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eqvid

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Mar 27, 2018
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Hi guys, Been reading through this massive thread, and i'm a bit unclear as to what to do and would appreciate some reassurance..

So i have a 2,1 running 10.11.4 pikefied, running nicely, but would like to update with the "OSX Elcapitan update 10.11.6"
which i can see in the app store. I cant see any reference to a separate security update that the threads on here mention.

Am i going to have issues? Is there a post on here with instructions that i need to follow?

Any help fully appreciated.

thanks in advance.
 

krom33

macrumors newbie
May 4, 2008
1
0
Madrid
Someone knows if the new security update 2018.002 leaves OS X the Captain pacified inoperative. Has anyone tested the update?
 

the bug

macrumors regular
Feb 21, 2014
103
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Well... I'm backing up now.

Going to attempt and install the iTunes and Safari updates, but as far as Security Update 2018.002 goes...um... I don't think so.

Maybe some brave soul will attempt it, but I'm pretty sure that the 002 update will probably have the 001 goodness included, so I'm steering clear of this one.

If iTunes or Safari donks my system I will try to get back and warn others, but hopefully those two will be harmless.
Fingers crossed.

- Jay
[doublepost=1522375568][/doublepost]OK, I updated Safari and iTunes, after a quick check both seem to be working OK here.
As far as the security update goes, I'm not brave enough for that, I just selected to hide that one.

So now, in more detail for folks that didn't go through the 001 debacle (or just forgot) ...
... You will see one item called "Software Update" show up in the app store, DO NOT HIT THE UPDATE BUTTON.

Click on the link labeled "more..." slightly to the left of the update button, and you will see there are actually 3 sub-updates rolled into this one.

It appears to be safe to update iTunes and Safari, at least here on my system.
But once those 2 updates finish installing, control-click (right-click) on the text of "Security Update 2018.002" and select "Hide".

Do not hit the update button next to the "Security Update" entry, unless you are extremely brave, or just have some time to kill restoring your system.

Hopefully this helps somebody.

- Jay
 

swamprock

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Aug 2, 2015
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Well... I'm backing up now.

Going to attempt and install the iTunes and Safari updates, but as far as Security Update 2018.002 goes...um... I don't think so.

Maybe some brave soul will attempt it, but I'm pretty sure that the 002 update will probably have the 001 goodness included, so I'm steering clear of this one.

If iTunes or Safari donks my system I will try to get back and warn others, but hopefully those two will be harmless.
Fingers crossed.

- Jay
[doublepost=1522375568][/doublepost]OK, I updated Safari and iTunes, after a quick check both seem to be working OK here.
As far as the security update goes, I'm not brave enough for that, I just selected to hide that one.

So now, in more detail for folks that didn't go through the 001 debacle (or just forgot) ...
... You will see one item called "Software Update" show up in the app store, DO NOT HIT THE UPDATE BUTTON.

Click on the link labeled "more..." slightly to the left of the update button, and you will see there are actually 3 sub-updates rolled into this one.

It appears to be safe to update iTunes and Safari, at least here on my system.
But once those 2 updates finish installing, control-click (right-click) on the text of "Security Update 2018.002" and select "Hide".

Do not hit the update button next to the "Security Update" entry, unless you are extremely brave, or just have some time to kill restoring your system.

Hopefully this helps somebody.

- Jay

I would expand the updates, then hide the Security Update FIRST. I say this because, even though I clicked only on the Safari and iTunes updates, it STILL tried to start installing the Security Update. I had to hide it while it said "Installing...", and it stopped. Luckily, my system was OK upon reboot.
 
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the bug

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Feb 21, 2014
103
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Oooh ! That's a scary thought swamprock !

I hadn't really considered that, do you have "automatically install system updates" (or anything automatic) checked in the App Store control panel ?

I don't have anything checked so I'm not sure if that could be the difference, but yes that could be a deadly mistake, so thanks for pointing that out !

Maybe it's better to hide the 002 first, then do the other updates.

- Jay
 

swampy50

macrumors newbie
Jul 21, 2016
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As a test I installed the 2018-002 security update on my 2006 MacPro1,1 running 10.11.6 and can verify that it does cause a continuous boot-loop.
Be warned!!!


Hah.. I have a CCC clone on another hard drive and thought about this. Glad you did it first..

I can verify that a manual update of iTunes works..

https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

https://secure-appldnld.apple.com/i...-32EB-11E8-9560-CEB2B071F5CF/iTunes12.7.4.dmg

It seems for Safari...They want to send you to the App Store.. but no big deal as I don't use Safari.
 

swamprock

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Aug 2, 2015
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Oooh ! That's a scary thought swamprock !

