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You’ll see that more often as Tesla opens SC up for other manufacturers cause a lot of those do not have the charging port on the rear left, and the cable length does not really support any other location on the vehicle besides the right front I suppose but am not aware of any EV having the charge port in the right front

I could see a lot of resentment from Tesla owners as they should be getting charged an idle fee for the blocked stall.

Dongle anyone?
 
It might have been. But typically you put your final destination in, then let it pick the SC for you as needed.

Next time I’ll test it out. But I don’t really need SC’ing much.
LOL Yes neither do I. Most trips are from and to home. And come to think of it, when you put it like that. I don’t think I’ve ever put a fast charger as the final destination. I’ve always had something else, and just added it as an extra stop.
 
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The new Prius looks even better in person vs the pictures. And they decreased the dangerously slow 0-60 to a much safer 7.2 seconds which was 10.5 before.

I really like what they did…
 
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LOL Yes neither do I. Most trips are from and to home. And come to think of it, when you put it like that. I don’t think I’ve ever put a fast charger as the final destination. I’ve always had something else, and just added it as an extra stop.

I wonder if your polestar will manage it better if you set a L3+ as your actual destination? A destination L3+ that is at least 2x the distance it takes to precondition.
 
I am coming from a 2012 Prius c which seems to offend many people’s sensibilities, but personally it is the exact level of dorkiness that I love :D
Ouch, I had to look that up and can't unsee that one any more. But no, that new Prius Prime looks great. Is it super sonic (aka firemen) red you are getting? Enjoy!
 
I wonder if your polestar will manage it better if you set a L3+ as your actual destination? A destination L3+ that is at least 2x the distance it takes to precondition.
I know from others that it works, it just needs about 15 minutes to get it done. So where it doesn't do it, and is actually the worst-case scenario, is when someone goes from there home, with a cold battery, specifically to charge, and the charger isn't far away. The battery will be far from optimised, and you get endless posts in the groups about how bad the charging is. 🤣🤣

In my experience when doing long distances, it doesn't matter that much either when you've just done 250 miles (ca. 402 km) in one go at like 80mph (ca. 129 km/h), and then decide you need to go to the WC and take the next motorway stop. The battery is warm enough, the state of charge is within the optimum range for the curve, so you still get maximum speeds.
 
I am coming from a 2012 Prius c which seems to offend many people’s sensibilities, but personally it is the exact level of dorkiness that I love :D

I have never had a problem with the old Prius look. I think they just did a fantastic job with the redesign and like it better now!

My sister had the Lexus version. The only thing I had an issue with, was the same reason my sister left that platform and when with a TM3, the 0-60 was dangerously slow. My sister and I live on the Northern East Coast of the US, where you can have very short runways to get onto the highways. You have to be able to get from 0-60 in a very short time to be able to safely merge into the highly congested highways.

My closest entrance to the highway I use daily has about 40-50 feet on ramp onto a 2-lane highway with a narrow overpass at the end of the runway. There are TONS accident here. My wife was always worried with her 250 HP Audi, any of the previous Gen Prius' would have been a dealbreaker.

There is no way for them to easily extend this as it is a series of low narrow bridges. They extended the onramp in the other direction, since there were no obstacles.
 
I know from others that it works, it just needs about 15 minutes to get it done. So where it doesn't do it, and is actually the worst-case scenario, is when someone goes from there home, with a cold battery, specifically to charge, and the charger isn't far away. The battery will be far from optimised, and you get endless posts in the groups about how bad the charging is. 🤣🤣

Sorry, I may be misunderstanding, if so, sorry. I specifically mean selecting a L3+ charger 30 miles away from your point of origin on a cold battery in sub-freezing temperatures. Does Polestar start preconditioning immediately, or does it hold off so that you reach the charger at optimal temperatures?

It is a very narrow use case, I know. But this was the situation that happened to me, it had enough time and cold enough weather to let the batteries get below the optimal fast charging temps by the time I reached the SC station.

In my experience when doing long distances, it doesn't matter that much either when you've just done 250 miles (ca. 402 km) in one go at like 80mph (ca. 129 km/h), and then decide you need to go to the WC and take the next motorway stop. The battery is warm enough, the state of charge is within the optimum range for the curve, so you still get maximum speeds.

