Any car that isn't a skateboard platformIt is just an inherent trait of the design choice of the platform. It is not an opinion, it is just the way it is.
Can't get current prices online anymore. Tesla doesn't allow for Model S orders at the moment, just a deposit for when it may become available again. So it has become academic only.
Tesla likely will either drop their prices further to match the segment their cars belong in, or (more likely) will keep them at this level for longer whilst others become more expensive.Measure it, you'll notice a difference. Think about it logically, where do the batteries go? And if the batteries are there then where do the feet go? You can see it in the shape of the floor.
Same here. The design just leaves me cold. I think the batteries are great. The charging network is great. The way the car communicates with the charger is great. They got all that spot on.
You're comparing the Model S to the class above it. There is no way a Model S is competitive with a large executive sedan. It's much closer to the E-class/A6/5er/EQE in size.
The M3/MY are mid-size sedans, the MS/MX are full size sedans... The S is in the same class as the S/A8/7 series. Although it may be shorter (because of no need for an ICE), it is wider than the A8 and S550. The interior is the size of the full-sized sedans, and the interior of the M3/MY are the size of mid-sized sedans.
It may be size wise but it isn't luxury wise which becomes really important when you are looking in that top end class. That is saying like a Toyota Camry with heater leather seats is like an Mercedes S Class. All sorts of subjective elements come into it like the materials used, ownership experience, experience when driving and being driven. It is something Tesla just hasn't mastered, even Lexus hasn't mastered that despite almost doing it on paper to perfection. That class comes with an x-factor for lack of a better word. Or as I would say; je ne sais quoi.
No it isn't. 🤣
A more practical interior for your particular use case perhaps, but much bigger and the same as an a6/5-series; nope just nope. Skoda is also very good at practical interiors in smaller sizes, and Seat tends to be as well. And Nissan used to be pretty good at that as well. And there is nothing wrong with that if that is what is desired, but don't correlate that to being bigger.
Ours runs on Android Automotive Operating System AAOS. At first there was no Apple Carplay, last June that was introduced. I actually haven't used it as all the inbuilt systems work incredibly well together with an iPhone and nicely integrated. Locations search on the iPhone also show up in the car, Google Assistant can easily deal with iMessage (which is SMS anyway) both reading out and dictating and sending. Inbuild for Spotify (or if you prefer Deezer, Youtube, Amazon etc). I thought I would miss it, but nope not at all actually.
I can get a 6’2” adult behind me in my Audi A4 quite comfortably. The older BMW 3-Series have a slightly smaller cabin, or that’s how it feels.
Everyone is different and likes different things. But to me it just looks like someone glued an iPad to the dash.I like the interior look... Simple, clean, not cluttered. I do think a small screen behind the steering wheel with the main details could be included in the M3/MY lineup, much like the MS/MX.
I'm not a fan of the snub nose on the M3/MY, I like the look of the aftermarket front bumpers that have that bumper line straight across, but I as I understand it, every aspect of the exterior design was for efficiency.
I also will say, that if you are not in the FSD beta program, the interface is not the best. I've been in the Beta program since I bought my M3. So, perhaps the big issue a lot of people have with the Tesla "OS" is that. The next software upgrade should bring most of the FSD Beta features to the regular OS.
For example, FSD Beta has this:
No CarPlay is a deal breaker for me on any car I would consider. I didn’t have it on my Golf and it frustrated the hell out of me. Hopefully they get it on there at some point. I think they would get some more customers if they did.
That is exactly it! Less flat floor, less flat bench, less flat seats, less flat dashboard, it's an illusion that it is smaller. It isn't really, it just more ergonomic, hugs more, and different. No right or wrong about it, it is what it is and people have different preferences or needs.
Its mad isn't it, you can get 3 points on your license and a significant fine for touching a smartphone mounted on your dashboard, but its fine navigating through a tablet that is integrated into the car. I agree with so many car reviewers that these almost fully touchscreen dashboards are dangerous and distracting. Features like heaters and air vent speeds should not be hidden in menus and physical buttons should be mandatory on this sort of thing. I think perhaps we'll see these features comoing back to mechanical buttons and knobs over the next few years as its being flagged up a lot in the motoring press. My wifes car is awful for this and one of the reasons she is keen to change it again soon.
So I have conflicting thoughts about this. I don't like that it isn't able to be opened without touching the screen. On the other hand I do like that with valet mode it is locked and that you can set a pin to prevent it from being opened when the vehicle isn't in valet mode.
I can get a 6’2” adult behind me in my Audi A4 quite comfortably. The older BMW 3-Series have a slightly smaller cabin, or that’s how it feels.
This is mine:
Agreed, I think a good compromise would have been a physical button/latch that doesn't work with a valet key. My Range Rover does that.
That is what I'm saying as well. The bigger part referred to the aforementioned A4/3 series and the same size to the A6/5 series