I hadn't really considered that, do you have "automatically install system updates" (or anything automatic) checked in the App Store control panel ?

I don't have anything checked so I'm not sure if that could be the difference, but yes that could be a deadly mistake, so thanks for pointing that out !

Maybe it's better to hide the 002 first, then do the other updates.

- Jay

I have automatic updates turned off. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I do know that I only clicked the iTunes and Safari updates. A thought that I had was that it was actually telling me it was installing the other two updates, but the progress indicator was focused on the "Install all" button area and it wasn't actually installing the security update.
 
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Rocketman83

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May 29, 2015
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Skaneateles, NY
I want to hide the "Security Update 2018-002" update, but nothing happens when I right-click on that line of text. I am able to uncheck "Automatically check for updates" and all other boxes in the App Store contol panel.

I did download and install the new Safari and iTunes updates. No issues to report there on my pikified 2007 Mac Pro 2,1.
 

pagrest

macrumors newbie
Mar 30, 2018
3
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Someone knows if the new security update 2018.002 leaves OS X the Captain pacified inoperative. Has anyone tested the update?
YES. BEWARE. I performed the update and my MacBook Pro mid 2014 went sluggish, unable to open system preferences. Luckily I have a full SuperDuper clone. Restored from the clone and voila, just lost a few modified files.
 

Sko

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Oct 17, 2009
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Someone knows if the new security update 2018.002 leaves OS X the Captain pacified inoperative. Has anyone tested the update?
See my post above.
YES. BEWARE. I performed the update and my MacBook Pro mid 2014 went sluggish, unable to open system preferences.
This thread is about Mac Pro 1,1 and 2,1, please share your experience in the MacBook Pro forums.
 
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Rocketman83

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May 29, 2015
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Skaneateles, NY
I want to hide the "Security Update 2018-002" update, but nothing happens when I right-click on that line of text. I am able to uncheck "Automatically check for updates" and all other boxes in the App Store contol panel.

I did download and install the new Safari and iTunes updates. No issues to report there on my pikified 2007 Mac Pro 2,1.
Problem solved. To hide the new security update, I had to right-click on the body text below the update title, which then brought up a "HIDE UPDATE" tab. I left-clicked on that tab, and now the update no longer appears in the list of available updates.
 

glen4cindy

macrumors newbie
Sep 22, 2005
15
0
Even Newer:
The Pikify App.


Please treat the App as initial Alpha code. It's a bit rough, but it works. I might find the time to give the app a bit more polish, it could really do with some more error checking, there's no help file, etc...

Version 1.0 had a bug which took me while to track down.
Version 1.1 would not run correctly on Snow Leopard 10.6. Turns out I was using a method for 10.7 or higher!
Version 1.2 fixes the 10.6 usage
Versions 1.3 through 1.7 weren't released

Version 1.8 contains many fixes and better progress visuals

The current stable release is version 1.8 (build 7)

The App is not signed, therefore you may need to right-click on the app and select Open the first time you run it. This forces Gatekeeper to allow the app.


The same conditions apply:

  • You must have a unmodified copy of the Apple 'Install OS X El Capitan' app in your Applications folder.
  • If you are running from a MacPro, you must have 12Gb of RAM or more.


Notes: The app is designed to run from Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or later;
Tested on:

  • 10.6 Snow Leopard
  • 10.7 Lion
  • 10.11 El Capitan
    • If you are going to use this app from El Capitan, be aware that SIP prevents the bless command from setting the boot partition. There are two workarounds:
      1. Reboot and hold the ALT key down, select the Pike Installer
      2. Reboot into the Recovery HD, turn off SIP, reboot back into El Capitan and run the App again...

USAGE:

It's an app, double-click it (or right-click and choose 'Open' if you get a unsigned/unknown developer warning). The rest should be self-explanatory...

NEW for 2017:

Version 14 marks a shift in technique. With V14 the installation process is much simpler, becomes a single pass, does not require an intermediate installer volume (USB memory stick), and does not require the use of the EFI boot selector (which should be a great help to those people with graphics cards that do not show boot screens).

NO USB!

Also note: I have tested V14 on Snow Leopard 10.6.8. It will work (even though the video says "Lion 10.7.x or higher" as the starting point.


See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206886 if you are having difficulty finding a copy of El Capitan.

12Gb or more of RAM is required

I made a video


To use v14, pass the path to your target disk. Let's say you want to install El Capitan onto the Macintosh HD disk....

Code:
sudo ./createpikeinstallmedia /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD
[your password]

============== Previous Versions ===========================

Are now retired....

V14 can build on a USB stick, then you can install from there...