This makes sense. The only road trips I have taken so far are within 1 full charge. I have gone to neighboring states and returned. All <300-mile round trip days, so I haven't had to stop to charge.
 
When shopping for a pre owned car you start with a wish list.
For me it was leather interior.
Reversing camera
Red, black or grey colour (white at a push).
Adaptive cruise control.
Enhanced HK stereo.

From there you have a price, and mileage you are happy with.

Unfortunately once I showed Mrs AFB the red that was that. She hates blue and the red doesn’t have the blue accents on the outside or interior.

So I ended up travelling to the other end of the country with a pretty weak negotiating hand.

Oh well. Had it three years this May.
Who knew one ever had to add stalks to one’s wish list.
 
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Sorry, I may be misunderstanding, if so, sorry. I specifically mean selecting a L3+ charger 30 miles away from your point of origin on a cold battery in sub-freezing temperatures. Does Polestar start preconditioning immediately, or does it hold off so that you reach the charger at optimal temperatures?

It is a very narrow use case, I know. But this was the situation that happened to me, it had enough time and cold enough weather to let the batteries get below the optimal fast charging temps by the time I reached the SC station.



This makes sense. The only road trips I have taken so far are within 1 full charge. I have gone to neighboring states and returned. All <300-mile round trip days, so I haven't had to stop to charge.
With Polestar, if it was a 30 minute drive away it would ensure that it’s optimized at the end of the journey. At the destination. It needs about 15 minutes to get to that state. 👍 So in that case it would start optimizing ETA-15minuted.
 
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Who knew one ever had to add stalks to one’s wish list.

Well yes. But as far as I know Tesla are the only company dropping them and they would never make any of my lists anyway.
New Tesla Model Y has got a stalk 🥳🎉

But to be fair, the ones I’ve driven I didn’t miss them at all. The software is really good and manually takes only a few minutes to get used to it. Well I was in an area with a lot of exits and roads and roundabouts so had to use it a lot. In my experience it’s a bigger deal on paper than it is in reality.
 
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New Tesla Model Y has got a stalk 🥳🎉

But to be fair, the ones I’ve driven I didn’t miss them at all. The software is really good and manually takes only a few minutes to get used to it. Well I was in an area with a lot of exits and roads and roundabouts so had to use it a lot. In my experience it’s a bigger deal on paper than it is in reality.

I had a loaner TMX without stalks (it even had a yoke). It took just the drive home from the service center for me to be used to bot the yoke and the lack of stalks.

For those who have never driven a Tesla, Tesla as a UI option called "Auto Cancel" for turn signals. It uses the camera's lane monitoring system to identify when to turn off the indicators, not wheel positioning. Because of this you basically never have to cancel the signal. It will stay on until you need it to turn off, and it will do it automatically. If this wasn't as good as it is, it would be a nightmare without stalks.

I grew up with roundabouts, so I do get the issue with changing the entry direction to the exit direction mid turn. This is an issue. Many owners are used to this and can press the button without issue. But it would take getting used to it.
 
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With Polestar, if it was a 30 minute drive away it would ensure that it’s optimized at the end of the journey. At the destination. It needs about 15 minutes to get to that state. 👍 So in that case it would start optimizing ETA-15minuted.
Do you know what temp it tries getting your battery to?
 
I had a loaner TMX without stalks (it even had a yoke). It took just the drive home from the service center for me to be used to bot the yoke and the lack of stalks.

For those who have never driven a Tesla, Tesla as a UI option called "Auto Cancel" for turn signals. It uses the camera's lane monitoring system to identify when to turn off the indicators, not wheel positioning. Because of this you basically never have to cancel the signal. It will stay on until you need it to turn off, and it will do it automatically. If this wasn't as good as it is, it would be a nightmare without stalks.
Yes I found it a non issues. It’s a bit like with Google or Apple, when you use the services to all in and don’t find it. You’ll enjoy it more.
I grew up with roundabouts, so I do get the issue with changing the entry direction to the exit direction mid turn. This is an issue. Many owners are used to this and can press the button without issue. But it would take getting used to it.
And in reality that shouldn’t be an issue. A roundabout is technically a through road where you follow the road. Only if you switch lanes or exit (always to the right) you indicate. Otherwise there is no need to indicate.
 
