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All Devices WOW iOS 13 is a total letdown
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If you can’t see it or make it glow in pretty colors when you touch it you have failed
What did „those other guys“ as Tim Cook likes to call them introduce revolutionary with „Q“? Or what about „P“? The same „meh“ can be heard from their (power)users, too.
The times of revolutions in the smartphone sector are over. Hard- and software-wise.
The times of revolutions in the smartphone sector are over. Hard- and software-wise.
Welcome to a mature market. It's not iOS 5 anymore.
I really wish incoming calls were a notification, that's all I wanted and they didn't do that
The OP appears to care most about customizing the look of the OS similar to Android, or at least a completely revised look similar to when iOS 7 came out.
That will never be what Apple is about. In fact, I think most customers would strongly object to significant changes to the UI look at this point. It's clean and familiar. Improving the functionality should be the priority.
That will never be what Apple is about. In fact, I think most customers would strongly object to significant changes to the UI look at this point. It's clean and familiar. Improving the functionality should be the priority.
iPadOS is huge.
Sidecar is huge for a lot of workflows.
Catalyst is huge.
ARKit 3 is big.
2x faster app loading is unexpected and great.
Dark Mode is cool.
Also, some quality of life improvements across systems are really nice.
Heck, even the Dualshock and Xbox controller support is big, especially with upcoming Apple Arcade!
So maybe this version is not that big for iPhones, but major stuff for iPad and Mac. These are my favorite OS updates by far!
Can't really agree. As hidden within the updates are things I wanted for years and are game changers for how I use my phone. This for example:
Automatic language selection in Dictation
Dictation automatically detects which language a user is speaking. The language will be chosen from the keyboard languages enabled on the device, up to a maximum of four.
As a multilingual speaker that constantly swaps keyboards this actually allows dictation in multi languages so much easier.
Maps updates also look really promising, when they eventually filter down to UK.
Photo editing and video editing is amazing. Especially for them overexposed video shots.
The reminders app looks like it will be massively more useful to me, with tasks etc it looks brilliant. I never got along with any of the third party ones..
In essence it's a lot of small and very useful things. I do agree that letting us move icons how we want would be good, but that isn't a game changer in grand scheme of things. If you compare this massive list to what Android Q brought... we got a lot more. And it's still iOS, which is more stable than android. I have an android work phone and I like it, but I LOVE my iPhone.
https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-13-preview/features/
Automatic language selection in Dictation
Dictation automatically detects which language a user is speaking. The language will be chosen from the keyboard languages enabled on the device, up to a maximum of four.
As a multilingual speaker that constantly swaps keyboards this actually allows dictation in multi languages so much easier.
Maps updates also look really promising, when they eventually filter down to UK.
Photo editing and video editing is amazing. Especially for them overexposed video shots.
The reminders app looks like it will be massively more useful to me, with tasks etc it looks brilliant. I never got along with any of the third party ones..
In essence it's a lot of small and very useful things. I do agree that letting us move icons how we want would be good, but that isn't a game changer in grand scheme of things. If you compare this massive list to what Android Q brought... we got a lot more. And it's still iOS, which is more stable than android. I have an android work phone and I like it, but I LOVE my iPhone.
https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-13-preview/features/
"total disaster"? What are we talking about here?
People have to realize something: They not only added a ton of new features, but they managed to improve performance in the process. If you keep adding features, it usually eats up CPU. I think they found a great balance of new features and performance enhancements.
Plus support for ps4 and xbox controllers
Dont forget that lol
I came to look at this thread to see what was wrong with iOS 13 but instead, I read that they haven’t changed the icons or homescreen and that the phone still behaves like a phone. I know that Android always debuts newer feature first but the reason I’m still with Apple is usability.
I don’t like fussing with my phone. I have all sorts of other equipment that needs fiddling with and calibrating and configuring and learning. My phone's there to make my life easier. I too don’t care about dark mode and think that maybe multi tasking on the bigger phones might be useful but overall, I’d consider improvements to performance and security to be of greater substance. Still, it’s understandible that not everyone will be happy and given the enormous cost of these devices, perhaps Apple should include a few more bells and whistles to keep mor customers happy.
I don’t like fussing with my phone. I have all sorts of other equipment that needs fiddling with and calibrating and configuring and learning. My phone's there to make my life easier. I too don’t care about dark mode and think that maybe multi tasking on the bigger phones might be useful but overall, I’d consider improvements to performance and security to be of greater substance. Still, it’s understandible that not everyone will be happy and given the enormous cost of these devices, perhaps Apple should include a few more bells and whistles to keep mor customers happy.
