2006/2007 Mac Pro (1,1/2,1) and OS X El Capitan

[cdmawolf]

Yeah, it won't prompt for login name & password

Does it think it is a 2 display system and the login is displayed on the other(Phantom) display? While at the blurry screen switch the video cable to the other output and see if you have the login prompt.

 

[Ant3000]

Does the original install of 10.11.2 boot OK?
Have you booted with side panel off to see if any lights on riser boards - indicating dodgy RAM?

 

[rthpjm]

Yeah, it won't prompt for login name & password

I suspect the login window is present but you can't see it. For some reason your machine believes that there are two screens connected

Aug 2 05:10:47 iMac WindowServer[150]: Display 0x042735c0: Unit 0; Vendor 0x610 Model 0x9cd7 S/N 0 Dimensions 23.50 x 13.23; online enabled built-in, Bounds (0,0)[2560 x 1440], Rotation 0, Resolution 1
Aug 2 05:10:47 iMac WindowServer[150]: Display 0x003f003d: Unit 1; Vendor 0xffffffff Model 0xffffffff S/N -1 Dimensions 0.00 x 0.00; offline enabled, Bounds (3584,0)[1 x 1], Rotation 0, Resolution 1

The login window is probably showing on Unit 1, but it may be seen as offline?

Check the cable connections on your GFX card. If you have more than one cable connected disconnect all but the working one.
If you only have one cable, disconnect it, then re-connect it...

If the issue persists, try the following....

The blurry screen is normal in a multi-monitor setup, the second (not primary) screen is blurred until you log in.

Have you tried moving the mouse pointer horizontally. You will probably find that it will be constrained on three sides (top, bottom, and either left or right), but will move horizontally off/on the visible screen across one edge. That will give you an indication of where the "other" monitor is logically located.

Assuming you are at the login window, and that you know the user name and password: move the cursor off onto the "ghost" screen, click once, press the first letter of your usual log in name, press Enter, type your password, press Enter.

Hopefully that will log you in. Let's try and change your default desktop onto the screen you have working...
Press CTRL F2
Press the down arrow three times
Press Enter

That should launch System Preferences
press CMD F (also known as Apple F, also F) to get to the search bar of the System Preferences
Type Displays
Press Enter

Hopefully you will now see the Displays preference panel on your screen
Click the Gather Windows button

You should now see both Displays preference panels, move them so they don't overlap
Now click the Arrangement button
Drag the white bar (representing the menu bar) from the current screen rectangle to the other screen rectangle

That should set your active display as your main desktop...

 

[cdmawolf]

Yeah, it won't prompt for login name & password

Geez, my internet is freekie...what he said

 

[Apple Master]

Hi everyone,

Well, nothing seems to work for me.
Brief history:

• I bought a Mac Pro 1,1 from a friend, with the following specs:
  • Dual-Quad Xeon 3.0GHz
  • 32GB RAM
  • Flashed ATI 5770
  • ROM flashed to Mac Pro 2,1
• My friend created an USB installer for 10.11.2 at the time of purchase
• I installed 10.11.2 using his USB successfully, but was afraid later to update

Now I found this thread (thanks guys, you are AWESOME), but I can't somehow install a newer version (tried 10.11.5, 10.11.6).

This is what I tried so far, and how those methods failed:


create USB installer of 10.11.5 using pikify script from rthpjm:
won't boot, can't reach installer screen

create USB installer of 10.11.6 using pikify script from rthpjm:
seems to reach installer screen, but no window appears, only grey screen (will attach photo soon if needed)

install 10.11.5 onto ssd using MacBook8,1, replace boot.efi files manually:
boots to login screen, but nothing shows, only blurred background (photo attached, also a system.log (renamed txt) from the ssd)

install 10.11.6 onto ssd using iMac11,3, then ran pikify.pkg on it:
same as above

create installer of 10.11.6 onto 9gb partition:
boot screen appears, bar goes through until 100%, and remains there (photo taken after 6hours being frozen that way)

Any suggestion guys?

Thank you, keep up the good work @rthpjm !

I installed a patched version of Yosemite on a USB Flash drive no problem.

When I tried to do it with El Capitan I did the same method and it would never finishing booting off the flash drive. The progress bar would just sit there stuck.

