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I'd love to move to Linux (most of my gaming needs are satisfied there on one of my gaming PCs) but I'm struggling to find a skeuomorphic distro out there that doesn't involve tons of compiling source code or command line hacks. Just want a skeuomorphic one out the box, apps and all. That's not a lot to ask. Certainly one exists?

PearOS used to exist but it got replaced by Elementary OS which is too flat nowawdays. I did one time have a more recent Ubuntu build doing a great impression of OS X Mountain Lion at least in the icons, toolbars, browser UI and traffic light area, along with dock, but no apps with the skeuo. No notes, music, etc. Most themes only go skin deep. Even that attempt took hours.
Did you try KDE Plasma? Its very customizable, and there are Mac themes just a click away
 

nickdalzell1

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Again, skin deep. That was exactly the way I themed the one that looked like Mountain Lion, it went so far as to the title bars, window controls, and dock icons, but not to the actual apps themselves. No paper texture on Notes, or actual realistic calculator.

Also, Plasma got gimped in modern distros. It's not nearly that easy to even get that today! Nearly all modern distros with support have gone Material, Fluent, flat or sorta in between the three.

I'd actually love to see a distro that resembled OS 1 from the movie Her, since it did flat UI very well with depth and animations. It had skeuo in relevant places as well.

I guess I should be proud my phone got as close as it did, given I got tons of APKs of older Android apps coupled with a paid Samsung Skeuomorphic icon theme.

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yeh, that theming applies do KDE apps mostly. Still pretty nice. Maybe not Mountain Lion nice, but better than anything I‘m aware of
 

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It only went icon and window control/title bar deep for me. No sign of the actual texture on a Notes app and no coverflow or chromed buttons on Arok much less any other Music player I tried. It's always half done. Never complete.
 

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Yeah, true. Probably not that easy given all the various toolkits flourishing under Linux
 

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Again, skin deep. That was exactly the way I themed the one that looked like Mountain Lion, it went so far as to the title bars, window controls, and dock icons, but not to the actual apps themselves. No paper texture on Notes, or actual realistic calculator.

Also, Plasma got gimped in modern distros. It's not nearly that easy to even get that today! Nearly all modern distros with support have gone Material, Fluent, flat or sorta in between the three.

I'd actually love to see a distro that resembled OS 1 from the movie Her, since it did flat UI very well with depth and animations. It had skeuo in relevant places as well.

I guess I should be proud my phone got as close as it did, given I got tons of APKs of older Android apps coupled with a paid Samsung Skeuomorphic icon theme.

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Looks pretty nice indeed. How did you do that (not too Android savvy any more)?
 

nickdalzell1

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Combo of Android 2.3 APKs I archived on a server years ago, acting as an NAS (I don't use Google Play anymore) with a paid theme from the Samsung theme store "Photoreal Icon Pack" or something to that effect. There's another theme that does stuff to the keyboard and restores 'classic TouchWiz' look to apps such as phone dialer, Samsung keyboard, and the general OS colors, called Infinity, I just don't use the wallpaper and icon set so all Infinity does is theme those apps/keyboard. It's a setup I carried over from my Galaxy S8. Never been into Flat UI.

Android 2.3 APKs still run on modern Android, and use even less RAM, but you have to enable 'unknown sources' in security settings. While the hardware wasn't up for that period, for any sort of speed or reliability, Android 2.3 remains my all-time favorite version of Android, and the last of the Wild Wild De-Googled West. Best time for Custom ROMs too, such as CyanogenMod 7.1, which took themes to a level even Samsung would drool over.
 
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This is hilarious, all the confusion with the hardware requirements, now this. The beta has also been a very rough and buggy ride for me personally, I expected so much more than a new UI theme on top of the Windows 10 UI. I'm just incredibly disappointed at this point.
 

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Looks like when Windows 11 is released in Oct, it won't include support for Android apps.

Windows 11 won’t include Android app support at launch (msn.com)

Considering how washed out and flat the Win 11 UI appears, the tighter restrictions over what the user has control over, and now this... my interest in Win 11 is now near zero.
Yeah I don't know really what they are doing. They need to change whatever criteria it is to be beta and start testing the stuff even if it isn't fully implemented and use the release preview iron out the bugs.
 

grmlin

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Yeah I don't know really what they are doing. They need to change whatever criteria it is to be beta and start testing the stuff even if it isn't fully implemented and use the release preview iron out the bugs.
I guess it’s not a good sign for the current state of the Android integration that it’s not even in the development ring yet. That must be months away
 
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maflynn

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Whelp, my windows 11 experiment is now over. I ran into an odd issue - Windows Explorer, taskbar and startmenu stopped working.

I noticed that my Razer Synapse was updating itself (no big deal) but as it was working, the time in the notification never updated, more so the start menu was non-responsive. Once Synapse finished updating, I rebooted and I lost the entire task bar, now what showed up was just a gray bar, no text. Hitting the windows key caused something to happen (the spinny blue thing showed up and then nothing). Also the file explorer was problematic.

