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jr866gooner

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I would have jumped on a new iPhone from my 5c however I simply couldn't afford it. Happy with my S6 for now.
 

iphonedude2008

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I would have jumped on a new iPhone from my 5c however I simply couldn't afford it. Happy with my S6 for now.
That's the problem with apples devices. They're great, but really expensive compared to other phones. Of course it works for them and they're getting record profit, but it would be nice if they were cheaper.
 

apolloa

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I was reminded today how less capable iOS is over Android, I was in the supermarket, pulled out my iPhone 6S, went into Google Keep to pull the shopping lost up and bam, it hadn't synced to the latest list I made on my Android tablet. It luckily had data connection do updated there and then.

But if that was an Android device it would have automatically synced ages before without me having to open the app. It certainly shows how iOS still doesn't multitask as well. And my tablet with its Snap Dragon 801 and 3GB ram is much snappier too.

Gah better not sell the iPhone and go back to the Note...
 

MRU

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I was reminded today how less capable iOS is over Android, I was in the supermarket, pulled out my iPhone 6S, went into Google Keep to pull the shopping lost up and bam, it hadn't synced to the latest list I made on my Android tablet. It luckily had data connection do updated there and then.

But if that was an Android device it would have automatically synced ages before without me having to open the app. It certainly shows how iOS still doesn't multitask as well. And my tablet with its Snap Dragon 801 and 3GB ram is much snappier too.

Gah better not sell the iPhone and go back to the Note...
I have background app sync on for Google keep and it updates exactly same on my ios devices as my myriad of android.

I think your maybe getting a touch of 'the grass is greener'itis .... ;)
 

gotluck

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I was reminded today how less capable iOS is over Android, I was in the supermarket, pulled out my iPhone 6S, went into Google Keep to pull the shopping lost up and bam, it hadn't synced to the latest list I made on my Android tablet. It luckily had data connection do updated there and then.

But if that was an Android device it would have automatically synced ages before without me having to open the app. It certainly shows how iOS still doesn't multitask as well. And my tablet with its Snap Dragon 801 and 3GB ram is much snappier too.

Gah better not sell the iPhone and go back to the Note...

On the flip side I'm stoked to not have to use greenify to keep apps from backgrounding that I don't want to background. :p

Seriously though I'm surprised you aren't experiencing what MRU said.
 

apolloa

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Grass is never ever greener, just a different shade of green, but I totally forgot that iOS doesn't do multitasking, as in update things like my Google Keep lists in the background.

Or if I'm missing something to enable background sync?
 
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aces99

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I am actually looking for a new phone and tablet right now. I have a iPhone 5S and want to upgrade it to a new phone that is the same size. I have been holding off until I find one that I like and is the same size. It is hard finding a 4 inch premium phone now a days. I also want to upgrade to a iPad Air 3 once it comes out. If one doesn't come out then I will be looking at a different tablet.
 

MRU

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Grass is never ever greener, just a different shade of green, but I totally forgot that iOS doesn't do multitasking, as in update things like my Google Keep lists in the background.

Or if I'm missing something to enable background sync?

Actually I just tried by adding an item to google keep on iOS.

Then left it 20 minutes so any background task would be done on Android.

Then launched Keep on
Galaxy S6 Edge + , Moto X Style & Nexus 6P

All of them had to refresh content on launch. None had automatically downloaded / updated the new item in the background.


So then I experimented with Android. I cleaned open recent windows on all devices including iOS and launched Keep first on the S6 Edge + and created new item in Keep

Again gave it 15 minutes and then opened on the other devices. None had fetched the data in background and all had to refresh to update content.

Did same on Moto X Style & Nexus P afterwards and regardless the same thing applied result wise,

All devices, iOS or Lollipop/Marshmallow behaved in the same way for me in Keep.

Latest content was never loaded automatically in background only when launching the app and it does its initial refresh.
 

kevinof

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MRU - it's possible the sync is actually completed in the background but it's the ui or front end that doesn't refresh. I don't know of any way to check the sync status though.

I did a test with my ipad and S6. Added a note in keep on ios and it showed up on Android instantly without refresh (left the screen on and in keep).

Did the same in reverse but never appeared on ios. Had to refresh to view the note so ios is either not synching or does sync but doesn't refresh the ui.
 
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apolloa

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Actually I just tried by adding an item to google keep on iOS.

Then left it 20 minutes so any background task would be done on Android.

