You certainly made very good points here but in fairness that practice of try and return no questions asked is pushed by Apple staff on the phone and in retail all the time. Customers take them up on it.
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Who is returning their MBP Pro/Max 14/16?
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You certainly made very good points here but in fairness that practice of try and return no questions asked is pushed by Apple staff on the phone and in retail all the time. Customers take them up on it.
No way people will scale back to be "reasonable" and apple is making too much money to care about environment.
They built the airpods which will be the #1 pollutant in not so distant future. Gazillions of tiny batteries that nobody cares about.
if aesthetics was all it took for you to cancel your order why were you buying this machine in the first place exactly?
Genuinely curious if they could have made these MBPs a little thinner/sleeker without giving up its power.
Someone might have pointed this out already, but the 2019 16" MBP (which I own) is 0.64" thick (source: Apple). The new 16" (which I ordered and arrives in 3 days) is 0.66" (source: Apple).
2019 specs: https://support.apple.com/kb/SP809?locale=en_US
So that's only 0.5mm ... seems negligible? And possibly imperceptible?
The new 16" is only half a millimeter thicker.
Why are you trying to suppress someone’s opinion about the design language of these new MBPs? Maybe the mods should ban you.
No disagreement but have you seen comparisons in video reviews? Definitely not imperceptible.
I almost pulled the trigger, but for my own needs, the M1 MBA has been great. If work wants to get me a MBP, I wouldn't say no. Even then, I'm not a creative pro, so I don't really need the XDR display and many of the other fancy features. I play games a lot less than I used to, and I'll probably just pick up one of the new consoles if/when I can.
I think that on balance, the new design is a net win. It's a tiny bit thicker and heavier, but has more ports and will have even better cooling, which is likely more important for the target audience.
I think that on balance, the new design is a net win. It's a tiny bit thicker and heavier, but has more ports and will have even better cooling, which is likely more important for the target audience.
Yes, but this one's over the top. He hasn't even seen it in real life.
My 2018 13" MBP had the USB ports on one side die last week. It's on its way back to me for free (AppleCare) and I'm pretty sure I'm going to find it a new home. That has been my least favorite MacBook ever. I stopped at a local Apple Store today. They had ten or so of most of the new 14" and 16" MBPs and I left with the 10-16-1tb 14" MBPs. It's obviously very early but I do not think I'll be returning it.
Offtopic much? Guess what, there are only 300 million of you out of a total of 8 billion people.
Eventually you will also learn to use the far more convenient metric system, like everyone else.....
My strong assumption: The reason for this is because of these new feet. They are far more pronounced, and when people place both models next to other on a table, those feet lift the new models by around 2mm in addition. Actually people should do this comparison with the models laying on their "back". And then make photos from a perfect 90° side angle.
Again, it's mostly an optical illusion. And a matter of perspective: For 2012-2015 Retina owners like me, those new models ain't too thick. The messed up 2016-2019 models were simply too thin. I never heard any complaints about the first Retina generation being too thick or too heavy, there was zero need to "(we) made them even thinner"
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yeah this was a major chassis change lol, if M1 reg is an indicator it'll be 1.5yr between processor updates as well.
With that said the 2018-2019 the 15 to 16" and the various gpu updates with the intel macs probably soured at lot of early adopters so i get why people are nervous about being early.
With that said the 2018-2019 the 15 to 16" and the various gpu updates with the intel macs probably soured at lot of early adopters so i get why people are nervous about being early.
I find it fascinating that these troll clickbait threads always seem to make it to the top of this forum. I guess it’s just the way of the internet these days. It seems like it’s impossible to look away when we see a thread like this, isn’t it? I fell for it and am here responding.
Of course, I think we would be happier if we didn’t feed the trolls. But this is entertainment I guess.
More adviews for MacRumors is a positive at least, as I like to see them supported.
Of course, I think we would be happier if we didn’t feed the trolls. But this is entertainment I guess.
More adviews for MacRumors is a positive at least, as I like to see them supported.
I had one of the M1 MBAs for 13 days when they first came out and really wanted to keep it. I would actually say it's one of my most favorite MacBooks, even though I didn't keep it. It was like a grown-up version of the 12" MB which I loved in spite of its limitations. The display panel in the MBA just didn't quite make it for me.
The other thing about the M1 MBA (which I looked at again this morning) is that it starts to look a little pricey when you compare it to the base 14" MBP.
Random observation: I think the 13" MBP is officially past its useful life as a part of the Mac laptop line. The MBA is super portable. The 16" is obviously the B52 of MacBooks, in more than one way. But the 13" simply isn't that much smaller or lighter than the 14" *in real life." I spent a lot of time with the two side by side and even on top of one another this morning. Price would be the only reason to buy a 13" and you don't get what you don't pay for if you go with the 13".
Yes on the early-adopter exposure. I am telling myself that the risk is reduced by the fact that the base M1 is a couple of years old. Hope I'm right!
Honestly, the photos and the videos that were floating around before this past Monday were pretty limited and it was hard to get a better sense of how it looked, especially in comparison to prior MBPs. I cancelled when I was saw this video. I know I’m part of the minority of folks who really care about the design and sadly I cant seem to get over it.
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The reviews released on Monday are from professional Apple shillers. They all had nothing critical to say. Absolute sheep.
I get your point, but there is very little real data available until well after launch. There were no reliable benchmarks, for example. I did my research and liked the base model, I'm now testing to see if I really need the 2 more cores. It clearly is faster than my M1 Air, and the higher premium to go with the Pro Max chip isn't worth it for me; however I'm on the fence over the extra $180 for the next step up in processor speed from the base.
Not really. MBP 16" is half a pound heavier and looks chunkier than Lenovo Legion Slim 7 that fits a 3060 dGPU and two NVMe SSD slots for 16TB storage (currently available 8TB x 2). I prefer the centered keyboard/trackpad without numpad on the MBP though.
I think someone needs to start a betting pool for how quickly the first "Who is returning product X?" thread appears whenever a new product ships. As the jazz great Jelly Scroll Morton said, "I hated it before I even ordered it, so I immediately sent it back."
Advertised 8 hours of battery life but every report I've seen clocks it in between 5-7 hours. Woohoo.Not really. MBP 16" is half a pound heavier and looks chunkier than Lenovo Legion Slim 7 that fits a 3060 dGPU and two NVMe SSD slots for 16TB storage (currently available 8TB x 2). I prefer the centered keyboard/trackpad without numpad on the MBP though.