Windows 11

[AutomaticApple]

Very strange that their own surface studio 2 will not support win11
Can wait for the arm win11 to try it

Expect the first preview build to drop today. We can only hope that Microsoft will provide clarification regarding the minimum requirements and whether or not the ones listed are "soft floor" requirements or not.

Well, this is a weird thing.
I have Windows 10 installed under Bootcamp.
I have a copy of Windows 11 installed via WinToUSB on a USB 3 Flash drive.
Both are connected to the same Outlook email account.
Now, when I boot into Win10 Bootcamp, after booting up, the task bar icons (except for Start and Search) are center-aligned.

That sounds like a weird bug. Were some system files possibly replaced when you booted up the computer?

I had a windows phone for a while, and I followed it for much of its life span. I don't think there was one single factor that caused its failure but there were a number of decisions that certainly doomed it.

Well, Android was one factor...

The app gap was another factor, but it never really affected me. Nearly all of the mainstream apps were there. There was even an official Google Search app. There were also a handful of very good YouTube clients in the store.

Windows Phone also had the best touch keyboard on any mobile operating system.

Oh, and you cant forget about Continuum! That could've been revolutionary.

I'm getting sidetracked though. Google's stubbornness to port its applications to the store was another hard blow to Windows Phone.

Microsoft should've persuaded BlackBerry to switch to making Windows Phones instead of pivoting to BB10. I think that could've saved both Windows Phone and BlackBerry, especially in the enterprise market.

Microsoft could've also persuaded Amazon to use Windows RT on its Kindle Fire devices. That could've made the Kindle Fire tablets a proper competitor to iPads and possibly save Windows RT. On top of that, they also could've persuaded Amazon to use Windows Phone on the Fire Phone. Again, that would've benefited both parties and could've turned the Fire Phone into a successful line of smartphones. Amazon, BlackBerry, and Nokia could've been a saving grace for Windows Phone.

That's just not right

I don't even know who to trust at this point, not even Microsoft. The communication between Microsoft and the user is so hilariously poor.

 

[BeatCrazy]

That's just not right
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I'm slightly miffed that my own Microsoft Surface Go (released in 2018!!) won't even support Windows 11. UEFI and TPM 2.0 are present, just the CPU is "too old".

 

[AutomaticApple]

I'm slightly miffed that my own Microsoft Surface Go (released in 2018!!) won't even support Windows 11. UEFI and TPM 2.0 are present, just the CPU is "too old".

I believe the original Surface Go was released in 2017. I guess it's time to buy the Surface Go 2? 🤷‍♂️

 

[skaertus]

The lack of apps and the quality of the apps that were available in the store were partially to blame..

Also, I went into a carrier store to buy the Lumia 830 when it came out and the rep was clueless what it even was. She went and asked a coworker then later came back with the phone. While she was setting it up (I told her not to bother but I guess it was policy) she said " I can see why nobody buys these' and made several other disparaging remarks right in front of me...

This was a corporate store (not an affiliate) and they had zero Windows phones on display either..

I think there were several reasons why it failed but store app availability and the quality of the apps that were in the store played a major factor in my opinion..

I personally think it was one of the best OS's for a phone and I wish MS would have put more effort into sales, marketing, and training of carrier employees..

Agreed. Microsoft managed to create an interface that stood out from iOS and Android. The Live Tiles were great for mobile (although not for the desktop). It had potential. Unfortunately, Windows Phone was a flop. As you mentioned, there were very few apps available, as developers would not put an effort to translate them to a third platform when the market was already dominated by Apple and Google.

 

[ivnj]

Also this is nuts. He has two expensive rigs one with ten cores that does not work with 11.

 

[diamond.g]

Also this is nuts. He has two expensive rigs one with ten cores that does not work with 11.

Yeah first generation Ryzen Threadrippers are left out as well, which seems silly.

 

[marcelvelky]

i have the W11 build instaled on following machines:

Thinkpad x260 / i76600U / 16gbRAM / SSD
Late mac mini 2012 / i736XXQ / 16GB RAM / SSD

Of course, the mini conf is much much snappier overall, the build is stabile and pretty fast with nice graphics as well. Also buggy as expected. So much tweeking and sorting needed. For a first impression, i would give an 8.5 grade rls.

