iPhone 8/Plus You'll have to pry my 8 Plus from my cold dead hands

[NorthSeaBeach]

For the record, I think for some who do have an iPhone 8+, {such as yourself}, some simply can’t afford the most expensive iPhone, which there is nothing wrong with having an older model iPhone, essentially when they all really do the same thing, it just is the separation of some exclusive features for the higher end models.

In a way that's true. I don't like contracts so I pay for the phone in full. Technically spoken I'm easily able to spend €1259 + 229 (Applecare+) for the max instead of €799 + 169 for the 8+. I'm pretty sure I'd like the max better if money was no factor, but I'm not that rich that a €500 difference doesn't mean a thing to me. To me that's a lot of money. If I were convinced of the benefits of the max over the 8+, I wouldn't hesitate to spend the extra cash. But I'm not (yet).

The upgrades on the max, except for it's looks, don't mean that much to me. Of those upgrades, the camera is the most important to me. But then again the 8+, although a little less, is pretty good too in that department.
The max doesn't do anything with that big screen, like splitscreen or pip, that the 8+ can't. It's just bigger. Which is nice when looking at video's, but that's about it. And 90% of my time on the phone is reading against white backgrounds.

I'm just not sure if the max is worth an extra €500 to me. Especially not with the antenna problem that Apple is still silent about and the oled screen problems (eyestrain, off and shifting colours). And the knowledge that we're only 11 months away from the next latest and greatest. Still on the fence.

 

[PBz]

In a way that's true. I don't like contracts so I pay for the phone in full. Technically spoken I'm easily able to spend €1259 + 229 (Applecare+) for the max instead of €799 + 169 for the 8+. I'm pretty sure I'd like the max better if money was no factor, but I'm not that rich that a €500 difference doesn't mean a thing to me. To me that's a lot of money. If I were convinced of the benefits of the max over the 8+, I wouldn't hesitate to spend the extra cash. But I'm not (yet).

The upgrades on the max, except for it's looks, don't mean that much to me. Of those upgrades, the camera is the most important to me. But then again the 8+, although a little less, is pretty good too in that department.
The max doesn't do anything with that big screen, like splitscreen or pip, that the 8+ can't. It's just bigger. Which is nice when looking at video's, but that's about it. And 90% of my time on the phone is reading against white backgrounds.

I'm just not sure if the max is worth an extra €500 to me. Especially not with the antenna problem that Apple is still silent about and the oled screen problems (eyestrain, off and shifting colours). And the knowledge that we're only 11 months away from the next latest and greatest. Still on the fence.

Agree that the only real advantage the XSM holds over the XS is with video. Reading texts is a wash. I don’t play games so that’s a wash to me. The XSM would be bit better for photo editing but the biggie is video. If you don’t watch a significant amount of video on your phone the XSM is a lot of bulk without much in return.

 

[iScone]

My gf thinks the 8+ is great but had to concede when my XS Max arrived. It’s inarguably a better phone. It’s not even open to opinion - it’s just objectively better than any other iPhone that’s been produced.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but if you’ve handled a Max and think the 8+ is better, there’s something wrong with you.

 

[chadgio]

I loved my 8+. I love my Max more.

You do you, OP.

This^

I’m glad op likes their 8+ but it is not better than the max. The notch is way less intrusive than the bezels. You still get 16/9 in the same size if you don’t stretch the screen. OLED is obviously better than lcd and you can use night shift if you don’t like the cooler tone. My wife has an 8+ and the lower resolution is painfully obvious when I pick her device up to use it now. The camera is noticeably better. Processor will show it’s superior power in time. Face ID failure rate is very low and that does not make up for the added screen real estate imo. I tried to stick to the older style device also, but after having the max for a couple weeks I’ll never go back to those huge bezels. Never.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

My gf thinks the 8+ is great but had to concede when my XS Max arrived. It’s inarguably a better phone. It’s not even open to opinion - it’s just objectively better than any other iPhone that’s been produced.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but if you’ve handled a Max and think the 8+ is better, there’s something wrong with you.

