my rebate form is invalid?
What happens to those who took advantage of buying a new MBP with the $100 rebate on a new printer? I went for that, and I got my printer, but still waiting on the laptop. If you look at the rebate form, I believe I need both the UPC from my printer AND Macbook Pro. I at least need my receipt, but I have no receipt since I have not been charged for the MBP yet. Now, the rebate also says that I MUST send in the rebate form within 30 days of purchase. So... I ordered on the 19th of January, does this mean that if my MBP doesn't get here until March that my rebate form is invalid?