I'd be curious to know how the others precondition their batteries for fast charging.
Supposedly the Performance 3 will keep the battery warmer for better performance.
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Supposedly the Performance 3 will keep the battery warmer for better performance.
for my 24 Ioniq 5, it preconditions IF I use the onboard nav to get to the DCFC, but as I mentioned before, the 2025 Ioniq 5 presumably has a "button" for that.
Personally, haven't used the onboard nav so for the few times I used DCFC I didn't precondition. That was back in Sep/Oct in SoCal when it was rather warm/hot. Don't know what impact it would have had on my charging sessions, I do recall seeing 240kW top several times on the 350kW charger and like 180ish on the 150kW ones. I remember 1 session that seemed slower than usual but can't remember temperature or anything special about it.
When preconditioning does it use the HVAC system to warm the battery? Do other manufacturers run their inverters inefficiently to help heat the glycol loop?
not sure tbh, in the manual it uses the term "battery system warmer" but it is not clear whether or not that is used for preconditioning, the manual doesn't say anything about preconditioning.
when I was using DCFC it was warm/hot outside so I had AC running, and the energy screen indicated that battery cooling was active.
Thus far I haven't even used the heater in the car for the cabin, SoCal has been too warm and dry
That looks really nice! I don’t believe my car has a physical rear fog light since it was manufactured in California and sold in the USA but it’s possible? Mine is a 2023 Model 3 Long Range so I guess that’s Gen 2. I am not aware of any regen or bias adjustments in the UI. I thought this is for the Performance model only but perhaps I am overlooking them? I don’t think I would reduce regen because I absolutely love one pedal driving. I wish I could make my ICE car do it!
When I first got the car, I used to supercharge every day, but now not so much. I haven’t been to a supercharger in a few months. Did you sit at the supercharger after arriving for a while? Even when I got to the supercharger, it seemed like it was still doing something. This was in warmer weather so it might be different in colder climates. Right now I’m actually using level 1 charging. I wouldn’t recommend it for someone considering an EV but it’s working for me.
If it’s the supercharge, I just set the destination. I don’t precondition for home charging, but I’ve noticed in colder weather. It takes a while to preheat the battery. I am not in a hurry though so it’s not an issue so far. I’ve always been interested in the Model 3 Performance, but the negatives for daily use outweigh the occasional joy I would get from the extremely rare track or deserted road use. If I could afford one as an extra car then it would be fun. I suspect if I was that financially well off, I would go for the Model S Plaid
Under normal circumstances, I would never want non-Tesla chargers to show up in my UI or routing. It would be nice if there was a button to turn it on or off. I don’t know if you live in the USA but here we have Tesla superchargers and everything else. Everything else works about half the time (This may be an exaggeration, but not by much) and it’s not as convenient. Tesla superchargers work about 99.99% of the time and you just plug them in. The last thing I want on a road trip is being stuck at a charging station that doesn’t work and not having enough power to get to the next one. I carry CCS and J1772 adapters, but this is an in case of an emergency thing. I can’t think of a scenario where I would need one, but it’s better to have it rather than not have it and need it.
There are many brands of EV‘s that allow access to the Tesla supercharging network. I always tell people if you’re going to buy an EV make sure it has access. For some non-Tesla vehicles it is my understanding that due to the way they are configured you don’t always get the ideal charging speed at a Tesla supercharger. I didn’t do a lot of research on this because I don’t have one of those vehicles but I know it’s a thing.
You have rear fogs, just no option to turn them on/off in the UI. Tesla has moved to one global part for as many parts as possible. I have a 2021 US TMY LR 7-Seater.
You have a Gen 2 (probably better to say 2.5 as you have the wood trim on the doors, which I don’t have on my Gen 2) interior. Gen 1 is piano black with a flip door for the forward compartment so it won’t work with the S3XY knob. My 2019 TM3 is Gen 1.
You do not have the ability to adjust regen anymore. It was removed to meet the EPa range targets. My understanding is, if there is a setting, it is included in the average range so Tesla removed it. Performance models have them because that mode is not used on the street (off road only).
S3XY commander gives you both these options. Including power bias front/rear.
The preconditioning ended before I reached the SC in my situation. I think it needed to just start later into my route.
I am in NY. I agree, here in the US the only consistent network is Tesla SC. It would be nice if they add 3rd party L3+ to the UI as a separate filter. I would only ever use it in a SC desert.
In a car with the Google AAOS system, you get a filter for the charging networks that you have access to, and also for the speeds that you are interested in. For example, mine is set to show ultra-fast and above only, and also only for Ionity, Fastned and Tesla. Luckily, we have no charger deserts 
. Furthermore, the Google AAOS system knows when you have a home charger, which is great as our UK home is on top of a hill. Otherwise (in combination with the hilly awareness) it will try to redirect or suggest a charger all the time and cause panic. Besides, it cost me only 7 cents per kWh typically, so it is a lot cheaper.
