There's absolutely normal for me. I don't know why you have disabled sub-pixel anti-aliasing.
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Yosemite looks terrible!
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Yosemite: harder to look at
In the 'hard to look at' topic:
Under 'looks terrible':
Broadly: is seems that a few people are trying, without success, to regain the quality of appearance that was present before Yosemite.
In the 'hard to look at' topic:
Under 'looks terrible':
Broadly: is seems that a few people are trying, without success, to regain the quality of appearance that was present before Yosemite.
This is the only post I've come across that understands the real issue many can not articualte and conveys my own feelings which I've posted in this thread or elsehwere.
People need to understand in the world of 2D you have to use all the visual tricks you can to compensate the lack of third dimension which is the equivalent but opposite of what ID designers do (Ive) in the real three dimensional physical world where they try to make something look like it's 2D, thinner for example, something that looks physically impossible but is somehow a real object.
Human perception is also very varied thing thankfully. We're being asked to accept a very narrow and I would say one dimensional approach to UI design.
May I also add the gross irony in the age of the Retina screen they've gone for such inept UI approach.
Never have so many pixels been asked to do so little.
It looks like we have the Industrial designer working on the UI and marketing designer the computers. APPLE is eating itself.
Also this term "skeumorphism", I never heard of it until things started to get a bit hand baggy at Apple HQ and people began to get fired.
I remember back in the 90's a new generation of Commodore AMIGA graphics chips where being developed and TRANSLUCENCY was being demoed as part of a new GUI. So for those who think it's a cool new modern feature.... ha!
Yes well Commodore went bust for various other reasons, the chips never made it to market and the rest is history as they say.
My point is it's a HUGE visual gimmick. It's the candy floss of GUI. It's was a milestone technically back in the 90's but it's not much use in truth.
Do we write our notes or print our pages on semi transparent sheets? No we don't as a rule. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you can.
I remember back in the 90's a new generation of Commodore AMIGA graphics chips where being developed and TRANSLUCENCY was being demoed as part of a new GUI. So for those who think it's a cool new modern feature.... ha!
Yes well Commodore went bust for various other reasons, the chips never made it to market and the rest is history as they say.
My point is it's a HUGE visual gimmick. It's the candy floss of GUI. It's was a milestone technically back in the 90's but it's not much use in truth.
Do we write our notes or print our pages on semi transparent sheets? No we don't as a rule. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you can.
And it takes more cpu apparently, according to my iStat Menus at least. "playing" with a scrollbar with transparency "on" takes more power than when it's off.
I don't mind the minimalist approach tbh, but I like "efficiency" - so I've "reduced transparency". I don't need to keep my CPUs busy just because there's an effect to render each time I move my mouse.
Oh my sack
Last week I discovered the expression "Oh my sack …".
A January 2014 example
Oh my sack! … from someone who was agape at the sight of outstanding natural beauty –
– and for that outstanding beauty there is, by coincidence, a beautiful word:
An October 2014 example
Oh my sack. OS X Yosemite is fugly. So fugly.
Last week I discovered the expression "Oh my sack …".
A January 2014 example
Oh my sack! … from someone who was agape at the sight of outstanding natural beauty –
– and for that outstanding beauty there is, by coincidence, a beautiful word:
An October 2014 example
Oh my sack. OS X Yosemite is fugly. So fugly.
I just realized it's when you enable the option to reduce transparency is when the font gets all bold and blurry. Looks like Apple still has a bit of work to do to get rid of UI bugs concerning the accessibility options.
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Bringing back some of the older icons
Hi,
I have used cdoc to restore the 3-D dock and now have found another utility that will allow you to change a lot of the system and app icons. You can get it here: http://www.freemacsoft.net/liteicon/
I found older version icons on Devient Art: http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/417708749
If anyone finds a utility to get back the 3-D buttons, please post the link.
Truly,
Emad
Hi,
I have used cdoc to restore the 3-D dock and now have found another utility that will allow you to change a lot of the system and app icons. You can get it here: http://www.freemacsoft.net/liteicon/
I found older version icons on Devient Art: http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/417708749
If anyone finds a utility to get back the 3-D buttons, please post the link.
Truly,
Emad
I did, for months.
No going back, because I was never tempted to begin using Yosemite for real work.
Simple: I continued with Mavericks.
I'm almost certain that the troublesome appearance of Yosemite the nature of customer complaints is without precedent. No Apple operating system before Yosemite has upset people to this degree.
That's true, and it's somewhat shameful. Adding to that shame: Apple's movement of some things has a logic that's either flimsy or ridiculous.
A few months ago I was prepared to spend my own money on an iPhone and an iPad. Then, Apple's JUne 2014 announcements of things such as handoff interesting, and clever, but I was simultaneously appalled at what the company threatened to do to the user interface.
No more. My money will be spent elsewhere, not on Apple.
A fughoff of Applestuff is not the ecosystem for me.
You may want to consider that the suggestions offered here may not always be addressing you specifically. For some people it very well might actually be as simple as "giving it a chance". Just a thought.
Most if not all of the quotes were from a duplicate topic.
My post was partly an attempt to summarise, for those few people, some points from amongst the more than 1,500 posts that were already in this topic.
Some of the past complaints about users' styles of writing, in this topic, revolved around things being presented as if those things were/are facts. To avoid such complaints, I was fairly careful to use words that implied opinion. That's why you see (your emphasis) "I", "me" and "My". It seems that my care backfired …
… but I get the general point. Thanks. And the repetition might not have happened if the stickiness had been more noticeable.