Say a super tampon, able to filter 1000 gallons of lady stuff per minute, has just been released. It's better than what's around, but it doesn't make a difference to me because I'm not looking for such a product.

Maybe what I want is fast hardware, Touch ID and an LCD screen. Then what?

 

[neteng101]

TBH I think we reached peak iPhone with the 7 Plus. The 8 plus changed some stuff just for the sake of it (glass back) and by its release felt a bit long in the tooth.

The 8+ is just the 7+ with wireless charging. The 7+ is just the 6S+ with waterproofing. 6S+ is the ultimate release of its generation of iPhones. 8+ was such a pointless upgrade of a phone, what with its wireless charging... at least the 7+ water resistance is more useful even.

 

[AppleHaterLover]

The 8+ is just the 7+ with wireless charging. The 7+ is just the 6S+ with waterproofing. 6S+ is the ultimate release of its generation of iPhones. 8+ was such a pointless upgrade of a phone, what with its wireless charging... at least the 7+ water resistance is more useful even.

6S is underpowered.

7 Plus has 4 cores, a boatload of RAM, portrait camera, plus it's very speedy. Worth the upgrade from 6S.

8 Plus only has the wireless charging going for it. By the time any performance difference is apparent both will be outdated.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

My gf thinks the 8+ is great but had to concede when my XS Max arrived. It’s inarguably a better phone. It’s not even open to opinion - it’s just objectively better than any other iPhone that’s been produced.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but if you’ve handled a Max and think the 8+ is better, there’s something wrong with you.

On a technical note it’s most probably a better phone and it’s a nice looking device. On a financial standpoint for many it’s about as appealing as 4 tyre punctures in a month lol. People like myself can’t get out heads around that £1100 price tag for a nice looking iPhone that does the same thing as, well other iPhones lol.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

The main problem I have with the 8 plus is the size, the weight, and the bezels.


Looks outdated to me tbh.

Say what you want about the the notch but at least it looks like 2018.

Ha!! For real, do people seriously think this way? I cannot imagine looking at someone using a pre-X phone and thinking “omg, that phone is sooooo 2017”. I guess I’m not 13.
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The Bolded in your post seems like a bit of hyperbole. I don’t think anyone would literally ‘laugh’ or ‘Judge’ you for having an iPhone 8+, it is simply your choice of whatever phone you want, and not to mention outside a Tech forum, who cares what iPhone you would have? Nobody does. (And I have never Encountered anyone who has judged someone else for a Phone and no one should be doing this either, its sophomoric).

For the record, I think for some who do have an iPhone 8+, {such as yourself}, some simply can’t afford the most expensive iPhone, which there is nothing wrong with having an older model iPhone, essentially when they all really do the same thing, it just is the separation of some exclusive features for the higher end models.

RP, this is not an attack on you so please do not take it as such. You are possibly the most level-headed poster I have seen in the forums. It is just this statement in general that sometimes bothers me as I see many others use it as an assumption as to why people defend their choice of a device that is more cost affordable. While I don't at all believe you meant it as such, I want to address those who use it often in their defense against those preferring a phone other than the one that is most expensive. I think there are plenty like myself who have the money readily available, but willfully choose not to spend it on a product that is marginally better than its predecessors. I see a lot of folks waiting on the XR and I think a fair amount have reasons outside of the price. Many chose not to upgrade this year not because they don't have the money, but because they don't feel the Max justifies its price tag. With IUP and other programs, the phones are rather affordable. But many people are voting with their wallets more than ever. I have the Max 512, but I honestly don't feel it outperforms my fully paid 8 Plus 256 by $900 (the difference between the full Max price and what I would get resale for my 8 Plus). Louder speakers, better camera, taller screen, and OLED are great. But $900 great? Not for me personally and certainly not because the money is not there. I am blessed in that regard.

