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Will you leave the Apple ecosystem because of CSAM?
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Ok, that was funny
But Siri did come in handy from time-to-time. E.g.: At bedtime: "Hey, Siri. Turn off all lights, please." Now, instead, I have to bring up the Lutron app and hit "all lights off." Not a big deal, but the voice command was handy. And kind of cool
So much did it amuse me I'd been this >< close to buying some HomePod Minis. In fact I'd purchased a pair, but they got sent back because the shipper bungled the delivery. Then, before I could get around to getting over to the local Apple Store to buy a pair, Apple did what Apple did and that was the end of that.
That’s not an ROI. $$$$
There are too many ways to get around this.
If Apple was really concerned about CSAM, they would be scanning iCloud Photos.
Apple has put a lot of work into this solution: man-hours.
And, again: That argument, on its own, does not fly. They could achieve the same result scanning on the server end. "But... but... but... E2EE!" you cry. Problem with that argument is we've seen no indication whatsoever Apple has any plans to implement E2EE for photos and, in fact, has been backing-off plans they had to do E2EE.
Even if one doesn't buy the slippery slope arguments, a curious mind would be inclined to wonder "What is moving them to do this this way?" None of the explanations or justifications I've seen pass the smell test.
"There's something happening here. But what it is, ain't exactly clear." -- For What It's Worth, Buffalo Springfield
Well they do half the time anyway since Siri on the HomePod mini sucks.
Make a bunch of people quit using iCloud so they don’t have to build another data center.
Build another data center? They're not using their own data centers, anyway:
Full article: How to find out where Apple stores your iCloud data (spoiler: you can’t exactly)
TBH: Before this whole CSAM brouhaha, I did not know this! I do now. Just another nail in the iCloud coffin, for me.
This has been one of my major questions since the announcement. On its own, this function for CSAM makes little sense.
Enhance! Google researchers detail new method for upscaling low-resolution images with impressive results
Google might just be turning CSI's laughable 'Enhance!' scenes into a reality.
www.dpreview.com
If the hashes are able to be decoded into 26x26 thumbnails as mentioned before, I really don't want that hash database anywhere near my devices.
Enhance! Google researchers detail new method for upscaling low-resolution images with impressive results
Google might just be turning CSI's laughable 'Enhance!' scenes into a reality.
If the hashes are able to be decoded into 26x26 thumbnails as mentioned before, I really don't want that hash database anywhere near my devices.
Technically turning all the iPhone, iPad, and MB owners into criminals (at least in the US).
That’s is some serious food for thought.
Is there evidence that the hashes can be turned into pictures?Enhance! Google researchers detail new method for upscaling low-resolution images with impressive results
Google might just be turning CSI's laughable 'Enhance!' scenes into a reality.
If the hashes are able to be decoded into 26x26 thumbnails as mentioned before, I really don't want that hash database anywhere near my devices.
Why should we leave the forum? There are a lot of interesting discussions here.
The Big Bad Government might be reading this forum. You better go before you end up in a CIA Black Site
Yes, there is someone credible who claims the photoDNA hash can be reversed, contrary to Microsoft's claims.
Previous post here: #97
The slippery slope theory is what is making us afraid of CSAM. But I would not like to be living in Hong Kong or Taiwan and using an iPhone these days.
Apple doesn’t use PhotoDNA and the database on the iPhone has strong encryption on it
But Apple is getting the CSAM hashes from the NCMEC which apparently does.
We could never know for sure before either.
You can't really have complete control of a device which is controlled by one company from the lowest hardware level through the operating system to the user interface. And most of the code from firmware to the operating system is closed code also.
At some level you have to trust Apple or you can't use their products and services.
I'm also not worried about the CSAM Detection System even in the future. There are technologies already in iOS today which are much more worrisome with regards to privacy and are much easier to misuse with small changes for surveillance.
Well, that was a lame attempt at humor. No, I am not concerned about the big bad government, but also, I don't blindly trust everything. The government is made up of human beings, who are as flawed and prone to mistakes as any other human. The whole point of our government is that they can be challenged and they are not above being questioned.
Enhance! Google researchers detail new method for upscaling low-resolution images with impressive results
Google might just be turning CSI's laughable 'Enhance!' scenes into a reality.
