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Other Which iPhone 12 model will you purchase?
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I definitely want to buy the 12 Pro Max if the Qualcomm modem is back in them. I also want a 5G device to hold onto for 2 years, since 5G will be here at the end of the year with my carrier. I plan to keep my device for 2 years (fingers crossed I can hold true to that) since I’m paying outright.
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As much as I love the prospects of 5g I don’t think it’s over hyped. At least after the first week of owning the phone and noticing no matter what it’s not better than LTE lol. I’ll be buying a few 5g phones to enjoy until next fall
Same here.
Go big or go home. Have been on a 2yr upgrade path for the last 4 years. Hoping to keep the iPhone 12 Pro Max for 3 years.
Saved a bunch keeping to LCD iPhone XR and not jumping on iPhone X or XS. but dark mode is here to stay.
5G is a bit hyped but will be less crowded network for first couple of years. It will also help in resale value down the road.
Been waiting for an iPhone like the rumoured 5.4" 12 for a long time. Small form factor, home-button free screen, narrow bezels. As lots have said, this is what I imagined a 2nd generation SE should have been. It's been years since I pre-ordered any phone, but I will be this year.
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If you’re saying that’s what the second GEN SE ‘should’ve been’, but wouldn’t the price point be reflective a lot higher? The whole point of the second GEN SE is to keep the price point low as possible, but including Face ID and other new-er technology, that would only increase the price, which would ultimately defeat the purpose of the 2nd GEN SE at $399.
Last year I swapped my iPhone X for an 11 pro on impulse - because I wanted the green phone. Performance-wise, however, it felt like my old X. This was unlike previous upgrades (3g -> 4 -> 4s -> 6 -> 7 -> X) which all felt better.
With that, I no longer see the need to upgrade a working phone.
With that, I no longer see the need to upgrade a working phone.
Could be, but that huge segment is not well represented on the poll results. I know that are altered because of fan base here, but at least is interesting.
I’m not saying that is not good to have options, in fact I think that is important. But what I wanted to say is that mid-tier in Apple is really high and close to the high-end. You spend a quite a bit of money and you still have the feeling of not having a pro model. For me it would make more sense something around 450-500 as the mid-tier. Having different sizes helps in making all phones interesting but this year two devices with same size competing seems not a good move (check poll results).
So people either pay a grand for a Pro iPhone or get a really slimmed down £450-500 model which is missing loads of the newer features because it’s impossible to manufacture up to the current mid tier standard? That sounds utterly crap for people like myself who want a decent iPhone for a sensible cost.
The poll is completely irrelevant outside of this forum. This is a site where tech fans post and the results will always favour the better models. If Apple were to do what you are saying then more people would simply buy last years model to get better value and phones would be kept even longer. Am I right in thinking you are going for the 5.4” model then?
Correct. Though, I’m still shocked at how low interest the 6.1” non-pro is receiving.
I'm not. 6.1" as a size is bad, and Pro buyers aren't necessarily interested in a phablet, so "have" to choose the 6.1". And non-pro users here are stoked as h*** for a iphone 5-ish size.
It's like Apple did market research and asked people stupid questions like "would you prefer more screen or less screen to watch movies and look at photos?"
That 6.1" non-pro is garbage and shouldn't exist. Make the choices 5.4" at $750 (but I'm personally hoping for $650), and the 6.1" pro at $999. That's a very convincing up sell for Apple with all the added bells and whistles of a Pro AND a larger screen.
But again, I think that 6.1" is failed market research with stupid questions.... People bought the 11 6.1" because it was the cheapest new phone... not because of the size.
Edit: Good design derives from first establishing goals and the parameters to work within, then crafting the design. Why was the iPhone that size? It starting with Jobs probably saying, "it must fit comfortably in hand." So then what design came from that establishing principle?
iPhone 11 had no designing principle other than (what I assume) "lets make a big phone that fits everything".
the iphoneX had design thought out into it: 5.8" screen that could still be comfortably held and used (or at least just as comfortably as an iPhone 6).
Feel free to discuss ?
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At this point in time, bigger phones are the norm. Sure, there's an underserved customer base wanting smaller devices for whom the 2020 iPhone SE and 5.4" iPhone 12 are bound to be hits. However, there's still a big market for what are considered "average-sized" phones nowadays. If Apple goes $1K minimum on 6.1" (likely much higher in other countries), they could be driving those customers towards Android.
What does the 6.1" iPhone 12 Pro have that the 6.1" iPhone 12 Max doesn't anyway? Better cameras and LIDAR? I doubt the average consumer cares overmuch about those.
Remember when the 6 came out and everyone thought it was Huuuuuuuuge! Too big! Phablet!!! Android!!!!
how the turn tables ? (The Office reference)
I'm not. 6.1" as a size is bad, and Pro buyers aren't necessarily interested in a phablet, so "have" to choose the 6.1". And non-pro users here are stoked as h*** for a iphone 5-ish size.
It's like Apple did market research and asked people stupid questions like "would you prefer more screen or less screen to watch movies and look at photos?"
That 6.1" non-pro is garbage and shouldn't exist. Make the choices 5.4" at $750 (but I'm personally hoping for $650), and the 6.1" pro at $999. That's a very convincing up sell for Apple with all the added bells and whistles of a Pro AND a larger screen.
But again, I think that 6.1" is failed market research with stupid questions.... People bought the 11 6.1" because it was the cheapest new phone... not because of the size.
Edit: Good design derives from first establishing goals and the parameters to work within, then crafting the design. Why was the iPhone that size? It starting with Jobs probably saying, "it must fit comfortably in hand." So then what design came from that establishing principle?
iPhone 11 had no designing principle other than (what I assume) "lets make a big phone that fits everything".
the iphoneX had design thought out into it: 5.8" screen that could still be comfortably held and used (or at least just as comfortably as an iPhone 6).
Feel free to discuss
Your suggestion would mean people who like a bigger screen would have no option but to buy a smaller device as there wouldn’t be an option other than the Pro. The non-Pro market is Apples biggest market and only having one choice would be a huge gamble IMO. I think they’d end up getting less money out of people as naturally last years models would have to be considered.
Exactly. If larger phones on the whole are more popular, then it makes more sense to include a larger iPhone for the mainstream market. Reserving a larger device for the smaller Pro market is risky.
You would be getting the iPhone 12 max. That's the same size as your XR (but with flat sides instead of rounded edges) and a much, much better screen and camera system.If I’m honest I am now totally confused with all the rumoured model number changes. I would like the successor to my XR but I now have no idea what it will be called in the new lineup. Does anyone know?
The only thing the non-pro 6.1" has going for it over the 6.1" Pro is the price. If you want a compact phone there's the 5.4", if you want big there's the 6.7" Pro, but if you are after a 6.1" model the only reason to choose the non-pro is if you can't afford the pro. So it makes sense to me that this would be the least popular model here.