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The iPhone 8 Plus is the best phone ever made


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I will see your pants photo and counter with my own…

Carpenter pants, side pocket. Also, the back pockets on Dickies carpenter pants are large enough to swallow the entirety of my 6s+.

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I don’t wear baggy jeans and haven’t done for years lol. They are not really in style here. Looks like a good fit for your phone though.
 
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I don’t wear baggy jeans and haven’t done for years lol. They are not really in style here. Looks like a good fit for your phone though.
Well, just to be clear, they aren't baggy. But I'm not into tight pants. These are just your typical off the shelf from Walmart pants.

But yeah, the pockets are big enough for me.
 
It's a good phone, yes. But the Model T was also a good car.

8+ still is, T-model used to be over a 100 years ago.
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I will see your pants photo and counter with my own…

Carpenter pants, side pocket. Also, the back pockets on Dickies carpenter pants are large enough to swallow the entirety of my 6s+.

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On this side of the Atlantic where I live, the 6s+, or any iphone with bezels for that matter, aren't frowned upon among adults. Carpenter pants however...o_O. I need a different solution if I were to go with a plus size phone.
 
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Funny considering the XS is only a year newer and very similar in use and performance. You can put the fishing rod away lol.

Yup, except for the massive chin and forehead, low res lcd screen, 1 inch smaller display, 67% screen to body ratio vs. 0, finger print vs Face ID. Btw, all present with the 6 plus not just last year. What’s funny is that you consider these things similar.

Lol.
 
The only things I don’t like about the X/Xs/Xs Max are the lack of a home button and the OLED screen. I’ve never really been a fan of OLED screens since they all seem to have a strange tint when compared to LCD. I can tell that Apple has tried to calibrate the colors on the OLED display to as closely match the colors on their previous LCD as possible, but the colors still look off to me. I stare at LCD screens for most of the day, so OLED screens seem very jarring to me.

Regarding the home button, I get that the home button is 10+ year old technology and we need to move on. My major gripe is trying to access multitasking on the home button-less iPhones. It takes a split second longer to get to the multitasking screen. I use it quite often and this often drives me nuts. I know it’s possible to toggle a virtual home button through accessibility shortcuts, but there’s an even longer delay when I tap it.

For those two reasons above, I actually went out the day before the Xs/Xs Max announcement to buy a 256gb iPhone 8 Plus since I was afraid they would discontinue the higher capacity after the announcement (which turned out to not be true). I was previously on the 6s Plus.
Have you tried the multitasking gesture post iOS 12? It’s much easier and more fluid now. Comes as naturally as pressing home twice (I think that’s how to access it - I’ve forgotten already!)
 
7+ still my favourite. Gave up my ipad pro as I use my phone as a mini tablet.

Not a fan of this glass back wave and 8+ not a huge leap over 7+.
X gave me eye ache and headache.
Max is too expensive despite what it offers + the panel lottery. And why:- is the OS magnified, does the home screen not rotate, have no extra features over XS?

As much as I want a nice looking and well designed product, I feel the X series has to be handled like a faberge egg which is stressful as it's so damn expensive.
 
Yup, except for the massive chin and forehead, low res lcd screen, 1 inch smaller display, 67% screen to body ratio vs. 0, finger print vs Face ID. Btw, all present with the 6 plus not just last year. What’s funny is that you consider these things similar.

Lol.

But are those differences worth €500? I guess to you they are.
 
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Yup, except for the massive chin and forehead, low res lcd screen, 1 inch smaller display, 67% screen to body ratio vs. 0, finger print vs Face ID. Btw, all present with the 6 plus not just last year. What’s funny is that you consider these things similar.

Lol.
My iPhone 8+ has a bezel but it’s not ‘massive’ like your exaggeration and nor is the LCD screen ‘low resolution’. TouchID is fast and serves the purpose for opening the phone and app log in/purchases. Beyond some aesthetic differences to the X it’s essentially the same experience so yes I do class it as similar. Not everybody here or in the non-geek world is a phone snob who judges purely on what the phone looks like. I think your view is rather pitiful if I’m honest.
 
If I saw you dead on the pavement with the 8plus in one hand and a bag of Jelly Bellies in the other, I’d pry the jelly beans and thank God I don’t have to use that old tech POS as my daily driver.