Then launched Keep on
Galaxy S6 Edge + , Moto X Style & Nexus 6P

All of them had to refresh content on launch. None had automatically downloaded / updated the new item in the background.


So then I experimented with Android. I cleaned open recent windows on all devices including iOS and launched Keep first on the S6 Edge + and created new item in Keep

Again gave it 15 minutes and then opened on the other devices. None had fetched the data in background and all had to refresh to update content.

Did same on Moto X Style & Nexus P afterwards and regardless the same thing applied result wise,

All devices, iOS or Lollipop/Marshmallow behaved in the same way for me in Keep.

Latest content was never loaded automatically in background only when launching the app and it does its initial refresh.

MRU - it's possible the sync is actually completed in the background but it's the ui or front end that doesn't refresh. I don't know of any way to check the sync status though.

I did a test with my ipad and S6. Added a note in keep on ios and it showed up on Android instantly without refresh (left the screen on and in keep).

Did the same in reverse but never appeared on ios. Had to refresh to view the note so ios is either not synching or does sync but doesn't refresh the ui.

Interesring, I don't have Marshmallow on my tablet, it has Lollipop, but I'm sure my Nexus and tablet would update the lists?
But reading the comment by kevinof it does seem iOS doesn't refresh like Android does? Their certainly seems to be a difference.
 
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kevinof

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Ios takes about 20 minutes to update, Android was seconds. It seems to me like ios is limiting background activity in order to maximize (I believe) battery. You can force an update by killing the app and opening it again but to me that's a workaround and not a solution.

This is just for Google keep - it may be that other apps behave differently.
 
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apolloa

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Ios takes about 20 minutes to update, Android was seconds. It seems to me like ios is limiting background activity in order to maximize (I believe) battery. You can force an update by killing the app and opening it again but to me that's a workaround and not a solution.

This is just for Google keep - it may be that other apps behave differently.

Ah thanks, I'm sure it was a lot more then 20 mins between my update on my tablet and then using the app on my iPhone. I'll test it out later. Certainly not as good as Android, I would also say it must be to conserve battery life as the iPhone has a tiny battery, but I feel having a bigger battery for much faster and more convenient updates etc is more preferred no?
 

throwthedice

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If iOS is actually limiting background activity to conserve battery, I wonder if the updates on the Notes App are "real time".
 

Tig Bitties

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Anyone here, try both the Note 5 and iPhone 6S Plus, that isn't an Apple fanboy, meaning doesn't also own a Mac or iPad ? But just enjoys good smartphone.

What do you prefer
 

Tig Bitties

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If that isn't a loaded question I don't know what is? lol

I am not trying to flame bait. Was a serious question. I know most iPhone owners, really like the so called integration or whatever that means. I'm talking just smartphone vs smartphone, leave aside all the Computer and Tablet stuff, and overall which is a better and more enjoyable smartphone ?

I never understood that integration thing anyways. I have a Gaming PC computer custom built high end rig, which I don't need my smartphone to ever communicate with. I don't own a Tablet, and really don't plan to get one, and I LOVE smartphones, regardless of brand.

Just for overall smartphone, and lets say you don';t own any other gadget for sake of argument, which do tech geeks prefer, a Note 5 or iPhone 6S Plus ?
 

Fernandez21

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I am not trying to flame bait. Was a serious question. I know most iPhone owners, really like the so called integration or whatever that means. I'm talking just smartphone vs smartphone, leave aside all the Computer and Tablet stuff, and overall which is a better and more enjoyable smartphone ?

I never understood that integration thing anyways. I have a Gaming PC computer custom built high end rig, which I don't need my smartphone to ever communicate with. I don't own a Tablet, and really don't plan to get one, and I LOVE smartphones, regardless of brand.

Just for overall smartphone, and lets say you don';t own any other gadget for sake of argument, which do tech geeks prefer, a Note 5 or iPhone 6S Plus ?
I don't own a 6S Plus, but I do have the regular 6s and last year's 6 plus, and I think I would lean towards the Note 5. The Note 5 is easier to handle one handed and I like lollipop better than ios 9. Performance wise they're about the same but you get some extra features such as multi window and the spen. The screen is also better.

Overall though I would still pick the iphone because of slightly better apps, faster updates, better customer service, better battery life, imessage, facetime, and the integration with my apple watch, Apple tv, ipad, and macbook air. But if those things don't matter to you, I think the Note is better
 
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apolloa

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Anyone here, try both the Note 5 and iPhone 6S Plus, that isn't an Apple fanboy, meaning doesn't also own a Mac or iPad ? But just enjoys good smartphone.