I tried creating a new user account, and booting into that but no go. I think something on the drive was corrupted, but sadly, it wasn't the user folder.

I reformatted and reinstalled windows - now the fun part, reinstalling my apps.

I created a powershell script a while ago, so I think its time I try that out. Its not complete, I have other apps to include but this will help quite a bit

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Whelp, my windows 11 experiment is now over. I ran into an odd issue - Windows Explorer, taskbar and startmenu stopped working.

I noticed that my Razer Synapse was updating itself (no big deal) but as it was working, the time in the notification never updated, more so the start menu was non-responsive. Once Synapse finished updating, I rebooted and I lost the entire task bar, now what showed up was just a gray bar, no text. Hitting the windows key caused something to happen (the spinny blue thing showed up and then nothing). Also the file explorer was problematic.

I tried creating a new user account, and booting into that but no go. I think something on the drive was corrupted, but sadly, it wasn't the user folder.

I reformatted and reinstalled windows - now the fun part, reinstalling my apps.

I created a powershell script a while ago, so I think its time I try that out. Its not complete, I have other apps to include but this will help quite a bit

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What an awesome script, how do I go about doing something like that?
 

robotica

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Apparently, there is a known issues with the latest build that is corrupting installations. Work around involves setting the clock to a specific time than everything works again. Good thread on Reddit.
 
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maflynn

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Good thread on Reddit.
its too late for me, but do you have a link?

how do I go about doing something like that?
Its really not too difficult, I'm just learning myself - powershell is incredibly powerful, you can create form windows, but at the heart of it all, is just using winget, for instance to install acrobat via winget, you'd run this within powershell
winget install -e --id Adobe.AdobeAcrobatReaderDC

winget is a new packagemanager for windows, so you may not have it installed yet. Here's some info on winget

For those apps that don't have an entry in winget, or I need to install a specific version (since I have the license for that and not the newer version), I use a different powershell command to run the installer that I have on my drive.
 

maflynn

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I have my Razer just about done, I have my nearly all of my apps installed, my handy powershell script saved me probably saved me hours of work of manually trying to figure out what I need, where to get it and install it.

As for windows 11, since this the razer isn't my main machine, I didn't have any concern about installing windows 11 natively (as opposed to a vm). Given that windows 11 is out next month, I'll just sit and wait until I can grab the release version
 

Droobiemus

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We have a rando Dell we got in case our iMac died, and my partner put Windows 11 on it. I happened to look at it when it was on, and you know what? It wasn't bad looking. However, I'm thinking of getting a 17" System76 laptop. But it's nice to see Windows changing things up to be more appealing.
 

maflynn

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I reloaded windows 11, this time on my main machine - taking a chance in some ways, but I figure the developer preview must be getting close to release preview. In any event, I noticed a few hiccups.
1. Performance in some areas is a bit pokey - more so then when I was using windows 11 on my Razer laptop. Logging in from a cold boot is noticably slower but not horrendous. Some apps like Acrobat Pro seems a bit more laggy when starting up.
2. Stability - at least playing some games. I think this is an nvidia issue, and so far I'm thinking its related to Geforce Experience. I've turned off the in game HUD and I'll see if that improves things. The issue seems only related to Fallout 76 where you get the start up splash screen and just as the Geforce Experience Hud starts showing up, it freezes. A quick log out of my windows account and logging back in, force quits the game and I generally can go back in. This is not something I noticed on my Razer, which admittedly, had an older build of win11.

Overall Its a nice solid experience and I'm hoping some of these niggly type of things will be resolved.

Edit:
So playing with Geforce Experience, I think I nailed down the cause of instability. For what ever reason it seems with win11 and fallout 76 the native resolution of 3440 x 1440 has caused some intermittent issues that changing the resolution seems to fixed it.
 

LeeW

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Logging in from a cold boot is noticably slower but not horrendous.

Interesting, I am 7/9 seconds from power on to input my pin every time.

The only thing bugging me at the moment in games is that my MX Master 3 can be juddery, only in-game though, nowhere else.
 

grmlin

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Interesting, I am 7/9 seconds from power on to input my pin every time.

The only thing bugging me at the moment in games is that my MX Master 3 can be juddery, only in-game though, nowhere else.
My ThinkPad takes like 30s after deep sleep to come back up. Booting is slow, too. But I think that’s a problem of the ThinkPad, it has been the same in 10
 

maflynn

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Interesting, I am 7/9 seconds from power on to input my pin every time.
I noticed that XMP was not enabled in the bios, I was in there doing unrelated stuff and once I turned that on, and rebooted, I was at the login screen in about 9 seconds. From the login screen it was near instantons to the desktop. Prior to that, it was probably closer to 15 seconds to get to the desktop
 
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