Then I restored the dmg file to a SSD drive and replaced the2 boot.efi files with pikers and then it finally worked. It appears that it might be best to do the restore to a real spindle drive or SSD drive, and then copy those files over to a USB for later installations.

Here is a good youtube link with directions in the description here:

Then I installed the 10.11.6 update from the app store and it would not boot again. I then rebooted back in lion, and then replaced the boot.efi files again and then I finally got the 10.11.6 update.

All in all its a big PITA to do this and the directions all over this site are *****.

I hope for Sierra that there is a patched one file install.

 

[Ant3000]

"All in all its a big PITA to do this and the directions all over this site are *****.
I hope for Sierra that there is a patched one file install."

I suggest you direct this towards Apple - many on this site give their time to this project and provide clear instructions many of us can follow and try to learn from. None of this is as easy as clicking a single button - if it was, don't you think that this would have been done already on a thread this long. The methods have evolved over time due to hard work and clever thinking by a small group of smart people who are also generous with their knowledge. Dismissing these directions as whatever ***** is supposed to represent, is at best, disrespectful.

I has also been pointed out that the restrictions of hardware will mean Sierra will be extremely unlikely/impossible to run on a 1.1/2.1 and isn't the same issue as trying to overcome the 64/32 bit boot efi issue, which was tricky enough.

 

[cdmawolf]

I installed a patched version of Yosemite on a USB Flash drive no problem.

When I tried to do it with El Capitan I did the same method and it would never finishing booting off the flash drive. The progress bar would just sit there stuck.

Then I restored the dmg file to a SSD drive and replaced the2 boot.efi files with pikers and then it finally worked. It appears that it might be best to do the restore to a real spindle drive or SSD drive, and then copy those files over to a USB for later installations.

Here is a good youtube link with directions in the description here:

Then I installed the 10.11.6 update from the app store and it would not boot again. I then rebooted back in lion, and then replaced the boot.efi files again and then I finally got the 10.11.6 update.

All in all its a big PITA to do this and the directions all over this site are *****.

I hope for Sierra that there is a patched one file install.

What a *****. js

 

[pmjohann]

@Ant3000 , @cdmawolf , @rthpjm Thank you, I think that the multi-monitor setup will be the issue.
I have the main screen connected via HDMI (1920x1080), and a second display also connected via DVI=>VGA adapter (also 1920x1080).

I'll report back soon.

 

[Techchallenged1]

I installed Boot 64 and have 10.11.6 No problems here.

Why o why did I not use Boot 64 in the past! So simple.

TC

 

[rthpjm]

Geez, my internet is freekie...what he said

It took me a while to write those instructions and test them before posting my reply. It looks like we overlapped...

Great minds do think alike

 

[cdmawolf]

It took me a while to write those instructions and test them before posting my reply. It looks like we overlapped...

Great minds do think alike

I am glad you did type it all out, great stuff. I have to go for the "short 'n sweet" as I can no longer type worth a crap.

 

[Atlantic Dragon]

Hi I've been trying to get this to work for my Dad
We managed to get 2 new CPUs for the computer and a new GPU then we updated to Yosemite wich worked quite well.
But our magic mouse died so we bought the new one but it doesn't work with Yosemite so I followed all the steps to update to El Capitan. But It would not boot into it and Instead went to the recovery partition.
I was at a loss Because we had lost our bootable Yosemite partition.
Then I wanted to Put windows onto the computer because It is the only os I can use.
Couldn't boot from my 8.1 disc or 10 USB
so I had to go to XP because 7 or vista are too big for CDs which are all I have.
Went through the install It worked!
then I could go through the upgrade process
XP > VISTA > 7 > 10
But... Its 32bit which Is really annoying
Does anybody know how I can get windows 10 64 bit on this computer Without a DVD.

Thanks. For any and all help

My Dad's Mac Specs
2x Intel Xenon X5365 quad core 2.9 GHZ
AMD Radeon HD 5600
14 GB RAM

 

[Ant3000]

Could you hold option key at startup to select the start-up drive? Sometimes the OS doesn't automatically become the start-up drive. It is good practice to install on a clean drive to ensure you have a bootable OS to use if all goes bad - not much help after the event - I know.
Can't help with Windoze - sorry.

 

[Atlantic Dragon]

Could you hold option key at startup to select the start-up drive? Sometimes the OS doesn't automatically become the start-up drive. It is good practice to install on a clean drive to ensure you have a bootable OS to use if all goes bad - not much help after the event - I know.
Can't help with Windoze - sorry.