My post was partly an attempt to summarise, for those few people, some points from amongst the more than 1,500 posts that were already in this topic.
Some of the past complaints about users' styles of writing, in this topic, revolved around things being presented as if those things were/are facts. To avoid such complaints, I was fairly careful to use words that implied opinion. That's why you see (your emphasis) "I", "me" and "My". It seems that my care backfired …
… but I get the general point. Thanks. And the repetition might not have happened if the stickiness had been more noticeable.
I called Apple Support and they got ahold of iTunes support. Apparently it was hidden. I now see it and all the other apps in my Purchases. Thanks for your help.
My push notifications are so difficult to read! It strains my eyes. I had no problems with Mavericks. I'm still debating on whether to downgrade because I do like the new features in OS X Yosemite and Safari is faster. This really sucks.
Btw, I just got my Push Notifications to work. You need to go into Safari Preferences and tick off "Allow" and then "Deny" and then "Allow" again. Finally works.
Btw, I just got my Push Notifications to work. You need to go into Safari Preferences and tick off "Allow" and then "Deny" and then "Allow" again. Finally works.
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Here's another comparison of the menu bar font with first default settings, then reduced transparency, and finally increased contrast. It seems only in the second case, reduced transparency without also enabling the option of increased contrast, something is going horribly wrong:
Which button?
Apologies for the near-endless noise from me, but this is timely
First impressions
Which one is pressed?
If you had not previously used Yosemite, would your single-word answer be the same?
(Reply under https://alpha.app.net/grahamperrin/post/41947436 if you like I shouldn't encourage one-word answers in this already noisy topic.)
Apologies for the near-endless noise from me, but this is timely
First impressions
Which one is pressed?
If you had not previously used Yosemite, would your single-word answer be the same?
(Reply under https://alpha.app.net/grahamperrin/post/41947436 if you like I shouldn't encourage one-word answers in this already noisy topic.)
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The shot was not from my Mac (I use Mavericks), I simply pasted a block of grey over part someone else's shot.
If the image that I posted has a button that appears bolder than yours, it's probably because the person who took the shot was attempting to make Yosemite more usable.
Increase Interface Contrast in OS X Yosemite to Improve Usability a few interesting comments there.
Ah ok...
But still, I have no idea what that person did to have the text so bold (which is indeed confusing), because I have tried these so-called tips including LCD font smoothing and none of them made the text bolder on my notification panel.
On my mac I've only turned off transparency not because it made things hard to read, but because it takes a bit more cpu and I prefer efficiency over a cosmetic enhancement. I thought I would like dark mode but I prefer the "normal" one.
In fairness to Apple: the confusion was immediately obvious to me, months ago, but I have no recollection of giving feedback on the problem.
Other things were so ghastly – I found so much wrong with Apple's direction – that I assumed no point in giving feedback.
(If respectable feedback is what's desired, then please begin by giving the tester a relatively respectable product. What I received was too far from respectable … I suspected wilful ignorance, by Apple, of past mistakes.)
Less personally (and less fair to Apple)
With up to a million public beta testers – plus developers and other testers (no doubt including thorough tests within Apple) – I assumed that a few people would make the problem known to Apple.
The more I read of public reactions to the released software, the more I believe that the '****-you theme bulldozer' was effective – contrary to the better judgement of the more respectable people within Apple.
With emphasis added by me –
– I assume that the confusing appearance is a result of Yosemite's approach to improved accessibility.
Except "increase contrast" doesn't have that effect on text. Like I told you I have tried all these "tips", none of them makes the text as bold as the previous screengrab.
Understood thanks I don't doubt you. Real-world quality and usability feedback involves very many different environments, and this long topic might be not the best place to plunge into the detailed differences between your environment and the environments of customers who are affected by the problem. That said, my pre-release installations were fairly clean; I can't think of anything exotic that might have caused the OS to present, so often, the problem that's observable at the head of dmj102's screenshot.
My last post was a bit of a hint that Apple might have not received the necessary feedback from users in affected environments. But I think it more likely that Apple deferred such problems, to focus on first impressions for users who do not think of themselves as having accessibility issues.
Is it wrong to be still using Snow Leopard 10.6.8? It doesn't feel wrong reading this thread.
I never used Leopard or previous incarnations but was there this much upset in the initial phase?
From a few recent comments from Johnny Ive I get the feelings the hand bags are in control.
I never used Leopard or previous incarnations but was there this much upset in the initial phase?
From a few recent comments from Johnny Ive I get the feelings the hand bags are in control.
If you want to be in a state of sin, you need to be running 10.4.11 or earlier. That'll still let you do System 9.2 in emulation mode.
Off-topic: use of Snow Leopard is neither wrong nor right
Neither wrong nor right.
Users of Snow Leopard and less should be prepared to find sources other than Apple if they require protection against vulnerabilities such as CVE-2014-6271 and CVE-2014-7169, and so on.
General use of Mac OS X 10.6.8 is quite off-topic from the appearance of Yosemite, so for a more detailed answer, please ask under OS X (there's not, or no longer, a sub-forum for Snow Leopard).
Neither wrong nor right.
Users of Snow Leopard and less should be prepared to find sources other than Apple if they require protection against vulnerabilities such as CVE-2014-6271 and CVE-2014-7169, and so on.
General use of Mac OS X 10.6.8 is quite off-topic from the appearance of Yosemite, so for a more detailed answer, please ask under OS X (there's not, or no longer, a sub-forum for Snow Leopard).
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