Also being a concept car it will be very different in production. But it does remind me of the i3. Going lightweight is the way to go for bigger range. Also any car made out of recycled material gets a plus from me.
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Indeed. We are different people with different tastes and views.
Large (wide especially) cars do not work on the country lanes I have to drive on.
Seems like GM is going to remove CarPlay/Android Auto from their EV lineups. I have a feeling this is going to happen more frequently as the EV UI becomes more a part of auto driving. I just don't see a good way to execute auto driving (actual navigation by the vehicle) and keep them going.
I am open to the idea, I just would like to see how it would work, and not take away from the experience.
I am glad that auto manufactures are finally catching up on tech, since they once were years behind cell phones.
I am open to the idea, I just would like to see how it would work, and not take away from the experience.
I am glad that auto manufactures are finally catching up on tech, since they once were years behind cell phones.
I wish the Apple CarPlay and car touchscreen UI engineers would test their user interfaces in actual vehicles, while sitting in the driver seat, with the screen at arm’s length, while the vehicle is moving. I think that many readability issues such as:
Tiny text on Tesla and other car touchscreens
CarPlay maps with gray text on gray streets
are the result of those engineers only working on their interfaces while sitting in front of big computer monitors. I am convinced that these guys don't bother to personally test in actual vehicles under real driving conditions. They don’t seem to realize that the perspective from the driver’s seat is different from the view in front of their big desktop monitors with adjustable zoom level. Not all cars have an option to display larger text on their screens. Of course, some people will try to dismiss the issue by saying: “Just use voice commands” or “You shouldn’t be looking at the screen while driving”.
Tiny text on Tesla and other car touchscreens
CarPlay maps with gray text on gray streets
are the result of those engineers only working on their interfaces while sitting in front of big computer monitors. I am convinced that these guys don't bother to personally test in actual vehicles under real driving conditions. They don’t seem to realize that the perspective from the driver’s seat is different from the view in front of their big desktop monitors with adjustable zoom level. Not all cars have an option to display larger text on their screens. Of course, some people will try to dismiss the issue by saying: “Just use voice commands” or “You shouldn’t be looking at the screen while driving”.
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I find the “next turn” instructions to be the important part of directions while driving. The map itself is secondary and only useful for overall orientation. The instructions to begin the right lane or turn right at ABC street or exist 43B are more important.
I just saw a post from a Tesla driver in our charger forum who could figure out how to get the cable out. Is it true that you can only get the cable out by using the Tesla app or a button in the car?
LOL I bet that is fun when it’s cold, raining hard and you just want to get in. Oops wait I can’t unplug I need to get my phone out to unlock the cable.
Does it not also work actionless via the key?
LOL I bet that is fun when it’s cold, raining hard and you just want to get in. Oops wait I can’t unplug I need to get my phone out to unlock the cable.
Does it not also work actionless via the key?
Not true.
As long as the phone is setup as a key, just need to press the button on the plug and the car should see the phone and unlock the charger and let you unplug.
If you are using a public non-Tesla charger where you have to use the included J1772 or if you are using the CCS adapter, yes, you do have to unlock the charging port in order to remove these adapters, as they lock to the car. The cable doesn’t lock (unless you get a Karen adapter), but the Tesla adapter does. You need to remove the adapter, there’s no way around it.
Tesla charging cables lock into the car, but all you have to do is hit the button on the Tesla charging cable handle to remove the cable.
Most people’s charging with Teslas are at Tesla chargers, or at home using a Tesla branded charger. So this is really a non-issue. You also don’t need to sit there for 10 minutes to “fill a tank” out in the rain/cold/heat. The few times I’ve used a non-Tesla charger, I already had my phone out and unlocked the charging port before even walking up to the car.
This was in the UK. Tesla home chargers aren’t that common. Systems that integrate with solar and/or cheap electricity providers are much more so.
So I guess that would explain it as the plugs wouldn’t have testla unlock buttons as that isn’t part of the standard.
Wait I thought the EU standard for charge plug has locking as a part of the standard (whatever your J1172 equivalent is there). In the states J1172 doesn’t include port locking (so anyone can unplug a charging car).
If the car is locked you can’t unplug an EV. That’s how mine works anyway. If it works differently on a Tesla that’s not very smart.
In NA if using the Tesla plug you cannot unplug a locked car. If using J1172, which is the top part of CCS Type 1 here, you can unplug the cable on a locked car because the cable doesn’t lock to the car because it isn’t a part of the standard here.
Other ways to unlock the Tesla charge port:
If you have a Tesla key fob, press and hold the trunk open button on the fob.
If the charger is plugged in to a power outlet, switching off power to the outlet will unlock the charge port (personal experience)
Finally, there is a manual release cable inside the trunk, if nothing else works.
Most if not all current EVs lock the charge port when the charging connector (or Tesla adapter) is plugged in. I'm not sure if the locking is part of the J1772 standard or if it's something that all EV manufacturers just happen to do. In the cases I've seen where it was possible to unplug a J1772 connector from a locked car, either
1. The latch on the charging cable was broken.
2. Car was set to unlock the charge port when finished charging. Not all cars have this optional setting.
If using a J1772 charger with the Tesla adapter, those do not lock together. Someone can unplug the charger, but they can't take the adapter. To prevent disconnecting the J1772 charger from the Tesla adapter, you would need something like this
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It does, and it does lock to the car as long as the car is charging. Typically there is a button to release, which works in conjunction with a wireless key. So if you don't have the key on you then the button won't do anything. The key can also be a digital key. But no need to open an app or go inside the car to unlock.
I'm just surprised that Tesla won't do that. Doesn't seem handy when its raining or cold to unhook a cable.
On the Polestar with ccs2 when it is locked, I just press the button to unlock (with my phone as key in the pocket), easy, quick and effective.
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Really? I know CCS locks, but I didn't think J1172 did.
The previous generation Toyota Prius Prime had this. Curiously, the RAV4 Prime (and maybe also the new Prius Prime) do not. I also saw a Kia Niro which did not have it. While the smart unlock button is certainly a good thing to have, I'm not sure it's as common among EV's and plugin hybrids as you imply.
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On my Ioniq5 from the car display I can set an option to lock or to not lock my J1772 charging nozzle at home. Both conditions work.
With it set to lock, does the button on the plug unlock the charger, without you having to unlock the car directly?
If you have chargers at work, you can make do with lower amperage at home (or if you have an electric clothes dryer, which you didn't mention, just wire a switch to let that circuit be your charger overnight). Many electric cars can easily handle the 60 mile commute, so there should be no need to charge both at home and at work.
My Model 3 feels a heck of a lot quicker/lighter than my Civic ever was. LOL I know I'm comparing apples to oranges but, the M3 takes corners 2-3x faster than my Civic did. The M3 feels a lot lighter too despite it being a lot heavier (suspension feel, quickness, how it turns, etc).
Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying, lol. I've been in quick cars that can corner really well.
So if you’re taking a corner at 45 in a Civic, your Model 3 can do it at 90? WOW!My Model 3 feels a heck of a lot quicker/lighter than my Civic ever was. LOL I know I'm comparing apples to oranges but, the M3 takes corners 2-3x faster than my Civic did. The M3 feels a lot lighter too despite it being a lot heavier (suspension feel, quickness, how it turns, etc).
Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying, lol. I've been in quick cars that can corner really well.
OK maybe not 2-3x...
. Our Civic sedan ex 2018 couldn't corner worth anything - small all season tires (last gen) probably didn't help either.We have the larger 19' sports tires on our M3 and it takes corners (that the civic would slip on) like nothing. Kinda nice.
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