 

[mi7chy]

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 on Surface Pro X. Apparently someone else is downloading it on his Surface Pro 4 so it's sounding more like the requirements are soft limits rather than hard limits.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-preview-insider-build-22000

To get it, join Windows Insider Program then set to Dev channel.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/about-windows-insider-program

 

[jrichards1408]

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 on Surface Pro X. Apparently someone else is downloading it on his Surface Pro 4 so it's sounding more like the requirements are soft limits rather than hard limits.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-preview-insider-build-22000

To get it join Windows Insiders Program then set to Dev channel.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/about-windows-insider-program

Nice

 

[soulreaver99]

Install Windows 11 on my gaming building. So far so good! I really like the rounded edges and the redesign. Running quick and smooth so far but I’ve only been running this for about an hour so I’ll know more as I use it.

Also - don’t forget to run the updates in the Microsoft Store app to get the new store design. It’s MUCH cleaner than the one on Windows 10.

Next - will need to see how well games run after hours

 

[nickdalzell1]

Cortana was much better in Windows Phone 8.1, trust me. I don't know what Windows 10 Mobile did to her... 😓

Also, tablet mode was a terrible substitute for the Metro interface. Nothing can beat Windows 8.

Maybe it was my Lumia 520 but Cortana didn't exist on 8.1. It was advertised via notification though that on Windows Phone 10 it'd include her.

Cortana was just there to please Halo fans. Some said her voice was the same, but I never got into Halo as much so I can't verify for certain. Master Chief's A.I. assistant was named Cortana, however.

I am really enjoying Windows 11 myself. I selected the landscape wallpaper over the ribbon thing, and it looks far more pleasing to the eye. There's only one bug I have noticed, and that's that the display sleep is broken. It's set to 2 hours, I've tried 5 hours, 1 hour, etc and it never turns the display off.

Now just have to wait for Avast! and Office to get proper updates for rounded corners and overall UI design to match.

I won't be testing games though until I get a proper RAM upgrade ~16-32GB. Right now at 8GB it's sitting idle with 59% RAM used. I was wondering why Flight Simulator 2020 was maxing out the RAM and performing like crap with anything other than a Cessna 152.

 

[AutomaticApple]

Agreed. Microsoft managed to create an interface that stood out from iOS and Android. The Live Tiles were great for mobile (although not for the desktop). It had potential. Unfortunately, Windows Phone was a flop. As you mentioned, there were very few apps available, as developers would not put an effort to translate them to a third platform when the market was already dominated by Apple and Google.

There was also no fragmentation because OEMs couldn't apply their own skins to Windows Phone.

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 on Surface Pro X. Apparently someone else is downloading it on his Surface Pro 4 so it's sounding more like the requirements are soft limits rather than hard limits.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-preview-insider-build-22000

To get it, join Windows Insider Program then set to Dev channel.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/about-windows-insider-program

No, it's because the minimum requirements will not be mandated for insider preview builds.

Maybe it was my Lumia 520 but Cortana didn't exist on 8.1. It was advertised via notification though that on Windows Phone 10 it'd include her.

Cortana was just there to please Halo fans. Some said her voice was the same, but I never got into Halo as much so I can't verify for certain. Master Chief's A.I. assistant was named Cortana, however.

I am really enjoying Windows 11 myself. I selected the landscape wallpaper over the ribbon thing, and it looks far more pleasing to the eye. There's only one bug I have noticed, and that's that the display sleep is broken. It's set to 2 hours, I've tried 5 hours, 1 hour, etc and it never turns the display off.

Maybe you turned it off by accident?

Nokia Lumia 520 - Cortana - AT&T

Get Nokia Lumia 520 support for the topic: Cortana. Find more step-by-step device tutorials on att.com.

www.att.com

Also - don’t forget to run the updates in the Microsoft Store app to get the new store design. It’s MUCH cleaner than the one on Windows 10.

Are there any new traditional win32 apps in the store now that things have changed?

 

[nickdalzell1]

I'm dead serious, she was non-existant on my 520. No icon, no settings item for it, no voice command period. She didn't become part of it until the Windows Phone 10 update.