. Furthermore, the Google AAOS system knows when you have a home charger, which is great as our UK home is on top of a hill. Otherwise (in combination with the hilly awareness) it will try to redirect or suggest a charger all the time and cause panic. Besides, it cost me only 7 cents per kWh typically, so it is a lot cheaper.I had a 30+ mile return trip from a store. I needed to get back home, and charge up to 90% as I was going to the airport and leaving my TMY for 10 days. I had about 2 hours before I needed to leave the house when I got home (so not enough to get me up to the 90%, so I planned to stop at a SC close to home and get back up to at lest 70% (I was at 40% at the store). When I got in the car, I found the closest SC location to my house in the UI and started driving. It was around 30 miles from the store to the SC location (its <5 miles from my house).
As soon as I put in the SC destination in the UI, it started preconditioning. By the time I got to the SC it had already stopped and when I plugged in, it gave me the warning on the screen that for optimal charging, set SC as a destination.
It was about 25°F out, so I don’t know if this contributed to the issue, or if it was that I should have entered the SC as a destination once I was closer. Honestly, I don’t know enough about SC’ing, as I have only done it 3 times. Maybe if it was warmer out, the battery wouldn’t have cooled as much between completing SC’ing and arrival???
1. The first time I got my pre-owned TM3 from the Brooklyn service center, about 30 miles from home, I drove to one of the 2 Tesla service centers near my house and used their free SC. This was before my Wall Connecter install the next weekend.
2. I was driving from Long Island NY to the Newark NJ airport (50+ miles with traffic and highways) in my TM3 without heat pump with weather in the 30’s. I set the SC as a destination once I got close to Newark airport, it preconditioned properly and did it’s job.
3. Situation above, in my TMY (with heat pump).
It might be user error, or it might be an area of opportunity for the trip planning. Since I’m very inexperienced with SC’ing, I’m going to assume it was a “you’re doing it wrong” thing.
My understanding is that it works well when you trip plan where it NEEDS to charge within the trip. But my instance I didn’t need to charge to get to my destination so my final destination in the UI was the SC (i.e. it wasn’t a UI selected waypoint).
hey all, so i'd had my name on a waitlist for a silver prius prime, and the other day i got a call from my dealership about a red prime they happened to get on the lot.
also in ontario canada where i live, it was JUST announced that they're pausing the government green vehicle rebate the prime would have qualified for as of this march. so that combined with the seemingly astronomical wait times for new vehicles anymore have me conflicted if i keep waiting and likely end up paying $5000 more down the line, or broaden my color horizons haha.
realistically i know its a personal choice, just curious if anyone else has found themselves in a similar situation and how they handled it 😅
also in ontario canada where i live, it was JUST announced that they're pausing the government green vehicle rebate the prime would have qualified for as of this march. so that combined with the seemingly astronomical wait times for new vehicles anymore have me conflicted if i keep waiting and likely end up paying $5000 more down the line, or broaden my color horizons haha.
realistically i know its a personal choice, just curious if anyone else has found themselves in a similar situation and how they handled it 😅
I nearly always choose red cars. Go for it unless you hate the red.
I personally would not want to pay more when I know I could get it for less. If it was just the color, unless it was a color I hated, I wouldn’t wait.
I got a blue TMY because it was the only pre-owned 7-seater I could find (luckily it came with FSD and Acceleration boost) when I was looking. I didn’t want blue, but I really wanted the 7-seater. I now really like the blue. I definitely don’t like my first choice color enough to pay $5,000 more for it…
When shopping for a pre owned car you start with a wish list.
For me it was leather interior.
Reversing camera
Red, black or grey colour (white at a push).
Adaptive cruise control.
Enhanced HK stereo.
From there you have a price, and mileage you are happy with.
Unfortunately once I showed Mrs AFB the red that was that. She hates blue and the red doesn’t have the blue accents on the outside or interior.
So I ended up travelling to the other end of the country with a pretty weak negotiating hand.
Oh well. Had it three years this May.
We got a Snow White Polestar as the the colour we wanted (and nearly everything else) became back ordered by many months. We wrapped ours anyway 🤣 But I’m glad I made the switch to a brand new white one as shortly there after our awesome full matrix lights were globally out of stock.
How much time do you spend outside looking at your car vs sitting in the car driving? That’s why to me the color is not critical, the outside color that is. And if you can save $$$ now, I’d go for it.
I had a Prius Prime when it first came out in 2017, loved it
I personally think the new Prius is sexy…. They did a fantastic job with the new design.
But I see the joke you made right there!!
It might have been. But typically you put your final destination in, then let it pick the SC for you as needed.
Next time I’ll test it out. But I don’t really need SC’ing much.
Tbh I just had to look one up.
Not really for me. It looks very flat. I like the wheels.
I experienced an EV first (for me) last week...
A Ford Lightning blocking up 2 SC stalls. I could see that being a real drag on a busy day.
A Ford Lightning blocking up 2 SC stalls.
I could see that being a real drag on a busy day.You’ll see that more often as Tesla opens SC up for other manufacturers cause a lot of those do not have the charging port on the rear left, and the cable length does not really support any other location on the vehicle besides the right front I suppose but am not aware of any EV having the charge port in the right frontI experienced an EV first (for me) last week...
A Ford Lightning blocking up 2 SC stalls.
Audi have one front left and right on some models.
Over here (UK) the only Tesla SC open to other manufacturers have longer cables.