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Who is returning their MBP Pro/Max 14/16?
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If you're giving up because of its looks, you shouldn't buy it anyway. Did you buy it without seeing it?
Pre-Rona, I traveled 250,000 butt in seat miles a year (at least) and always travel with a single bag (26l backpack). For me weight is important as I try to keep my one bag under 20lbs total. That said, I also value power...the 14 inch I ordered is a nice sweetspot.Sometimes weight is a VERY important factor depending on what you do, and thick/thin follows from that. I know the exec's that travel that I buy laptops for always want as light a machine as they can get, but they also want it to be fast enough. We have been buying Lenovo's and IBM's before that in the thin and light category. (X1 Carbons currently)
I myself want as light a machine I can get when I travel and I'll put up with it being slower to get it. So I get an X1 Carbon (from the company) as well. Now for home, give me as much speed as possible, and weight and battery life isn't an issue.The X1 is half a pound lighter than my M1 Air...
I also have an HP tablet thingie from work which is super light, but also super-useless and slow. I probably would have been happy with an M1 MBA, but the 14 incher seems to be a decent size/weight for travel + with having been stuck home for over a year now, the travel-centric part of my brain has atrophied.
MacBook Pro is for just as the name suggests PRO’s who don’t give two shi** about what their work tool looks like.
Personally I don’t like the look of the MBP and I can’t justify the cost of it either but it’s quite obviously not a tool I need for my use case.
If you want something that ‘looks’ good and that is of primary importance then your in the form over function category and most likely more on the consumer end.. in which case a MBA, entry MBP with Touch Bar or the iMac 24” is probably better suited.
Too many people feel that they ‘NEED’ the best that apple has to offer but with Apples M series of chips that just is not the case anymore…
Any M1 Mac is perfect for about 95% of users, the MacBook Pro, High end Mac Mini, Larger iMac are for the 5% of users that need those Pro level types of devices.
I can only imagine the amount of consumers buying MBP’s costing $2000, $3000 even $5000 just for the bragging rights of owning the device without ever having an actual use case for the amount of performance these tools will provide and literally using it to watch YouTube, Netflix, and surf some social media… it’s quite laughable really is.
Personally I don’t like the look of the MBP and I can’t justify the cost of it either but it’s quite obviously not a tool I need for my use case.
If you want something that ‘looks’ good and that is of primary importance then your in the form over function category and most likely more on the consumer end.. in which case a MBA, entry MBP with Touch Bar or the iMac 24” is probably better suited.
Too many people feel that they ‘NEED’ the best that apple has to offer but with Apples M series of chips that just is not the case anymore…
Any M1 Mac is perfect for about 95% of users, the MacBook Pro, High end Mac Mini, Larger iMac are for the 5% of users that need those Pro level types of devices.
I can only imagine the amount of consumers buying MBP’s costing $2000, $3000 even $5000 just for the bragging rights of owning the device without ever having an actual use case for the amount of performance these tools will provide and literally using it to watch YouTube, Netflix, and surf some social media… it’s quite laughable really is.
If this isn't trolling then I don't know what is....haven't seen it in person or held it but already complaining and want to return it.
Oh, you can eyeball it alright! Brian Tong has a good comparison of the size of the two 16s. The new 16 dominates the previous Intel 16.
Chokyness? As long as there is a safe word...
I agree it may be an important factor but the primary factor? More curiously if it were the primary factor why would anyone have purchased a system which didn't meet this criteria and then return it?Sometimes weight is a VERY important factor depending on what you do, and thick/thin follows from that. I know the exec's that travel that I buy laptops for always want as light a machine as they can get, but they also want it to be fast enough. We have been buying Lenovo's and IBM's before that in the thin and light category. (X1 Carbons currently)
I myself want as light a machine I can get when I travel and I'll put up with it being slower to get it. So I get an X1 Carbon (from the company) as well. Now for home, give me as much speed as possible, and weight and battery life isn't an issue.
Same here. I traveled a lot pre-Rona as well and weight is important. I don't like back packs so it's a Tom Bihn shoulder bag for me.
I have an iPad Pro which is great as a mobile device and second screen when traveling. I bought an M1 Air and really like it but man the 14" that came today is really nice. Only reason it goes back is because I want more cores.
it's really not that difficult to be sure you want/need something before buying. fair enough if there's a legitimate reason to return but judging by the amount of "I'm returning" posts, there's people that seem to be in the habit of just purchasing products to try them out knowing they can be returned if they don't like it, without fully considering the decision. can ya'll just stop?
the form factor is clear from the photos and if that bothers you that much, this professional tool was not designed for you. go purchase your MacBook Air.
