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I think it would become more difficult having the buttons on each side. Having them on one side lest you know that down is right, and up is left. If it was one on each side, it would think it would be harder to figure out which button is which. (Unless you mean duplicate both R & L buttons on each side)

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I’d have R & L on both sides. But a stalk works so much better.
 
I’d have R & L on both sides. But a stalk works so much better.

Ah, I see.

As I had always figured with the robust aftermarket community for Tesla (especially the 3/Y) there is an option to add them on. The 2 major complaints people have with the lack of a dash behind the steering wheel and the Highland lack of stalks can be solved for a not too expensive option.

I know you don't care for getting a TM3, it's just to make others aware.
 
Beating the dead horse here...but the vast majority of roundabouts I see in CA are single-lane, or, nobody ever moves to the inner lane...and nobody uses an indicator. You wait your turn and enter, and there is no option...you follow the road. You go around and exit where you like. You have the right away, and you exit right, surprising nobody.

Right or wrong, it means that the lack of stalks is not an issue regarding traffic circles....at least in this part of the world.
It is how you should take them in the Netherlands. Using the signals is allowed but not mandatory. I mean once you are on it there is one one way you can exit as you say. Sadly too many don’t use their signal when exiting.
Having said that, I do occasionally miss the indicator stalk, most of which could be remedied by simply making the wheel indicator buttons have a distinctive shape or feel for left and right. Still, a very small thing, not enough to NOT buy, drive, or recommend the current Model 3. Honestly, I have more annoyances with the button placement and quirks in my wife's Subaru.
Agreed
 
Not how it works in the UK.
You enter the 1, 2, 3 or even 4 lane roundabout with your right hand indicator on, unless you are exiting the first turning then you have your left indicator on.

After you pass the turning preceding your you change from a right to a left hand indicator. You may also have to change lans. This lets the people after your turn know it’s safe to enter the roundabout.

With buttons on both sides of the wheel you might have a chance. But just on one side where your wheel is upside down, you are going to struggle.

Yes I’m sure you’d get used to it to a certain extent, but it would not be ideal for sure.
If your wheel is upside down then you are likely on what is colloquially called a mini roundabout. Indicating you do before you enter and it will cancel once straighten. That is literally a non issue.
 
Roundabouts in CA are rare and people don’t know how to use them, and, blinkers/indicators sure seem optional here too …
All generally true.

But in the last few years, they are starting to be a thing. A handful have appeared in my area (Central Coast), and folks get used to them once the novelty wears off.

CA drivers are pretty bad by any measure! :) But even they (we) can manage 1-2 lane traffic circles without indicators.
 
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The new Prius looks even better in person vs the pictures. And they decreased the dangerously slow 0-60 to a much safer 7.2 seconds which was 10.5 before.

I really like what they did…
It’s funny, I had a 1985 VW GTI that felt pretty fast for the time and probably did 0-60 in 10 seconds. That was not considered at all slow at the time. Lots of cars had times in the teens. I just got an Ionic 5 that does that in 4.5 seconds. I wasn’t even trying to get the fast one but they were doing major end of model year sales and all that they had left were AWD.
 
It’s funny, I had a 1985 VW GTI that felt pretty fast for the time and probably did 0-60 in 10 seconds. That was not considered at all slow at the time. Lots of cars had times in the teens. I just got an Ionic 5 that does that in 4.5 seconds. I wasn’t even trying to get the fast one but they were doing major end of model year sales and all that they had left were AWD.

It is crazy how we have hypercar acceleration these days... My TM3 with AB has a 0-60 3.7 sec and my TMY with AB has a 0-60 of 4.2 sec. I mean, an SUV that can technically fit 7 people with faster 0-60 than vehicles in the $200k price range... Crazy.

The problem is most areas have become considerably more congested since 1985, but the roads have not grown to accommodate (at least in the NY/NJ/CT area). So, if the highway runways have not grown to give you enough area to match oncoming traffic, you need a vehicle that can handle it. There are much smaller gaps to enter with the increased congestion. 10+ seconds 0-60 in my area is dangerous...
 
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It is crazy how we have hypercar acceleration these days... My TM3 with AB has a 0-60 3.7 sec and my TMY with AB has a 0-60 of 4.2 sec. I mean, an SUV that can technically fit 7 people with faster 0-60 than vehicles in the $200k price range... Crazy.

The problem is most areas have become considerably more congested since 1985, but the roads have not grown to accommodate (at least in the NY/NJ/CT area). So, if the highway runways have not grown to give you enough area to match oncoming traffic, you need a vehicle that can handle it. There are much smaller gaps to enter with the increased congestion. 10+ seconds 0-60 in my area is dangerous...
I'd blame Tesla for EV's being fast for no reason. Well them and folks thinking that EV's were like golf carts and slow.
 
It is crazy how we have hypercar acceleration these days... My TM3 with AB has a 0-60 3.7 sec and my TMY with AB has a 0-60 of 4.2 sec. I mean, an SUV that can technically fit 7 people with faster 0-60 than vehicles in the $200k price range... Crazy.

The problem is most areas have become considerably more congested since 1985, but the roads have not grown to accommodate (at least in the NY/NJ/CT area). So, if the highway runways have not grown to give you enough area to match oncoming traffic, you need a vehicle that can handle it. There are much smaller gaps to enter with the increased congestion. 10+ seconds 0-60 in my area is dangerous...
I'd blame Tesla for EV's being fast for no reason. Well them and folks thinking that EV's were like golf carts and slow.
It is an interesting one. It now brings straight line speed into the hands of people who would previously never buy a vehicle with such performance. I mean, one could have got a supercharged Rang Rover, or Mercedes-AMG SUV. Or on the cheaper end, a VW Golf R hits those times easily as well. Yet, people predominantly went for the 150Hp or 200Hp versions.

