Windows 11

[maflynn]

I gave up watching it, even on my iPad is just hung at one point.

I like what I saw, and I'm eager to get my hands on the beta (at least in a vm) but I'll wait and see what the recap has to offer.

 

[TopherMan12]

They did not mention system requirements. If they are going to require. TPM 2.0 that’s is going to leave billions of capable computers unsupported.

System requirements:

Windows 11's minimum system requirements are as follows:

• A modern 64-bit processor
• 1Ghz clock speed
• 2 cores
• 64GB drive
• 4GB RAM
• UEFI, Secure Book capable & TPM 2.0
• 9-inch display with 1366x768 resolution
• DirectX 12 compatible graphics / WDDM 2.x

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-announcement

 

[diamond.g]

I gave up watching it, even on my iPad is just hung at one point.

I like what I saw, and I'm eager to get my hands on the beta (at least in a vm) but I'll wait and see what the recap has to offer.

My Surface Pro 3 is on the (slow) insiders track. Maybe I'll switch to the fast ring on it.

 

[raqball]

I was able to watch it, issue free, on the Engadget YouTube feed... I started watching it on a different feed but had massive buffering issues...

I'm excited for it... I think it looks leaps and bounds better than 10 and I like many of the other additions and changes.. I am a pretty basic home user (web, email, light video and photo editing, office docs, etc) though..

 

[raqball]

TPM 2.0 and DX12 minimum and the storage requirement went up to 64GB.

The minimum requirements are listed on the official MS page. There is also a tool on that page that you can download to check if the PC is Win 11 compatible...

Meet Windows 11: Features, Look, Benefits & More | Microsoft

Meet Windows 11, the newest Windows version from Microsoft. Upgrade your PC to Windows 11, or explore which devices come equipped with Windows 11 features.

www.microsoft.com

 

[eclipse01]

i was crossing my fingers with some sort of Mac/IOS integration (i know...wishful thinking), Would love to have seen messages on PC

 

[robotica]

They only ever made a version 1.x for my motherboard. I doubt the gigabyte would be willing to make a 2.0 one and update the bios for support for a 6 year old mobo.
Correct me if I am wrong but I think this is something that requires bios support. I don’t think someone can make a TPM 2.0 PCI express card?

 

[grmlin]

Isn't the TPM requirement a HUGE issue for many users on older PCs?

 

[mi7chy]

Wake me up in 2022.

When will I be able to upgrade to Windows 11 on my Windows 10 device?

If your existing Windows 10 PC is running the most current version of Windows 10 and meets the minimum hardware specifications it will be able to upgrade to Windows 11. The upgrade rollout plan is still being finalized, but for most devices already in use today, we expect it to be ready sometime in early 2022.

 

[AutomaticApple]

I was able to watch it, issue free, on the Engadget YouTube feed... I started watching it on a different feed but had massive buffering issues...

I'm excited for it... I think it looks leaps and bounds better than 10 and I like many of the other additions and changes.. I am a pretty basic home user (web, email, light video and photo editing, office docs, etc) though..

Nobody has mentioned the massive changes to the Microsoft Store? It literally opens up the door to Google Chrome and every other traditional win32 application without even needing to be packaged or use Microsoft's update system or give them a tax.

 

[maflynn]

Nobody has mentioned the massive changes to the Microsoft Store?

That's been something that MS has been talking for a while, its not a windows 11 specific thing, per say, but its something we've been waiting for for some time. MS is hoping it will revitalize the store.

 

[AutomaticApple]

That's been something that MS has been talking for a while

They haven't even mentioned it once until today. The Microsoft Store was sort of just left to sit there for years, up until now.

its not a windows 11 specific thing, per say, but its something we've been waiting for for some time.

Where did you see that it's also coming to Windows 10?

MS is hoping it will revitalize the store.

The floodgates have been opened. It will almost certainly revitalize the Microsoft Store.

 

[maflynn]

They haven't even mentioned it once until today.

Microsoft is building a new app store for Windows 10 in major revitalization effort

 

[AutomaticApple]

Microsoft is building a new app store for Windows 10 in major revitalization effort

That was a leak before we even knew about the Windows 11 name.

 

[maflynn]

That was a leak before we even knew about the Windows 11 name.

I never said MS officially announced it. The chatter has been going on for months regarding the revamped store.

 

[polyphenol]

Isn't the TPM requirement a HUGE issue for many users on older PCs?

Doesn't that also rather make it difficult for virtualisation as well? And even the theoretical possibility of Bootcamp?

 

[TopherMan12]

Isn't the TPM requirement a HUGE issue for many users on older PCs?

It is going to be a huge issue for some of us with newer PCs as well. I built my PC less than two years ago and I ran the app to check and see if it meets the requirements for Windows 11.

Nope. Seems I have to buy a TPM module for my motherboard such as this one:

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GC-TPM20-SPI-20#ov

Edit: This might be a BIOS setting. Checking...

Edit 2: Nope. Bios says security device not found under TPM.

What a joke.

 

[TopherMan12]

And I just read that Direct Storage will be exclusive to Windows 11. sigh

 

[Kung gu]

The TPM 2.0 requirement makes all older windows PCs don’t get windows 11. That’s like Apple saying only T2 enabled macs can get macOS 12 which thankfully Apple did not do.

 

[Nermal]

There is also a tool on that page that you can download to check if the PC is Win 11 compatible...

A tool that you're going to run once, that can't be run standalone and needs to be installed. It also offers to set up a desktop icon. This is so Microsoft...

Edit: And it refused to check my work PC, instead telling me to ask my IT department.

 

[diamond.g]

It is going to be a huge issue for some of us with newer PCs as well. I built my PC less than two years ago and I ran the app to check and see if it meets the requirements for Windows 11.

Nope. Seems I have to buy a TPM module for my motherboard such as this one:

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GC-TPM20-SPI-20#ov

Edit: This might be a BIOS setting. Checking...

Edit 2: Nope. Bios says security device not found under TPM.

What a joke.

What motherboard and what CPU do you have?

 

[grmlin]

That does not sound like something Microsoft will require when it’s released.

 

[TopherMan12]

What motherboard and what CPU do you have?

Gigabyte Aorus X570 Master and Ryzen 7 3700X

But I just found the fTPM setting and enabled it. Now the health check says I'm good to go with Windows 11. Glad too because I have a PCIe 4.0 1TB NVMe SSD that will work great with Direct Storage.

 

[mxrider88]

The window snapping is phenomenal, apple start your photocopiers.. and start taking notes too..

When you try to use the split screen on a Mac and you can’t select the window you want because it is on another space is getting me screaming.

 

[mi7chy]

Seems like mobile devices already have TPM 2.0 enabled like on my Surface Pro X and Lenovo Yoga 6. On my desktop, it's part of AMD PSP with fTPM disabled by default in BIOS. After enabling fTPM then running TPM.MSC from Windows it shows TPM 2.0 so all good. I'll check a few older 2000 era devices to see what they report.

2007 HP desktop
No TPM but has header for add-on TPM module but no UEFI anyway.

2008 Thinkpad x200
TPM 1.2 and no UEFI.

Guess these older devices are stuck on Windows 10 until 2025 or whenever security updates stop then possibly switch to Linux.