I have only one wish ”able to reject calls without actually ”rejecting it” and able to continue using the ipad/iphone”. Possible yet?
iOS 13 is not "bad" on its own, its just an average update with only minor updates here and there just like iOS 12 was IMO. They called ipadOS for iPad, but the difference with iOS 13 is minimal. No customization on home screen and widget just look ugly in home screen because its just copy and paste with the old widget column. iOS 11 had more exciting things for the iPad compared to iOS 13. The only real good thing is finally desktop class Safari for iPad, a thing they should do fo years. Dark mode feels very cheap also. Its just smart invert colours with minor refinements. People said smart invert looked so bad in iOS 11 but now they praise the new dark mode. Personally, I thought dark mode would be more polished like macOS.
It's a decent/normal update, simply doesn't have some sort of a large overall redesign in it.
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Doesn't seem like that has been changed in iOS 13 (at least not in its current beta 1 form).
Might be a bit off-topic but it seems weird that the previously vocal "iOS isn't productive until we have a real filesystem" crowd haven't noted that 13 now has full organizational control over local storage. Always thought it was a non-issue myself due to having that ability by simply installing something like the Documents app which gave you full control in a folder called Documents; not exactly an alien experience.
For me it's a whole much of small things like the better multitasking in iPadOS, apparent performance improvements (in Dev beta 1 no less), improved browser and so on. Lots of small things that add up to a substantially more powerful device. Seems weird to obsess over whether we can arrange home screen icons in a circle. YMMV, as always.
For me it's a whole much of small things like the better multitasking in iPadOS, apparent performance improvements (in Dev beta 1 no less), improved browser and so on. Lots of small things that add up to a substantially more powerful device. Seems weird to obsess over whether we can arrange home screen icons in a circle. YMMV, as always.
I think for every widely available technology, this mindset exists in some bleeding edge users. In photography it’s the pixel peepers, who will enlarge a photo beyond any useful magnification in order to find that tiny bit of noise that says “AHA! This camera stinks!”. Here it’s those who seemingly ignore all the new features in favor of some feature they didn’t get.
I get the disappointment of not being able to “do what the other guys do”. But no one is really so locked into this ecosystem that they can’t (now or at their next upgrade time) go buy the “other guy's” phone and have the elusive feature immediately. If I was as upset as some here are about Apple, I wouldn’t waste my time railing about it, I’d go get the other device.
My other half switched to Samsung Galaxy s10+ after watching the WWDC. I must say that device looks amazing and already has dark mode. I like iPhone but it seems like Samsung is leading display & features.
People want what they want and that's ok. Seems like we just have a perpetual cycle of high emotion here though and as soon as people actually get the thing they want it's either instantly unimportant or terrible for some other minor reason. If Apple ever do put in banner notifications for calls (likely at some point I would have thought) or remove north-west gravity from the home screen arrangement (less likely) I just know it'll be the wrong type of banner or too few pixels degree of arrangement freedom.
Whatever, I guess. I am really happy with this early release of 13 and see good things coming. I'm determined to enjoy this beta cycle at MR and definitely not respond to the 14527th "Daily Driver" thread that will be posted over the coming months
With that, I'm out of this thread. It's not for me.
Has the OP not seen the Android Q update?! Talk about a total letdown 
Literally Google only nightlight three things at I/O dark mode, “better” privacy, also better location control (which iOS has had forever) and supposedly faster updates with the phone not having to reboot (which Google promises with Android O) LOL.
Yeah but iOS 13 is seriously underwhelming.
Literally Google only nightlight three things at I/O dark mode, “better” privacy, also better location control (which iOS has had forever) and supposedly faster updates with the phone not having to reboot (which Google promises with Android O) LOL.
Yeah but iOS 13 is seriously underwhelming.
For me, with Safari desktop class, download manager, Files, app Exposé, mouse support, font libraries, split view, upgraded slide over, etc., iOS is a major update. Home screen customization would be nice, but would not bring any major or even moderate improvements to my workflow. Their other changes, however, will.
So am I.
I'm using iOS 13 Beta and I can say I'm impressed. There are a few bugs, which is of course expected, but overall its a good first beta.
I'm sure we'd all love to see more innovation from Apple and be wow'd once again, but I'll take privacy, stability, and reliability over Android phones.