Other than a weaker camera what differences in daily use make the big difference? My 7+ runs just as well as my experience with the Max.
My iPhone 8+ has a bezel but it’s not ‘massive’ like your exaggeration and nor is the LCD screen ‘low resolution’. TouchID is fast and serves the purpose for opening the phone and app log in/purchases. Beyond some aesthetic differences to the X it’s essentially the same experience so yes I do class it as similar. Not everybody here or in the non-geek world is a phone snob who judges purely on what the phone looks like. I think your view is rather pitiful if I’m honest.

Agreed. I look at the 1080p, cool white LCD screen - not the bezels.
I do see the notch on the X series as it eats into the display
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The perfect phone for me would be a full screen SE with a better display. I don’t need anything more than that.
That really would be awesome.
 
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Yup, except for the massive chin and forehead, low res lcd screen, 1 inch smaller display, 67% screen to body ratio vs. 0, finger print vs Face ID. Btw, all present with the 6 plus not just last year. What’s funny is that you consider these things similar.

Lol.

HA, you are damn near tripping over yourself to defend a cell phone. You gonna be ok bro? Need some jelly beans?
 
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My iPhone 8+ has a bezel but it’s not ‘massive’ like your exaggeration and nor is the LCD screen ‘low resolution’. TouchID is fast and serves the purpose for opening the phone and app log in/purchases. Beyond some aesthetic differences to the X it’s essentially the same experience so yes I do class it as similar. Not everybody here or in the non-geek world is a phone snob who judges purely on what the phone looks like. I think your view is rather pitiful if I’m honest.

The bezel is a third of the entire surface area!
 
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HA, you are damn near tripping over yourself to defend a cell phone. You gonna be ok bro? Need some jelly beans?

I’m not an iPhone apologist, most of my phones have been Android. Including my last one, the S8plus. No I just enjoy making fun of dubious claims. The 8 plus is way more like 6plus with a bit more memory and speed. And the 6 plus is nothing like the x/xs.
 
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I’m not an iPhone apologist, most of my phones have been Android. Including my last one, the S8plus. No I just enjoy making fun of dubious claims. The 8 plus is like the 6plus with a bit more memory and speed. The x phones are not like the plus phones.

Perhaps, but at the same time the XS is not much different from the X in that regard. To many, the camera upgrades, chip upgrades, and overall performance of the 8 Plus is much better than the 6 Plus. If all a person can fall back on is the design being the same, then there’s not much I can say. People have different wants and needs. I feel the OP’s poll is a bit much in suggesting the 8 Plus is the best phone ever made. But arguments can be made on all accounts:

Some hate the notch
Some hate the bezels
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Some find OLED superior
Some are sensitive to PWM and prefer LCD
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Some like having portrait screen all the way to the top
Some prefer not having to stretch that far one handed on the plus
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Some love the new gestures
Some find swiping up for control center to be more convenient
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Some prefer the screen to body ratio
Some prefer being able to see more content such as battery percentage
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Some prefer true blacks and vibrant colors
Some don’t like dealing with yellow displays and color shifting
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Some feel the Max has great battery life
Some find the Plus gets better battery
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Some prefer Face ID
Some loathe it and prefer Touch ID
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Some are cool with the 19.5:9 ratio
Some prefer the 16:9 ratio
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Some feel $1249 + tax is worth it for a 256gb Max
Some are cool with their paid off 8+ and will roll with next year’s offering
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Some are having connection issues with LTE and WiFi on the Max
Plus users seem unaffected

This could go on forever. At the end of the day, if people could just be content with what they use and not feel the need for crowd sourced affirmation or to feel justified in their purchase, things would be much more civil.
 
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RP, this is not an attack on you so please do not take it as such. You are possibly the most level-headed poster I have seen in the forums. It is just this statement in general that sometimes bothers me as I see many others use it as an assumption as to why people defend their choice of a device that is more cost affordable. While I don't at all believe you meant it as such, I want to address those who use it often in their defense against those preferring a phone other than the one that is most expensive. I think there are plenty like myself who have the money readily available, but willfully choose not to spend it on a product that is marginally better than its predecessors. I see a lot of folks waiting on the XR and I think a fair amount have reasons outside of the price. Many chose not to upgrade this year not because they don't have the money, but because they don't feel the Max justifies its price tag. With IUP and other programs, the phones are rather affordable. But many people are voting with their wallets more than ever. I have the Max 512, but I honestly don't feel it outperforms my fully paid 8 Plus 256 by $900 (the difference between the full Max price and what I would get resale for my 8 Plus). Louder speakers, better camera, taller screen, and OLED are great. But $900 great? Not for me personally and certainly not because the money is not there. I am blessed in that regard.