I did try to boot into the correct drive by holding option. sadly it just goes to the recovery drive.
I reinstalled Snow Leopard to try and do the installer again and I get an error telling me the drive could not be unmounted which is annoying so I don't know what to do now.

 

[Ant3000]

Do you have any Mac OS on there at the moment?
Were you running PikeYoseFix under Yosemite? How did you try to upgrade to El Capitan -through the Mac App Store or using a method described on this forum?
Do you have more than one HD in the Mac?
I assume you know about partitioning drive etc when installing Windows?

 

[Atlantic Dragon]

Do you have any Mac OS on there at the moment?
Were you running PikeYoseFix under Yosemite? How did you try to upgrade to El Capitan -through the Mac App Store or using a method described on this forum?
Do you have more than one HD in the Mac?
I assume you know about partitioning drive etc when installing Windows?

I understand all about partitioning and hardware I built my own PC.
I'm trying not to sound like a dick but I'm the one who installed 2 new processors and updated the flash on the computer from 1.1 to 2.1 when I was 14 (not my dad). and I have a very good understanding of software. More on windows than OSX But I have been modding menu bars and I even dissected the (forgot the name but the thing where all of the graphics for the system are stored) and built my own custom theme for the computer. and distributed to my friends at school 2-3 years ago.
(I don't have that laptop anymore)(it didn't belong to me)

Back onto the topic of the Mac I'm trying to fix. I cannot remember the mod I did for Yosemite I had tried doing It manually first editing plists to add the hardware to the supported machines... But that ultimately failed so then I moved to using a premade installer. that was a year ago.
I used pikify to build the installer to a USB and that had worked. I booted to It and went through the entire process When I tried to boot to the installation I took me to the recovery (yes I pressed alt) I thought that maybe that I could reinstall from the recovery partition,I waited the ridiculous 20 hrs and I found it back at the recovery partition (again It had failed to boot Then I installed snow leopard to another drive I had borrowed out of my PC that was empty and put snow leopard on that and a partition for Bootcamp.
I tried doing the Pikify from snow leopard and It didn't work It gave me the error couldn't unmount (even though there was nothing else using it.

Thanks For any and all help
(sorry I'm terrible at writing)

 

[Ant3000]

Hi, sorry if I was asking obvious questions, but it's hard to tell what level of knowledge people have.
I have installed El Cap twice now using the instructions at post 1390 - 1391 and it has worked well both times. I built the installer on my MacBook Pro onto an 8gb USB drive. The script to create the installer has been updated in past few months so may be worth downloading a new copy and trying again. Problem is, from Snow Leopard you will probably get a message saying this Mac is not supported and so won't be able to download the installer from The Mac App Store. Do you have a supported Mac you can download it to? There can be issues using the same installer twice - I just created a new installer using the latest version available at the time.

If not, there is a link in last few days to someone with a pre patched El Capitan but as I am sure you know, there are risks on doing this as the security of it cannot be guaranteed. Having said that I downloaded the pre patched Yosemite installer (perhaps the same one you used) and it seemed to work OK - this would at least give you the ability to download El Cap and create your own installer if you prefer. I am sure you know the things to check are GPU compatibility and no 512mb RAM modules - with 14gb RAM you should be fine. There is a script to protect the boot.efi files called Boot64 which should be used before updating El Capitan - but you will perhaps have the latest version anyway.

I always installed not a fresh HD or SSD and then migrated data as necessary.

Good luck.

 

[cdmawolf]

I understand all about partitioning and hardware I built my own PC.
I'm trying not to sound like a dick but I'm the one who installed 2 new processors and updated the flash on the computer from 1.1 to 2.1 when I was 14 (not my dad). and I have a very good understanding of software. More on windows than OSX But I have been modding menu bars and I even dissected the (forgot the name but the thing where all of the graphics for the system are stored) and built my own custom theme for the computer. and distributed to my friends at school 2-3 years ago.
(I don't have that laptop anymore)(it didn't belong to me)

Back onto the topic of the Mac I'm trying to fix. I cannot remember the mod I did for Yosemite I had tried doing It manually first editing plists to add the hardware to the supported machines... But that ultimately failed so then I moved to using a premade installer. that was a year ago.
I used pikify to build the installer to a USB and that had worked. I booted to It and went through the entire process When I tried to boot to the installation I took me to the recovery (yes I pressed alt) I thought that maybe that I could reinstall from the recovery partition,I waited the ridiculous 20 hrs and I found it back at the recovery partition (again It had failed to boot Then I installed snow leopard to another drive I had borrowed out of my PC that was empty and put snow leopard on that and a partition for Bootcamp.
I tried doing the Pikify from snow leopard and It didn't work It gave me the error couldn't unmount (even though there was nothing else using it.