Also, what updates in Store must I run? They're all on auto, and installed but I still got the Windows 10 store.

 

[AutomaticApple]

I'm dead serious, she was non-existant on my 520. No icon, no settings item for it, no voice command period.

At launch, Cortana was only available in a handful of regions. Maybe she finally became available in your region once Windows 10 Mobile rolled around?

 

[nickdalzell1]

Odd since I'm in the U.S.

I do recall the tons of notifications about Cortana coming via 10 though. I was on insider at the time so I got emails a lot about it.

 

[three]

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 on Surface Pro X. Apparently someone else is downloading it on his Surface Pro 4 so it's sounding more like the requirements are soft limits rather than hard limits.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-preview-insider-build-22000

To get it, join Windows Insider Program then set to Dev channel.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/about-windows-insider-program

I just installed it on my Surface Pro 4, out of curiosity. It's the lower end variant with the i5-6300U and 4GB RAM. I opted this machine into the insider program a few days ago, solely for the reason to see how good / bad it would run, with the knowledge that Microsoft won't be so strict with the requirements for these insider builds. The installation finished a few minutes ago, and I've been doing little things around the operating system. It's surprisingly smooth. I'll keep playing around with it and provide updates, if anyone is interested. Here's Task Manager with this tab opened in Microsoft Edge.

 

[mwidjaya]

Hmnn, looks like the ISO for Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 is OUT!

Just downloaded it.

Thinking about installing it on a spare machine that doesn't meet specs (CPU, TPM). Wondering if the TPM bypass by replacing appraiserres.dll still works.

Should I go ahead?

 

[jrichards1408]

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000 on Surface Pro X. Apparently someone else is downloading it on his Surface Pro 4 so it's sounding more like the requirements are soft limits rather than hard limits.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-11-preview-insider-build-22000

To get it, join Windows Insider Program then set to Dev channel.

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/about-windows-insider-program

Does it work on arm?

 

[maflynn]

Downloading official Windows 11 insider preview build 22000

I don't see it as a stand alone download, and I'm not really wanting to download a dev build on my Razer or desktop PC. I'll wait until I see an ISO. i've been in the insiders program for quite some time, but I've always selected the slow ring and right now its not even "activated"

Does it work on arm?

No, this is just x86

 

[diamond.g]

I don't see it as a stand alone download, and I'm not really wanting to download a dev build on my Razer or desktop PC. I'll wait until I see an ISO. i've been in the insiders program for quite some time, but I've always selected the slow ring and right now its not even "activated"


No, this is just x86

The ISO folk keep referencing is probably the same Dev Build. I loaded it on my SP3 (I don't really use it so this gives me an excuse). So far it seems fine.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I just got the latest Insider build as well, but for some reason, my Microsoft Store is still old and outdated. It has the old icon as well. I checked for and installed all updates but other than it having rounded corners, the interface is straight out of Windows 10. What am I doing wrong?

 

[diamond.g]

I just got the latest Insider build as well, but for some reason, my Microsoft Store is still old and outdated. It has the old icon as well. I checked for and installed all updates but other than it having rounded corners, the interface is straight out of Windows 10. What am I doing wrong?

Go to the store and check for updates. That will force it to download the latest version.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I did that! It found one app (Microsoft To Do) and that was it. I rebooted multiple times as well. Any way I can just sideload it somehow?

Windows Update also says everything is up to date. Something is either wrong or it's a staged roll-out (hate those!)

 

[diamond.g]

I did that! It found one app (Microsoft To Do) and that was it. I rebooted multiple times as well. Any way I can just sideload it somehow?

Windows Update also says everything is up to date. Something is either wrong or it's a staged roll-out (hate those!)

That is odd, I didn't do anything special.

 

[nickdalzell1]

Well, i tried 'resetting' the store, it froze, I rebooted, now I can't even open it. It won't even show up under app settings at all now. Tried some PowerShell commands, they all fail for some reason not expected arguments, the like. Anyone got an EXE of it? I would just be happy to delete the icon if possible. As it's now entirely broken. All I wanted was the new UI!

I just did a whole ton of PowerShell commands to get Store back (what a migraine inducing mess) so now it's working, showing it updating, we'll see if it has the new UI. I'm just surprised the updated build didn't even include it.