So again, this is not anything against you RP as you did not suggest the above in your post. It is merely that statement that I have seen thrown around by many others as an assumption to why people are not getting the "latest greatest" and while that may be the case for some, those who go straight to that assumption as being the reason I think are a bit misled.

 

[neteng101]

I have the Max 512, but I honestly don't feel it outperforms my fully paid 8 Plus 256 by $900 (the difference between the full Max price and what I would get resale for my 8 Plus)

What surprises me more than anything else is why people even bought the 8+ or 8... too lazy to plug in to recharge? Its the worse ever upgrade one could have made, next to the 3G, this is the most unimpressive iPhone ever released. It blows my mind that someone would consider the 8/8+ as the best ever - its a was ran product that got a new feature just so there was a cheaper price point in the product line last year.

If people learn to pick generations, they can easily get 3 years of service, I suspect the XS generation is like the 6S. Cost over time is very reasonable then - its more about picking the right generation. Obviously someone who bought an 8+ a year ago is having major buyer's remorse now and having to try to find a way to justify staying with the 8+ since its only a year old, but already far outdated too (based on a now 4 year old design)!

 

[burgman]

What surprises me more than anything else is why people even bought the 8+ or 8... too lazy to plug in to recharge? Its the worse ever upgrade one could have made, next to the 3G, this is the most unimpressive iPhone ever released. It blows my mind that someone would consider the 8/8+ as the best ever - its a was ran product that got a new feature just so there was a cheaper price point in the product line last year.

If people learn to pick generations, they can easily get 3 years of service, I suspect the XS generation is like the 6S. Cost over time is very reasonable then - its more about picking the right generation. Obviously someone who bought an 8+ a year ago is having major buyer's remorse now and having to try to find a way to justify staying with the 8+ since its only a year old, but already far outdated too (based on a now 4 year old design)!

Not everybody has to have the latest flavor of the month of any product to feel good about themselves (the real goal of marketing). If works for them, just like a toaster, it's good enough. Others actually prefer earlier designs or features to current models. Why is that so hard to understand in forums? Buyers remorse? Too funny.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

What surprises me more than anything else is why people even bought the 8+ or 8... too lazy to plug in to recharge? Its the worse ever upgrade one could have made, next to the 3G, this is the most unimpressive iPhone ever released. It blows my mind that someone would consider the 8/8+ as the best ever - its a was ran product that got a new feature just so there was a cheaper price point in the product line last year.

If people learn to pick generations, they can easily get 3 years of service, I suspect the XS generation is like the 6S. Cost over time is very reasonable then - its more about picking the right generation. Obviously someone who bought an 8+ a year ago is having major buyer's remorse now and having to try to find a way to justify staying with the 8+ since its only a year old, but already far outdated too (based on a now 4 year old design)!

I bought an 8+ the other week and came from a 6S because it was a good price and I felt i wanted wireless charging for convenience. I could have had a 7+ which would be a great buy too but the 8+ to me was a slightly better option. Not sure why I would care that it looks slightly older than an XS? It’s an iPhone.

 

[Mackinjosh]

My gf thinks the 8+ is great but had to concede when my XS Max arrived. It’s inarguably a better phone. It’s not even open to opinion - it’s just objectively better than any other iPhone that’s been produced.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but if you’ve handled a Max and think the 8+ is better, there’s something wrong with you.

It's very easy to argue that it isn't for a lot of people.

 

[ayres]

Edit: ‘the iPhone 8 Plus is the best iPad mini ever made’

My proposition is this. The iPhone 8 Plus is the best phone ever made.

No stupid ugly notch.

16:9 aspect ratio, like all TV shows, all movies, and everything on YouTube.

Big screen. (Not as tall as X/Xs/Xs Max, but when you continuously scroll, you look at the top of the screen, not the bottom. Extra screen length is useless in vertical mode.)

LCD with no PWM. (Meaning no eye strain for those of us sensitive folks who use the phone in the dark for long periods and need to dim the screen below 50% to perhaps 10%.)