Thanks For any and all help
(sorry I'm terrible at writing)

Couple of quick things. (Please ignore anything you already know)
1) The Installer USB can only be used once.
2)Pikify is at V11, please use it.
3)The scripts for Yosemite and El Capitan are different.
4) a)Power off the computer and UNPLUG it
b)Push the power button for 5 seconds
c)Remove the side panel and look up in the top right hand corner for a little white reset looking button
and hold it down for 5 seconds.
d)Put the side panel back on and plug the computer back in.
e)Power the computer back on and hold down the Control, Command, p, and r keys and let the system
chime twice just to make sure it is reset and then hold the Option Key down.
f)At this point you should be looking at you boot options.
g) Post the boot options here so we can look at them.

Good Luck.

 

[Atlantic Dragon]

Couple of quick things. (Please ignore anything you already know)
1) The Installer USB can only be used once.
2)Pikify is at V11, please use it.
3)The scripts for Yosemite and El Capitan are different.
4) a)Power off the computer and UNPLUG it
b)Push the power button for 5 seconds
c)Remove the side panel and look up in the top right hand corner for a little white reset looking button
and hold it down for 5 seconds.
d)Put the side panel back on and plug the computer back in.
e)Power the computer back on and hold down the Control, Command, p, and r keys and let the system
chime twice just to make sure it is reset and then hold the Option Key down.
f)At this point you should be looking at you boot options.
g) Post the boot options here so we can look at them.

Good Luck.

I actually did all of the things above the first time. Reset the SMC and the other one the buttons are actually inside the computer just above the top ram module. you can slide your hand in there but be careful not to burn yourself as the Ram modules are little stoves.

Now my actual problem Is that I can't seem to use the pikify maker (whatever verb you would use) anymore
I was just discussing with my dad and we agreed to try the pre-patched installer after backing up all user data on my windows partition from the mac partition. (I still can't convince my dad to use windows). I will try that a bit later as I just woke up.

Thanks Guys for all the help
(normally it's me who gives the help)

 

[rthpjm]

I actually did all of the things above the first time. Reset the SMC and the other one the buttons are actually inside the computer just above the top ram module. you can slide your hand in there but be careful not to burn yourself as the Ram modules are little stoves.

Now my actual problem Is that I can't seem to use the pikify maker (whatever verb you would use) anymore
I was just discussing with my dad and we agreed to try the pre-patched installer after backing up all user data on my windows partition from the mac partition. (I still can't convince my dad to use windows). I will try that a bit later as I just woke up.

Thanks Guys for all the help
(normally it's me who gives the help)

If you have used a memory stick created by the pikify method successfully once already, then it won't boot a second time unless you re-bless it.

Unfortunately, one of the last steps that the Apple Install Assistant does is to bless the memory stick with the "standard" locations. What this does is prevent the stick booting a second time.

If you have access to another Mac, and the content of the memory stick is still intact, you can simply re-bless it

sudo bless --folder /Volumes/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan/.IABootFiles --file /Volumes/Install\ OS\ X\ El\ Capitan/.IABootFiles/boot.efi

Eject
Unplug
Re-plug

Reboot
Hold alt
....

 

[pmjohann]

I suspect the login window is present but you can't see it. For some reason your machine believes that there are two screens connected

Aug 2 05:10:47 iMac WindowServer[150]: Display 0x042735c0: Unit 0; Vendor 0x610 Model 0x9cd7 S/N 0 Dimensions 23.50 x 13.23; online enabled built-in, Bounds (0,0)[2560 x 1440], Rotation 0, Resolution 1
Aug 2 05:10:47 iMac WindowServer[150]: Display 0x003f003d: Unit 1; Vendor 0xffffffff Model 0xffffffff S/N -1 Dimensions 0.00 x 0.00; offline enabled, Bounds (3584,0)[1 x 1], Rotation 0, Resolution 1

The login window is probably showing on Unit 1, but it may be seen as offline?

