I wonder also how much the lack of “wow” is due to leaks of features. We had people complaining about the implementation of Dark Mode before it was even formally introduced by Apple.
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All Devices WOW iOS 13 is a total letdown
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It's partially that, but seems like it's more about some sort of assumed expectations on parts of some that some large scale total redesign would be happening and basically basing pretty much everything off of that assumption.
I agree still cant hide the home bar which we should be allowed, and the calling page still takes over the whole screen so many small things they could of done but didnt
Wow. Thanks for posting this, I had no idea. I swap between 3-4 languages constantly during my day so for me this is huge!
This round of updates continues to be the biggest ever in my book.
Ah the yearly recurring thread "iOS X is a total letdown"
From a new member since 2 or 3 months, your comment is pretty funny. People have the rights to express their opinions. Don’t act like you’re smarter than us.
You could almost argue that Dark Mode should not have even been featured.
It's a setting in the Appearance section that should have been implemented years ago.
I think it isn't as much as a letdown as ios12 was but I'm not seeing anything earth shattering.
WatchOS, CarPlay, and iPadOS look impressive but the general phone os needs more of a change.
For example, when Google announced the secretary feature where you can have an AI answer a call you can't identify and ask specific questions (what is this in regards to, etc.)
That is a feature for a premium phone. But we will maybe see it in ios15.
It's a setting in the Appearance section that should have been implemented years ago.
I think it isn't as much as a letdown as ios12 was but I'm not seeing anything earth shattering.
WatchOS, CarPlay, and iPadOS look impressive but the general phone os needs more of a change.
For example, when Google announced the secretary feature where you can have an AI answer a call you can't identify and ask specific questions (what is this in regards to, etc.)
That is a feature for a premium phone. But we will maybe see it in ios15.
Agree. The narrative got out there just before iOS 12 launched that many features would be deferred to iOS 13 which would be a big update. I think that morphed to an iOS 7-like large visual refresh.
In my mind, iOS 13 is, in many respects, more groundbreaking than iOS 7 was. iOS 7 reflected the maturation of design and “growing up” of iOS and, more importantly, the user base. Users no longer needed to be presented with skeuomorphic/lifelike representations of electronic tools in order to recognize their parallels to their physical equivalents.
Think of it as the equivalent of moving from pre-school/primary school to middle school / high school. In the former, students learn the use of tools (the alphabet, numbers, etc...). In the latter they learn how to apply the tools. With skeuomorphism, smartphone users learned how to equate electronic GUI elements with their functional physical equivalent. In the post-skeumorphic era, they no longer needed the training wheels and could recognize the electronic tools in their own right.
Now, we have reached the digital equivalent of college, where tools are no longer there to be learned or applied in a rudimentary way. Now, for those who care to use them, the tools are there to actually create new experiences. Shortcuts, for example. The exterior changes are much more subtle to the outside viewer (much like a high schooler moving on to college doesn’t appear to change much physically) but the interior changes are profound. iPadOS, in particular, reflects this, with its new emphasis on content-creation rather than simply consumption.
To leave the education analogy, the more subtle but substantial changes in iOS 13 also reflects the maturation of smart devices overall and the place of the players in that market.
The innovation curve has flattened nearly asymptotically simply because that’s how development of any technology proceeds. Books (yes, a form of technology) have not changed much since Gutenberg because they met the needs of the user and there were not many fundamental outward changes that could improve upon them. Similarly here: the low hanging fruit was gathered in the heady era of 2007 to, say, 2011 or so. After that, the pace of change has been much more measured, more in the nature of tweaks than radical change. Even Dark Mode is just window-dressing, although a highly desired change.
Bottom line (for those who’ve bothered to read this far!) is that the technology has matured and we’re just not going to see huge visual changes going forward. Apple has chosen to take a conservative path here (and its hard to argue with their choices given where it has propelled them - from a failing boutique personal computer maker to the most dominant business enterprise in the world) and Google has chosen a more open, adaptable yet hard to adopt environment. It is hard to argue with their choices, as well, given the numerical preponderance of their users. Each presents its own advantages to its user base and each caters to the average user mindset in that user base.