LCD on iPhone 8 Plus is as good as OLED. (Well that's my opinion. I put them side-by-side and I can't tell the difference. And if there is a difference, it's so slight that it makes no material difference.)

401 ppi. Perfect. (326 ppi on the XR is fuzzy and acceptable. "Liquid LCD" is a con by Apple. Put an iPhone 7 Plus next to an iPhone 7 and you'll see the difference. I'm not going back to iPhone 4 resolution.)

Great battery life. (Apparently in theory the XR will be better, but that may be because of the lousy screen.)

Home button. (Okay, not that important.)

Touch ID. (Works every time, in any light, no matter what my facial condition or angle is, such as bleary-eyed and sideways on a pillow in the morning. And Touch ID is super fast. Doesn't work when finger is wet, but that's no big deal for 99% of people 99% of the time.)

No intervening screen to swipe away after using Touch ID.

3D Touch. (Not on the XR. C'mon Apple, it's really useful for quick shortcuts into apps.)

Two cameras for 2X optical zoom. (Not on the XR.)

Battery percentage on the main screen. (Yes!)

Fast processor. (I compared the iPhone 8 Plus with the XS Max. Speed is the same except for a split second or a full second here or there, but nothing significant.)

No connectivity issues. (None, nada, zero, zilch.)

Price is not insane.

And finally bezels. (Yes bezels. Get the white version and you can see your phone on a dark background. I got the black bezels. Big mistake. I keep leaving my phone in the car because I can't see it, even with a white case.)

So I'm sticking with the best phone ever made. I love my iPhone 8 Plus.

 

[neteng101]

If works for them, just like a toaster, it's good enough.

Indeed - and they wouldn't be on forums online - those sort of people don't care enough to come post about their phone.

Others actually prefer earlier designs or features to current models. Why is that so hard to understand in forums? Buyers remorse? Too funny.

Ah but here is where the truth hurts - change is hard for some, but in the end, change usually wins out. It is truly buyers remorse that causes some people to try to justify their position so they don't have to upgrade. If you care enough about your phone to post that its the ultimate and someone will have to pry it out of your dying hands... guess what? That's a reflection on the state of mind - and buyers remorse is definitely one of the top reasons for this sort of mental judo.

 

[PBz]

I am not making a case that one is better than the other. It’s subjective. My wife loves her X but she loathes FID, which works half the time for her. I bought the 8+ because I skipped the 7+ and it’s dual-camera issues (horrid noise reduction and colors/white balance).

I will be getting one of the new phones.. don’t know which one yet. The Max has the huge factor, the XS feels perfect in-hand and the XR has a single lens, which I like (no dual lens ‘math’ jacking up images).

I can afford any of them.. but still think 8+ is one of best phones Apple has ever made. Crazy fast, all black looks great, very good camera and great screen.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

Indeed - and they wouldn't be on forums online - those sort of people don't care enough to come post about their phone.



Ah but here is where the truth hurts - change is hard for some, but in the end, change usually wins out. It is truly buyers remorse that causes some people to try to justify their position so they don't have to upgrade. If you care enough about your phone to post that its the ultimate and someone will have to pry it out of your dying hands... guess what? That's a reflection on the state of mind - and buyers remorse is definitely one of the top reasons for this sort of mental judo.

So by that logic, people who have made the countless threads that the X, XS, and XS Max are the best phones ever also show a reflection of the state of mind? - and buyers remorse (perhaps cost) is definitely one of the top reasons for this sort of mental judo? Because your “logic” here would certainly not be confined only to one’s posting about an 8 Plus, correct? Interesting.

 

[NorthSeaBeach]

My gf thinks the 8+ is great but had to concede when my XS Max arrived. It’s inarguably a better phone. It’s not even open to opinion - it’s just objectively better than any other iPhone that’s been produced.

Sorry to pee on your parade, but if you’ve handled a Max and think the 8+ is better, there’s something wrong with you.