If the hashes are able to be decoded into 26x26 thumbnails as mentioned before, I really don't want that hash database anywhere near my devices.
No it's not. It's important to know that the hashing function is not running on the image itself or the pixels of the image.
NCMEC gets the software from Apple which is necessary to generate the NeuralHashes. NCMEC generates the hashes using this software and sends the hash list to Apple.
Can you link to proof of that?
If they are this would answer a couple of technical questions.
But that would also mean that all their services Apple is getting hashes from are also using Apple supplied software for hash creation?
That just sounds doubtful.
HomeKit was, I think, the first to go. Only things in it were the Lutron Caséta lighting and Rachio irrigation systems. All it was really useful for was "Hey, Siri" control, and that was always erratic to non-functional via my Watch, anyway. So no big loss.
I'm down to 1GB
Never used it, thank heavens.
Still using the AirPods (non-Pro). Almost bit on the Pro. Now very glad I did not. Thinking of picking up a pair of the Anker AirPod-like earbuds.
While I'm still working on a few accessories, most of the main stuff has standalone apps that work well. The IKEA accessories only work on the local network which is fine (who needs to open or close window blinds when not home?), but the Belkin Wemo switches work over the internet, too, which allows me to save energy with my new computer setup. I built up an old desktop as my main machine that I remote control to access and work on files, completely eliminating the need for cloud storage, syncing software, and flash drives. If the connection craps out in the middle of something, everything stays put on the desktop until I can reconnect. Siri on the Watch and HomePod mini kinda sucks, but it does work surprisingly well on my 2018 HomePods. Funny story, this is the second time I had to write this post as one of my mini's misheard a command and, instead of turning off the kitchen lights, it shut off everything in my office, including my computer.
I meant the storage plans, but actual usage is targeted for 0 KB.
I've been playing with Spotify, and I must say that their handoff feature works way better than Apple's. All devices running Spotify control whichever one is playing, and audio can be transferred nearly instantly with only a slight hiccup in playback (actually a half-second repeat so no part of the song is missed). I'm thinking that Spotify will replace Apple Music for background playback and music discovery, but I'll still have a library of owned music.
While the Pros offer very little in sound quality or sonic range over EarPods or AirPods, the noise cancellation turns them into wonderful hearing protection. I've used them a few times for this specifically. I'll use them until they wear out, and then investigate replacements. So glad I didn't go for the Max. I recently tested a pair of Bose audio-sunglasses and was impressed by the sound quality. They might be my next step once the Pros and my regular sunglasses give out, but that depends on the device(s) I'll be using when that happens. My iPod nano doesn't have Bluetooth.
Sadly, I was disappointed to learn that Macs don't integrate as well as I'd hoped. iMessage, Facetime, Photos, and AirPrint are fantastic, but that's about it. What I'm finding is it doesn't take much to integrate Windows 10 once you break Apple's cage. After years of supporting a Windows-only environment, I wanted stuff that all worked together and was easy. Problem is, I'm still a bit of a power user and kept hitting brick walls keeping the Mac, iPhone, and iPad all in harmony. With my photo library, I'm about at the point where my MacBook is out of space. I was quickly getting to the point of having to trim my music library to keep things going, but with my desktop, it's easy to throw another drive in and quickly add storage. It's also not too much hassle to upgrade the main drive to something bigger. The MacBook would require dumping the photo library completely to iCloud or a complete computer replacement. Since I'm no longer using iCloud photos, there's little reason to continue using Mac Photos, so everything has been exported to my Sandisk Ibi, where I can interact with the actual files and view them on anything without taking up disk space on my computer.
Given my experience and what seems to be Apple's direction, I foresee the iPad absorbing MacOS, and the product line to eventually just be iPad+iCloud, iPhone, Apple Watch. There isn't much difference between an iPad Pro and a MacBook Pro outside of the OS itself. Heck, the Mac mini developer units were iPad Pro SoCs.
Also the neuralhash function hidden in ios14 has already been partially compromised.
Working Collision? · Issue #1 · AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX
Can you verify that these two images collide? Here's what I see from following your directions: $ python3 nnhash.py NeuralHash/model.onnx neuralhash_128x96_seed1.dat beagle360.png 59a34eabe31910abf...
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