I don’t disagree with anything that you’re saying, and my comment about for those who can’t afford to upgrade from the iPhone 8 to a higher end model, is also absolutely true. There are dozens of documented threads this year the members have openly admitted that it’s not in their best financial means to upgrade from the iPhone 8 or an older iPhone model to the XS, simply because these phones are financially out of their reach. There are some who can’t justify upgrading simply because they don’t appreciate features like a TrueDepth Camera, OLED displays, Face ID, new form factor, that’s all worthless to them, and I can understand and respect that.

However, I don’t want to have any false modesty either, when you do have those who also will _not_ openly admit that they want the iPhone XS, but they hide behind the fact that they want to upgrade their device because the XS is something they ultimately want. We all see that in these threads from time to time.

Apple has not made their new iPhones necessarily affordable, unless you factor of course monthly installed payments. But even so, that still likely not affordable for those can’t budget for another $45-$60.

For me personally, the XS Max was exactly what I was looking for, I appreciate all the features that are included, more specifically the larger display, but that’s how I can justify the price point, because it meets my expectations, for others it does not, so I see all sides to the spectrum.


So again, this is not anything against you RP as you did not suggest the above in your post. It is merely that statement that I have seen thrown around by many others as an assumption to why people are not getting the "latest greatest" and while that may be the case for some, those who go straight to that assumption as being the reason I think are a bit misled.

I appreciate the feedback, but I think my statement was fair in terms that are those who simply can’t afford anything past the iPhone 8 because of the increased price points for the XS. As I mentioned, Consumers will inevitably retain their devices longer because it does exactly what they need it to, which is why they won’t justify the price for the XS, even though they may want it. Those are the two things that are actually mutually exclusive.
 
I’m not an iPhone apologist, most of my phones have been Android. Including my last one, the S8plus. No I just enjoy making fun of dubious claims. The 8 plus is way more like 6plus with a bit more memory and speed. And the 6 plus is nothing like the x/xs.

Strange, you were making fun of my post and it wasn’t even a ‘dubious claim’. What’s the craic?
 
I don’t disagree with anything that you’re saying, and my comment about for those who can’t afford to upgrade from the iPhone 8 to a higher end model, is also absolutely true. There are dozens of documented threads this year the members have openly admitted that it’s not in their best financial means to upgrade from the iPhone 8 or an older iPhone model to the XS, simply because these phones are financially out of their reach. There are some who can’t justify upgrading simply because they don’t appreciate features like a TrueDepth Camera, OLED displays, Face ID, new form factor, that’s all worthless to them, and I can understand and respect that.

However, I don’t want to have any false modesty either, when you do have those who also will _not_ openly admit that they want the iPhone XS, but they hide behind the fact that they want to upgrade their device because the XS is something they ultimately want. We all see that in these threads from time to time.

Apple has not made their new iPhones necessarily affordable, unless you factor of course monthly installed payments. But even so, that still likely not affordable for those can’t budget for another $45-$60.

For me personally, the XS Max was exactly what I was looking for, I appreciate all the features that are included, more specifically the larger display, but that’s how I can justify the price point, because it meets my expectations, for others it does not, so I see all sides to the spectrum.




I appreciate the feedback, but I think my statement was fair in terms that are those who simply can’t afford anything past the iPhone 8 because of the increased price points for the XS. As I mentioned, Consumers will inevitably retain their devices longer because it does exactly what they need it to, which is why they won’t justify the price for the XS, even though they may want it. Those are the two things that are actually mutually exclusive.
I’m with you 100% and I absolutely think your statement is more than fair. I too have seen both sides in justications for or against models with price being a huge component. I had a flashback to when I defended the 8 Plus as a capable phone last year, and was immediately told it was because I couldn’t afford the X (some random member). Your statement, while completely true in your context, just happened to make me think of the minority of members here who immediately assume that’s the case. I feel bad quoting you now because you were on point completely. I was using that one sentence to try and drown out the minority who immediately think getting a cheaper phone is because one is poor. I find it offensive when they do that. I’m looking at the money equation as we type. I love this Max. It’s the best phone I’ve used. And I have the money. I’m just not sold yet that it’s worth, to me, $900 over my 8 Plus. Time will tell. But I hope you can understand I didn’t mean to come off a certain way. I’m with ya.
 