I think nobody disagrees with the max being objectively the better phone. Point is whether it is that much better that it is worth the extra €500.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

I bought an 8+ the other week and came from a 6S because it was a good price and I felt i wanted wireless charging for convenience. I could have had a 7+ which would be a great buy too but the 8+ to me was a slightly better option. Not sure why I would care that it looks slightly older than an XS? It’s an iPhone.

These forums can be great for finding solutions to problems, talking tech, etc. The downside is that you actually have people on here who define their status or worth by the phone they carry. They actually spend their days looking to see what other phones people carry. As if to suggest that carrying a phone with ‘outdated bezels’ is blastphomy. It’s funny when you think about it. Kirk Cousins, the Vikings QB still drives a dented GMC Savana van that he purchased from his grandma for $5,000. I’m sure he’s really worked up over whether a phone is dated. Hell by some comments on here you’d think he justifies his van because he can’t ‘afford’ a new one after signing that $84m guaranteed contract Just be glad you use what makes best sense for you and are not reduced to self definition by the phone you carry.

 

[neteng101]

So by that logic, people who have made the countless threads that the X, XS, and XS Max are the best phones ever also show a reflection of the state of mind? - and buyers remorse (perhaps cost) is definitely one of the top reasons for this sort of mental judo?

Yes and no - it shows a state of mind, but in this case its justification for the high prices they paid for these new phones. Still mental judo - just a different rationale!

 

[cornerexit]

These forums can be great for finding solutions to problems, talking tech, etc. The downside is that you actually have people on here who define their status or worth by the phone they carry. They actually spend their days looking to see what other phones people carry. As if to suggest that carrying a phone with ‘outdated bezels’ is blastphomy. It’s funny when you think about it. Kirk Cousins, the Vikings QB still drives a dented GMC Savana van that he purchased from his grandma for $5,000. I’m sure he’s really worked up over whether a phone is dated. Hell by some comments on here you’d think he justifies his van because he can’t ‘afford’ a new one after signing that $84m guaranteed contract Just be glad you use what makes best sense for you and are not reduced to self definition by the phone you carry.

That kind of talk is why some people have savings, and plenty of security $ while others are in deep debt. Imagine if you were to buy a new flat screen TV every year, new car every year, new furniture, etc? The people I know who have deep pockets drive old cars and use old(er) devices.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

That kind of talk is why some people have savings, and plenty of security $ while others are in deep debt. Imagine if you were to buy a new flat screen TV every year, new car every year, new furniture, etc? The people I know who have deep pockets drive old cars and use old(er) devices.

A good example for me is the guy who owns the company I work for. He’s flash in almost every way from his Hublot watch and the several Porsche’s he owns. He’s apparently worth over €100M with homes all over Europe. He uses an iPhone 7+ lol. I’m sure he’d be more than happy for someone to look down their nose at him for his sub par old iPhone but this is why it’s silly to judge anybody through a mobile phone.

 

[ectospheno]

I'm not entirely sure of the purpose of "here is my opinion" posts. Everyone has one. Not everyone will have yours. Everyone is entitled to their own. But you already knew this so why post? It is a bit like a grown up version of the grade school "I like you. Do you like me?" note.

 

[eyoungren]

This is my only annoyance with the 8+ or any massive phone for that matter!

Clothing companies and fashion just don’t design for people to have deep pockets to house these beasts. I often have to take it out of my pocket to either stop it sticking into my pelvis or fall out of my pocket completely. The larger screen is great in use but the portability is something you ever get used to, you just adapt lol.

I will see your pants photo and counter with my own…

Carpenter pants, side pocket. Also, the back pockets on Dickies carpenter pants are large enough to swallow the entirety of my 6s+.

 

[kargurin]

If I saw you dead on the pavement with the 8plus in one hand and a bag of Jelly Bellies in the other, I’d pry the jelly beans and thank God I don’t have to use that old tech POS as my daily driver.