I think I speak for any professional that has been using a MacBook Pro from 2016 onwards, they're absolutely cheering for the design changes.
the form factor is clear from the photos and if that bothers you that much, this professional tool was not designed for you. go purchase your MacBook Air.
I think I speak for any professional that has been using a MacBook Pro from 2016 onwards, they're absolutely cheering for the design changes.
Tom Bihn for the win!! I actually have a Tom Bihn Synik 30 I got during the pandemic and will be posting a review of. It is one of the main reasons I went for the 14 inch size (besides weight) because my 16 inch 2019 work Macbook pro won't fit in the laptop compartment. I've had lots of Tom Bihn bags in the past as well as RedOxx and love their stuff. The Tom Bihn Tri-star was my go-to for a while. Lower back issues made me abandon the shoulder bag concept and revert to dedicated backpacks though.
For the most part though I travel with a Goruck GR1 26L... which has a great laptop compartment which can accommodate pretty much anything. That bag is pretty heavy on its own however. I love that it even fits on the A-side overheads in United's ERJ-175s in rows 1-4. That is a perfect spot since nobody ever uses it... but is tiny.
For the execs I buy for, yep. When I ask them what they want, that's what they say first.
They don't even care about which processor and RAM. (I expect they don't think I'd do them wrong) They're still fairly young, so the size of the screen isn't an issue. I'm not so young, but I had my eyes tuned for the distance to a computer screen when I had my cataract surgery.
That I don't understand either. When I buy a laptop, it usually fits what I want (or whatever the user wants). The M1 MBA was my only mistake, but that was a personal machine, not for work, and I didn't return it. I just don't use it it very much. I should have got the MBP for the active cooling, even though it was heavier.
These executives don't care if the system does what they need it to do? Just that it's thin?
The post you’re quoting didn’t even say weight, they said thick/thin.Sometimes weight is a VERY important factor depending on what you do, and thick/thin follows from that. I know the exec's that travel that I buy laptops for always want as light a machine as they can get, but they also want it to be fast enough. We have been buying Lenovo's and IBM's before that in the thin and light category. (X1 Carbons currently)
I myself want as light a machine I can get when I travel and I'll put up with it being slower to get it. So I get an X1 Carbon (from the company) as well. Now for home, give me as much speed as possible, and weight and battery life isn't an issue.
Not thin, light, and from what they say, yep.
And like I said, I think they expect me not to get something that wouldn't do the job.
I have the MBP 13" M1 and I really like it. So far (knocking on wood) it has handle what I thrown at it (FCPX, Motion, Photoshop, and other Applications) though I'm mostly do Photoshop and Web Development on it. Granted it isn't going to b e as fast and I can't have 20 apps open at one time (OK, I'm exaggerating a little), but I don't work for a company or on any time constraints. I always have my iMac Pro to fall back on if I have something that needs to be done quicker or this computer can't handle (which I haven't found so far). I think people who start these kinds of threads are just looking for an excuse not to buy one or return one.
This thread wins the Fishrrman "troll thread of the day" award...!
Fast and bulbous?
That's right, The Mascara Snake!
Bulbous, also tapered!
That's right, The Mascara Snake!
Bulbous, also tapered!
Design from 2012? You're complaining that the first major redesign since 2008's unibody MBP somehow looks more outdated than a 13 year old design? That's rich. These machines look really cool to me, definitely my favorite laptop design since the Titanium powerbook. I'd probably buy one just for the looks even if I didn't want the performance
IMO all the Macintosh laptops have used the same basic design since the first unibody was produced. Sure there have been slight changes and size but they can all essentially trace their design back to the first unibody. Maybe even to the first Titaniums if you want to expand the differences a little.
Returning / selling mine. I bought it out of excitement of a new model, but realized in the interim that I am not a Pro user. I will continue to use my 12" Retina MacBook until the new MacBook Air (MacBook?) comes out.
Apple needs a top end model that prioritizes design like the original MacBook Air. I am not a stickler on price, but I want something beautiful and small. If the new MacBook Air is a non wedge design, there's room to retake the wedge as the top end consumer model.
Apple needs a top end model that prioritizes design like the original MacBook Air. I am not a stickler on price, but I want something beautiful and small. If the new MacBook Air is a non wedge design, there's room to retake the wedge as the top end consumer model.
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I wonder whether Captain Beefheart and Frank Zappa had prescient knowledge of laptop design?