And in reality that shouldn’t be an issue. A roundabout is technically a through road where you follow the road. Only if you switch lanes or exit (always to the right) you indicate. Otherwise there is no need to indicate.
Beating the dead horse here...but the vast majority of roundabouts I see in CA are single-lane, or, nobody ever moves to the inner lane...and nobody uses an indicator. You wait your turn and enter, and there is no option...you follow the road. You go around and exit where you like. You have the right away, and you exit right, surprising nobody.

Right or wrong, it means that the lack of stalks is not an issue regarding traffic circles....at least in this part of the world.

Having said that, I do occasionally miss the indicator stalk, most of which could be remedied by simply making the wheel indicator buttons have a distinctive shape or feel for left and right. Still, a very small thing, not enough to NOT buy, drive, or recommend the current Model 3. Honestly, I have more annoyances with the button placement and quirks in my wife's Subaru.
 
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Beating the dead horse here...but the vast majority of roundabouts I see in CA are single-lane, or, nobody ever moves to the inner lane...and nobody uses an indicator. You wait your turn and enter, and there is no option...you follow the road. You go around and exit where you like. You have the right away, and you exit right, surprising nobody.

Right or wrong, it means that the lack of stalks is not an issue regarding traffic circles....at least in this part of the world.

Having said that, I do occasionally miss the indicator stalk, most of which could be remedied by simply making the wheel indicator buttons have a distinctive shape or feel for left and right. Still, a very small thing, not enough to NOT buy, drive, or recommend the current Model 3. Honestly, I have more annoyances with the button placement and quirks in my wife's Subaru.

If you do get interested in adding stalks, there is a 3rd part option. I have also read that you can actually put in an OEM Pre-Highland set of indicators.

 
Beating the dead horse here...but the vast majority of roundabouts I see in CA are single-lane, or, nobody ever moves to the inner lane...and nobody uses an indicator. You wait your turn and enter, and there is no option...you follow the road. You go around and exit where you like. You have the right away, and you exit right, surprising nobody.

Right or wrong, it means that the lack of stalks is not an issue regarding traffic circles....at least in this part of the world.

Having said that, I do occasionally miss the indicator stalk, most of which could be remedied by simply making the wheel indicator buttons have a distinctive shape or feel for left and right. Still, a very small thing, not enough to NOT buy, drive, or recommend the current Model 3. Honestly, I have more annoyances with the button placement and quirks in my wife's Subaru.
Not how it works in the UK.
You enter the 1, 2, 3 or even 4 lane roundabout with your right hand indicator on, unless you are exiting the first turning then you have your left indicator on.

After you pass the turning preceding your you change from a right to a left hand indicator. You may also have to change lans. This lets the people after your turn know it’s safe to enter the roundabout.

With buttons on both sides of the wheel you might have a chance. But just on one side where your wheel is upside down, you are going to struggle.

Yes I’m sure you’d get used to it to a certain extent, but it would not be ideal for sure.
 
With buttons on both sides of the wheel you might have a chance. But just on one side where your wheel is upside down, you are going to struggle.

I think it would become more difficult having the buttons on each side. Having them on one side lest you know that down is right, and up is left. If it was one on each side, it would think it would be harder to figure out which button is which. (Unless you mean duplicate both R & L buttons on each side)

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Not how it works in the UK.
You enter the 1, 2, 3 or even 4 lane roundabout with your right hand indicator on, unless you are exiting the first turning then you have your left indicator on.

After you pass the turning preceding your you change from a right to a left hand indicator. You may also have to change lans. This lets the people after your turn know it’s safe to enter the roundabout.

With buttons on both sides of the wheel you might have a chance. But just on one side where your wheel is upside down, you are going to struggle.

Yes I’m sure you’d get used to it to a certain extent, but it would not be ideal for sure.
Roundabouts in CA are rare and people don’t know how to use them, and, blinkers/indicators sure seem optional here too …
 
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