I don’t disagree with anything that you’re saying, and my comment about for those who can’t afford to upgrade from the iPhone 8 to a higher end model, is also absolutely true. There are dozens of documented threads this year the members have openly admitted that it’s not in their best financial means to upgrade from the iPhone 8 or an older iPhone model to the XS, simply because these phones are financially out of their reach. There are some who can’t justify upgrading simply because they don’t appreciate features like a TrueDepth Camera, OLED displays, Face ID, new form factor, that’s all worthless to them, and I can understand and respect that.

However, I don’t want to have any false modesty either, when you do have those who also will _not_ openly admit that they want the iPhone XS, but they hide behind the fact that they want to upgrade their device because the XS is something they ultimately want. We all see that in these threads from time to time.

Apple has not made their new iPhones necessarily affordable, unless you factor of course monthly installed payments. But even so, that still likely not affordable for those can’t budget for another $45-$60.

For me personally, the XS Max was exactly what I was looking for, I appreciate all the features that are included, more specifically the larger display, but that’s how I can justify the price point, because it meets my expectations, for others it does not, so I see all sides to the spectrum.




I appreciate the feedback, but I think my statement was fair in terms that are those who simply can’t afford anything past the iPhone 8 because of the increased price points for the XS. As I mentioned, Consumers will inevitably retain their devices longer because it does exactly what they need it to, which is why they won’t justify the price for the XS, even though they may want it. Those are the two things that are actually mutually exclusive.

I think some of the confusion here was when you quoted me in that post and it sounded a bit like you were suggesting ‘I’ couldn’t afford an XS. If you were suggesting people anonymously then fair enough.
 
You do realize that not being able to justify the price of the max over the 8+ as a reason for not getting the max differs from not being able to afford one?

You yourself stated those reasons are mutually exclusive.
 
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I’m with you 100% and I absolutely think your statement is more than fair. I too have seen both sides in justications for or against models with price being a huge component. I had a flashback to when I defended the 8 Plus as a capable phone last year, and was immediately told it was because I couldn’t afford the X (some random member). Your statement, while completely true in your context, just happened to make me think of the minority of members here who immediately assume that’s the case. I feel bad quoting you now because you were on point completely. I was using that one sentence to try and drown out the minority who immediately think getting a cheaper phone is because one is poor. I find it offensive when they do that. I’m looking at the money equation as we type. I love this Max. It’s the best phone I’ve used. And I have the money. I’m just not sold yet that it’s worth, to me, $900 over my 8 Plus. Time will tell. But I hope you can understand I didn’t mean to come off a certain way. I’m with ya.

I Appreciate the solid discussion. Too many times other members want to attack each other over which device they ‘think is the best’ because of how much money they actually spent on it. The reality is, whatever device someone chooses to use *is* the best device for their needs. If you look on the first page of this thread, I quoted the OP stating ‘That’s great that they think iPhone 8 is the best iPhone, when my response was I think iPhone XS Max is the best iPhone to date’. But my point is, we all have different appreciation for different things, and iPhones are only as good as what we want to make of our daily usage with it. Some have an appreciation for the iPhone SE, which doesn’t include all the technological advancements that the latest iPhones do, but you have those who just appreciate the four-inch form factor, another example of why we all like and appreciate various features about current iPhones.

Believe me, I am a huge Apple enthusiast, I own most of their latest products with Apple Watch, AirPods, iPhone, iPad, etc. But I also don’t agree with exorbitant price point influx every single year. And I can understand for those who can’t justify the price if they don’t appreciate certain tech or features with the latest products.
 
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Ofcourse if you mean by not being able to afford it, those who don't blink once or feel itchy about spending €500, then OK. But that's a large minority.
 
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