Check the cable connections on your GFX card. If you have more than one cable connected disconnect all but the working one.
If you only have one cable, disconnect it, then re-connect it...

If the issue persists, try the following....

The blurry screen is normal in a multi-monitor setup, the second (not primary) screen is blurred until you log in.

Have you tried moving the mouse pointer horizontally. You will probably find that it will be constrained on three sides (top, bottom, and either left or right), but will move horizontally off/on the visible screen across one edge. That will give you an indication of where the "other" monitor is logically located.

Assuming you are at the login window, and that you know the user name and password: move the cursor off onto the "ghost" screen, click once, press the first letter of your usual log in name, press Enter, type your password, press Enter.

Hopefully that will log you in. Let's try and change your default desktop onto the screen you have working...
Press CTRL F2
Press the down arrow three times
Press Enter

That should launch System Preferences
press CMD F (also known as Apple F, also F) to get to the search bar of the System Preferences
Type Displays
Press Enter

Hopefully you will now see the Displays preference panel on your screen
Click the Gather Windows button

You should now see both Displays preference panels, move them so they don't overlap
Now click the Arrangement button
Drag the white bar (representing the menu bar) from the current screen rectangle to the other screen rectangle

That should set your active display as your main desktop...

Thank you @rthpjm , this was the issue, works flawlessly now

Have a good day, keep up the good work!

Regards,
Mark

 

[F1Mac]

With Native Instruments updating their Komplete line next month, I had to (re)upgrade to El Capitan on my 1,1, as the system requirements are 10.10 and higher. I took my SSD out and installed (not clean installation, direct upgrade from Mavericks) from my mini, which is compatible with 10.11 so everything went smooth. I replaced the boot.efi after the installation and put it back in my 1,1. Works like a charm. Now...how come my SIP is already disabled? Is it because I replaced the boot.efi and the OS took notice or something? I'm running 10.11.6 and haven't installed CapitanPikeFix yet. ...just curious.

 

[Ant3000]

I guess you had to disable SIP to allow you to get to the boot.efi files - you may just need / choose to enable it. I use Boot64 which allows SIP to protect most things but keeps the boot.efi safe in an upgrade. Are you saying it was already disabled BEFORE you changed the boot.efis?

 

[F1Mac]

I guess you had to disable SIP to allow you to get to the boot.efi files - you may just need / choose to enable it. I use Boot64 which allows SIP to protect most things but keeps the boot.efi safe in an upgrade. Are you saying it was already disabled BEFORE you changed the boot.efis?

I have no idea tbh. The only thing(s) I did was:

- install 10.11.6 from my mini (the SSD was external)
- put it back in my 1,1
- boot from another internal HD on my 1,1 to replace the boot.efis
- replaced the boot.efis on my SSD
- boot from the SSD
- mount my Recovery HD
- changed the boot.efi on the Recovery HD

open terminal:
csrutil status: disabled.

The thing is I never tried to disable it even once.


FWIW everything is working perfectly - I'm just curious how come my SIP is disabled since I never disabled it in the first place. I haven't even booted from my Recovery HD yet.

 

[rthpjm]

I have no idea tbh. The only thing(s) I did was:

- install 10.11.6 from my mini (the SSD was external)
- put it back in my 1,1
- boot from another internal HD on my 1,1 to replace the boot.efis
- replaced the boot.efis on my SSD
- boot from the SSD
- mount my Recovery HD
- changed the boot.efi on the Recovery HD

open terminal:
csrutil status: disabled.

The thing is I never tried to disable it even once.


FWIW everything is working perfectly - I'm just curious how come my SIP is disabled since I never disabled it in the first place. I haven't even booted from my Recovery HD yet.

Hi Morpheo,

There are two possibilities:

1. The most likely is that SIP was disabled at some point in the past. The state of SIP is stored in the PRAM (NVRAM) so that it persists over restarts. You can use nvram -p to print all the PRAM variables, one of which is usually csr-active-config. (On my system the value is %80%00%00%00, which equates to a csrutil command outputting enabled)
2. You may have used an older boot.efi file. I can't remember the exact versions, but I think Version 2 branch boots but doesn't enable SIP. Although I have a vague recollection that SIP does not work, but the csrutil command still reports it enabled. Therefore my best guess is item 1 above...