At the end of the day: pick Apple if you want consistency and predictability. Pick Android if you want more customizability.
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Sure people have the right to express their opinions but every year there's a thread like this and then when the new iphone comes you get the 'iPhone something is a total letdown' thread. People always have something to complain, it could be the best software/hardware ever and people still will make a thread about how it's a total letdown.
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Here's an article about how that google secretary 'feature' is working a year after they've launched it and it was only launched for restaurant reservations and hasn't been updated for anything more as of right now.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/22/...uman-callers-25-percent-ai-restaurant-booking
Not to mention that Google Assistant raises privacy concerns (to some extent, though Google probably knows you're eating at a particular location anyhow). And its creepy. How would you like to be on the receiving end of one of those calls? It does work. I used it on iOS to make Mother's Day dinner reservations, successfully. But that was an experiment and not something I'm likely to do again or often.
Please please stop going on about Apple maps... No gimmicky AR feature is going to save it (And yes, google maps has all of the AR implementation now as well). Do you drive much? If you did you would know how bad it is compared to google maps.
Not wanting to keep this thread afloat, but I can honestly say I was impressed with the majority of the announced features across all of the products. Thought it was an excellent WWDC.
I actually can’t wait for the new memojis.
However I encourage you to use this link in case there are outstanding items in your iOS wishlist that were not implemented in iOS 13. Http://Apple.com/feedback
Agreed. The phone screening and secretary options are something that I’ve been thinking about for a while. We also need more privacy options with text messaging where we can control how we appear to others (control over confirmation of text delivery as an example). We should also be able to push calls directly to voicemail if and when we want to appear unavailable to others.
By the way I’m not complaining overall. iOS 13 looks pretty good to me, and iPadOS. Sidecar for iPad Pro models has been a long time coming.
For my use cases Apple maps is better than google maps, which I have uninstalled.
I use it exclusively for driving and have used Google and Waze for years. For directions, no problems whatsoever. For POIs, still playing catch up, but I think we'll see near parity in the not so distant future. And Apple's version offers POI info in streetview, while Google's does not.
But there's a whole pinned thread devoted to Apple Maps in this iOS 13 section of MacRumors forums, so I'll leave it at that.
The fact that google maps has integrated reviews for all businesses makes it indispensable (as opposed to apple maps that just links Yelp reviews.). And Google’s reviews are even more extensive than Yelp. I use Yelp as well but to have both is even better when trying to figure out of a business is reputable. Google Maps also has so much more interactive implementation with users such as reporting live updates as to how busy a location is such as the Bronx Zoo on a Wednesday. Apple maps has none of this. The list goes on.
I want to be clear that in my view iOS is far better than Android (I switched to a galaxy note 2 for one generation back in the day but went back to iOS after). But in no way does Apple Maps even come close and those who insist that it does are really just apologists with no objectivity.
Understood... but there are some around here who would complain if Apple gave them $100 as one hundred singles instead of five $20s.
There's "that guy" every year that continues to be underwhelmed regardless of what Apple does (or doesn't do).
The only reason I don't use Apple Maps is the fact that the actual map display is so low-contrast.
Google's maps are simply easier to read for me.
I drive a lot and never once had an issue with Apple Maps. Google Maps once took me around in circles though.
Another time using Google Maps, I pinned a destination, and Google Maps told me I arrived when I was in the middle of the Garden State Parkway... worst part is I was in the express lane, so I had to drive another 10 miles before I could turn the other way.
Why do you think they’re going to bring the iOS 6 look back? I thought it was much more attractive but it wasn’t a good use of screen real estate. I don’t think it’s coming back unless something radically different comes along such as a holographic projection display.
I had to add the neighbor’s android phone to her car yesterday. Now there’s some non-intuitive stuff right there. Just putting in her 4 digit passcode was difficult - you have to press a weird enter key tucked into the keypad. The settings was hidden in a folder and the 3 directional keys (back? Enter? something else?) really got in the way of simply getting into the bluetooth settings. It seemed like it had the same grid of apps as an iphone so I’m missing the customization argument.
