Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk

[Apple fanboy]

I think it would become more difficult having the buttons on each side. Having them on one side lest you know that down is right, and up is left. If it was one on each side, it would think it would be harder to figure out which button is which. (Unless you mean duplicate both R & L buttons on each side)

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I’d have R & L on both sides. But a stalk works so much better.

 

[JT2002TJ]

I’d have R & L on both sides. But a stalk works so much better.

Ah, I see.

As I had always figured with the robust aftermarket community for Tesla (especially the 3/Y) there is an option to add them on. The 2 major complaints people have with the lack of a dash behind the steering wheel and the Highland lack of stalks can be solved for a not too expensive option.

I know you don't care for getting a TM3, it's just to make others aware.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Beating the dead horse here...but the vast majority of roundabouts I see in CA are single-lane, or, nobody ever moves to the inner lane...and nobody uses an indicator. You wait your turn and enter, and there is no option...you follow the road. You go around and exit where you like. You have the right away, and you exit right, surprising nobody.

Right or wrong, it means that the lack of stalks is not an issue regarding traffic circles....at least in this part of the world.

It is how you should take them in the Netherlands. Using the signals is allowed but not mandatory. I mean once you are on it there is one one way you can exit as you say. Sadly too many don’t use their signal when exiting.

Having said that, I do occasionally miss the indicator stalk, most of which could be remedied by simply making the wheel indicator buttons have a distinctive shape or feel for left and right. Still, a very small thing, not enough to NOT buy, drive, or recommend the current Model 3. Honestly, I have more annoyances with the button placement and quirks in my wife's Subaru.

Agreed

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Not how it works in the UK.
You enter the 1, 2, 3 or even 4 lane roundabout with your right hand indicator on, unless you are exiting the first turning then you have your left indicator on.

After you pass the turning preceding your you change from a right to a left hand indicator. You may also have to change lans. This lets the people after your turn know it’s safe to enter the roundabout.

With buttons on both sides of the wheel you might have a chance. But just on one side where your wheel is upside down, you are going to struggle.

Yes I’m sure you’d get used to it to a certain extent, but it would not be ideal for sure.

If your wheel is upside down then you are likely on what is colloquially called a mini roundabout. Indicating you do before you enter and it will cancel once straighten. That is literally a non issue.

 

[hobowankenobi]

Roundabouts in CA are rare and people don’t know how to use them, and, blinkers/indicators sure seem optional here too …

All generally true.

But in the last few years, they are starting to be a thing. A handful have appeared in my area (Central Coast), and folks get used to them once the novelty wears off.

CA drivers are pretty bad by any measure! But even they (we) can manage 1-2 lane traffic circles without indicators.

 

[hobowankenobi]

Here's proof...CA is different.

Count the use of indicators...and check the shape:

 

[Tagbert]

The new Prius looks even better in person vs the pictures. And they decreased the dangerously slow 0-60 to a much safer 7.2 seconds which was 10.5 before.

I really like what they did…

It’s funny, I had a 1985 VW GTI that felt pretty fast for the time and probably did 0-60 in 10 seconds. That was not considered at all slow at the time. Lots of cars had times in the teens. I just got an Ionic 5 that does that in 4.5 seconds. I wasn’t even trying to get the fast one but they were doing major end of model year sales and all that they had left were AWD.

 

[JT2002TJ]

It’s funny, I had a 1985 VW GTI that felt pretty fast for the time and probably did 0-60 in 10 seconds. That was not considered at all slow at the time. Lots of cars had times in the teens. I just got an Ionic 5 that does that in 4.5 seconds. I wasn’t even trying to get the fast one but they were doing major end of model year sales and all that they had left were AWD.

It is crazy how we have hypercar acceleration these days... My TM3 with AB has a 0-60 3.7 sec and my TMY with AB has a 0-60 of 4.2 sec. I mean, an SUV that can technically fit 7 people with faster 0-60 than vehicles in the $200k price range... Crazy.

The problem is most areas have become considerably more congested since 1985, but the roads have not grown to accommodate (at least in the NY/NJ/CT area). So, if the highway runways have not grown to give you enough area to match oncoming traffic, you need a vehicle that can handle it. There are much smaller gaps to enter with the increased congestion. 10+ seconds 0-60 in my area is dangerous...

 

[diamond.g]

It is crazy how we have hypercar acceleration these days... My TM3 with AB has a 0-60 3.7 sec and my TMY with AB has a 0-60 of 4.2 sec. I mean, an SUV that can technically fit 7 people with faster 0-60 than vehicles in the $200k price range... Crazy.

The problem is most areas have become considerably more congested since 1985, but the roads have not grown to accommodate (at least in the NY/NJ/CT area). So, if the highway runways have not grown to give you enough area to match oncoming traffic, you need a vehicle that can handle it. There are much smaller gaps to enter with the increased congestion. 10+ seconds 0-60 in my area is dangerous...

I'd blame Tesla for EV's being fast for no reason. Well them and folks thinking that EV's were like golf carts and slow.