What do you prefer

Well, based on my iPhone 6S (non Plus) and Note 5 experience:

The Note 5 is tricky to setup how you want, but that's part of the Android fun isn't it? It's faster and you can feel it's power and so far I think the camera is better. It is a big device though, and it was getting tricky for me to set it up as I wanted it but I am beginning to miss it...

The iPhone 6S, an absolute pleasurable doddle to setup, doesn't really feel as fast but also doesn't feel slow, I haven't had the feeling of power when using it if that makes sense? It takes longer to sync with my car bluetooth also for some odd reason? And it lacks wireless charging, but the battery life is better with the iPhone, however as said above this seems to partly be because iOS still doesn't do background syncing and multitasking as well as Android. Also it doesn't reconnect to WiFi as well as Android does.

I have to say, I played with my Note 5 a fair bit before I sent it back, I haven't really played with my iPhone, just set it up and use it when needed. I like the idea of Apple pay and the screen and animations are cool, but then so is the Note 5's.

I need to test the camera further, but if I do find the iPhone camera struggles with my dogs fur like iPhones of old used to, I think I may have to bite the bullet and get the Note 5 again, I'll have my iPod Touch come Christmas so I get access to all my apps in a nice compact iOS device. My devices have to suit MY needs, if they don't they go back because why change and compromise on what you want, buy what does what you need I say. So far the iPhone is giving me the physical size and battery life and quality of the device and ease of use, but that's all so far..
 
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Fernandez21

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Well, based on my iPhone 6S (non Plus) and Note 5 experience:

The Note 5 is tricky to setup how you want, but that's part of the Android fun isn't it? It's faster and you can feel it's power and so far I think the camera is better. It is a big device though, and it was getting tricky for me to set it up as I wanted it but I am beginning to miss it...

The iPhone 6S, an absolute pleasurable doddle to setup, doesn't really feel as fast but also doesn't feel slow, I haven't had the feeling of power when using it if that makes sense? It takes longer to sync with my car bluetooth also for some odd reason? And it lacks wireless charging, but the battery life is better with the iPhone, however as said above this seems to partly be because iOS still doesn't do background syncing and multitasking as well as Android. Also it doesn't reconnect to WiFi as well as Android does.

I have to say, I played with my Note 5 a fair bit before I sent it back, I haven't really played with my iPhone, just set it up and use it when needed. I like the idea of Apple pay and the screen and animations are cool, but then so is the Note 5's.

I need to test the camera further, but if I do find the iPhone camera struggles with my dogs fur like iPhones of old used to, I think I may have to bite the bullet and get the Note 5 again, I'll have my iPod Touch come Christmas so I get access to all my apps in a nice compact iOS device. My devices have to suit MY needs, if they don't they go back because why change and compromise on what you want, buy what does what you need I say. So far the iPhone is giving me the physical size and battery life and quality of the device and ease of use, but that's all so far..
I know what you mean, I just switched to the Google now launcher and every once in while when im bored I tweak something here and there, but I haven't done anything on my iphone, just changed the wallpaper.

As for the camera, both have their strong points. Because of ois I like shooting video better on my note, and pictures in good light seem to pop a little more, they have more color but in a good way. However in low light the iphone seems to do better with less noise and it seems to have a better dynamic range. Neither is better than the other in all cases
 

MRU

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. I'm talking just smartphone vs smartphone, leave aside all the Computer and Tablet stuff, and overall which is a better and more enjoyable smartphone ?

The answer would be just the same. Subjective preferences would still apply regardless so you'll find some that will prefer iPhone and some that won't.

The vast majority of iPhone users I know are not Mac owners; neither tablet or computer.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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The answer would be just the same. Subjective preferences would still apply regardless so you'll find some that will prefer iPhone and some that won't.

The vast majority of iPhone users I know are not Mac owners; neither tablet or computer.
Indeed. I do use an iPhone and I have an iPad but it's for very basic browsing etc. My computing demands are all PC and that is mainly because you can't run SolidWorks on a Mac. I prefer the iPhone for my smartphone needs because it's reliable and very easy to set up. I don't feel I miss customisation simply because I like the way iOS manages it and the user experience is polished for me.

Android is an excellent alternative for those that like tweaking and playing with different features etc.
 
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