Over here, too many EV drivers seem to be in the traffic light sprint mode. I would get sick and annoyed if I was a passenger. Even sales people when they join you keep going on about it. The Polestar people were just as guilty, and clearly didn't recognize the BMW M2 Competition we used to drive to their space. Talking about which, this picture says it all to me… I probably would add a good car to the right as well.


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It is an interesting one. It now brings straight line speed into the hands of people who would previously never buy a vehicle with such performance. I mean, one could have got a supercharged Rang Rover, or Mercedes-AMG SUV. Or on the cheaper end, a VW Golf R hits those times easily as well. Yet, people predominantly went for the 150Hp or 200Hp versions.

Over here, too many EV drivers seem to be in the traffic light sprint mode. I would get sick and annoyed if I was a passenger. Even sales people when they join you keep going on about it. The Polestar people were just as guilty, and clearly didn't recognize the BMW M2 Competition we used to drive to their space. Talking about which, this picture says it all to me… I probably would add a good car to the right as well.


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Yeah, most EVs lean on the left instead of the right. The EVs that can do the right are usually fantastically expensive (looking at you Taycan GT Weissach pack).

Regardless of driver in this case.
 
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Yeah, most EVs lean on the left instead of the right. The EVs that can do the right are usually fantastically expensive (looking at you Taycan GT Weissach pack).

Regardless of driver in this case.
Yes, although there are some cheaper one's now as well. Apparently Tesla has updated the new Model 3 Performance after some feedback and improved it such that it is now also worthy of the right, but only the updated version of the updated version :p And then there is the Hyundai 5 n which is most definitely worthy. Polestar 2 with Performance Pack and Performance upgrade (caused a lot of confusion in the earlier models), and also the Performance upgrade required an update after some feedback. But of those two the Polestar would be in number 3 position now imho.
 
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Yes, although there are some cheaper one's now as well. Apparently Tesla has updated the new Model 3 Performance after some feedback and improved it such that it is now also worthy of the right, but only the updated version of the updated version :p And then there is the Hyundai 5 n which is most definitely worthy. Polestar 2 with Performance Pack and Performance upgrade (caused a lot of confusion in the earlier models), and also the Performance upgrade required an update after some feedback. But of those two the Polestar would be in number 3 position now imho.

From my understanding it was a software update. So, it should be for all TM3P Highlands. Much like a lot of other EVs, the initial release OS is not as baked as the hardware is. They unleashed more of what was hidden in the hardware.
 
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Conditioning for fast charge question: I am road tripping for work and my Y started to precondition over an hour before getting to the SC, another time it was 45m, is that normal?
 
Conditioning for fast charge question: I am road tripping for work and my Y started to precondition over an hour before getting to the SC, another time it was 45m, is that normal?
I would think if it is really cold outside than an hour might not be out of the ordinary. I wouldn’t worry about it and let the car do its thing.
 
Conditioning for fast charge question: I am road tripping for work and my Y started to precondition over an hour before getting to the SC, another time it was 45m, is that normal?
Yeah, it can vary based on how hot the battery is before it starts. I think they have the system prioritize scavenging heat for the battery from the motors (and cabin AC if it is hot outside) before they run the inverters inefficiently.
 
When driving around Tesla will try to keep the battery between 10C and 30C. When DC charging they bump the temp up to 50C.

I don't know what others have for target temps. I am actually not sure if anyone has pulled that CANBUS info like they have for Tesla (or if it is even on the bus).
 
When driving around Tesla will try to keep the battery between 10C and 30C. When DC charging they bump the temp up to 50C.

I don't know what others have for target temps. I am actually not sure if anyone has pulled that CANBUS info like they have for Tesla (or if it is even on the bus).

With the S3XY commander and app I can see battery temps. I haven't really felt the need, but it is in the app and visible if I go into the app. I usually am on Waze though.
 
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Our first company Tesla - 2022 Model S Long Range is having a wheel tire pressure sensor always on, not going away when driving and we have had it about a month and a half now. Vehicle has about 90,000 KM. Tires have been checked normally and are fine, so it is something wrong with the TPMS. Anyone have this before or know of how to reset or fix this?
 
Our first company Tesla - 2022 Model S Long Range is having a wheel tire pressure sensor always on, not going away when driving and we have had it about a month and a half now. Vehicle has about 90,000 KM. Tires have been checked normally and are fine, so it is something wrong with the TPMS. Anyone have this before or know of how to reset or fix this?

There was a recall (OTA software update), but this was for the light not staying on between drive cycles when it should remain on.

But it sounds like you are having an issue with one of the TPMS sensors, or possibly the unit. When you touch the light does it tell you which wheel it is? Usually touching the warnings gives you more details.

Also, if you go to the Car Icon/Service/Notifications it may give you more info.
 
TPMS sensors do occasionally go bad in any type of car.

And fortunately it's not an expensive part. Probably around 30 euros or something (VAT included). Should be a lot cheaper in the USA.
 
The TPMS on mine (not a Tesla) has gone bad twice now. I'd be in favor of removing them since they serve no real purpose except to go bad, as far as I can tell. I mean, it's fairly obvious when a tire needs more air anyway. The last time I just left it because it's not worth fixing. Although when the car was inspected, they fixed it anyway even though I didn't mention it, and they didn't say anything either (or charge anything).
 
If you have run flats it's not obvious at all when they are out of air.
You can have zero pressure and it's not noticeable.
If find them convenient to remember when to top all tires and to find those slow punctures.
And for a lot of people those are probably the only way to get them to take care of their tires.
 
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