==================== Version 12 ==================================
Version 12 saves the unmodified software in a format that makes it easier to restore. Also adds more checks. The biggest change is that the disk images are now mounted on specific mount points so that my script doesn't conflict with the default mount points.

==================== Version 13 ==================================
Not released


==================== Version 14 ==================================
Version 14 is a major change in strategy. With this version you no longer need an intermediate installation media (USB memory stick). Version 14 emulates the way Apple is currently performing the installation. With version 14 you target the disk you want to install El Capitan onto (not the USB memory stick). New users should use v14. If you encounter any issues, please post an entry on this thread.

One really big advantage to V14 is that it will reboot directly into the installer. This should be a great boon for those people with graphics cards that do NOT show boot screens. There's no more need to guess how to boot into the installer.

The only exception is using El Capitan to install another copy of El Capitan. If SIP is active, then the bless command is not allowed to change the boot device settings (setBoot). This is a security feature and should be applauded, but it means with SIP enabled, you must reboot and manually select the installer...



++++++++++++++++ MD5 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

MD5 (pikify3.1.v14.zip) = e7b1699c8db8335c2331e1e8b247efa8
MD5 (PikifyApp-1-8.tar.zip) = 6ed325dd851b1baf681173621334db3f


Thanks so much for this! We've had this awesome Mac sitting gathering dust and been unable to use it. Now, I have fund this thanks to a YouTube video and followed the instructions and have it up and working!!

It took a bit of work. We were running Snow Leopard, so I had to upgrade to Lion first then this path but now, Wow!

Thanks!!!
 

rthpjm

macrumors 6502a
Jan 31, 2011
720
309
U.K.
Thanks so much for this! We've had this awesome Mac sitting gathering dust and been unable to use it. Now, I have fund this thanks to a YouTube video and followed the instructions and have it up and working!!

It took a bit of work. We were running Snow Leopard, so I had to upgrade to Lion first then this path but now, Wow!

Thanks!!!
Welcome....

BTW. THE Pikify App will run from Snow Leopard...
 

imercado

macrumors newbie
Jul 2, 2010
9
1
Just wanted to drop a quick "thank you" for keeping this thread alive and kicking. I was pleased to pick up this old MacPro and it's still serving a modern use for our 2018 church needs for DVD creation (Final Cut Pro 6) and FaceBook Live Streaming (OBS). My heart sunk when I naively installed the 2018-002 security update and hit the boot loop. But thankfully I still had good ol' Snow Leopard hanging around for its wonderful Rosetta capability for running FCP6, and you guys got me back on track with a quick kernel copy from my wife's (thankfully) 2017-005 patched Mac Mini.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled up About This Mac -> System Report -> Software and checked the Kernel Version. It's "Darwin 15.6.0". I wonder what kernel version is reported for a properly patched, supported, and booting El Capitan system. For the folks that are concerned about running a "hacked" Mac: Now you have another reason to laugh at your friends who have performance drops because of their Spectre/Meltdown patched systems ;-)

If worse comes to worse, you can always go the Windows 7-10 route (gag) or the Ubuntu route. Deep down, you know you want one of those shiny new black cylinder Macs, anyway :)
 

pagrest

macrumors newbie
Mar 30, 2018
3
0
Just wanted to drop a quick "thank you" for keeping this thread alive and kicking. I was pleased to pick up this old MacPro and it's still serving a modern use for our 2018 church needs for DVD creation (Final Cut Pro 6) and FaceBook Live Streaming (OBS). My heart sunk when I naively installed the 2018-002 security update and hit the boot loop. But thankfully I still had good ol' Snow Leopard hanging around for its wonderful Rosetta capability for running FCP6, and you guys got me back on track with a quick kernel copy from my wife's (thankfully) 2017-005 patched Mac Mini.

Just out of curiosity, I pulled up About This Mac -> System Report -> Software and checked the Kernel Version. It's "Darwin 15.6.0". I wonder what kernel version is reported for a properly patched, supported, and booting El Capitan system. For the folks that are concerned about running a "hacked" Mac: Now you have another reason to laugh at your friends who have performance drops because of their Spectre/Meltdown patched systems ;-)

If worse comes to worse, you can always go the Windows 7-10 route (gag) or the Ubuntu route. Deep down, you know you want one of those shiny new black cylinder Macs, anyway :)


In a MacBook Pro mid 2014 running System Version OS X 10.11.6 (15G19009) the Kernel Version appears as Darwin 15.6.0 too.
 

thierrybeginl

macrumors newbie
May 2, 2017
15
0
Someone knows if the new security update 2018.002 leaves OS X the Captain pacified inoperative. Has anyone tested the update?

I did. I had to reinstall the entire system with Pikify 3.1 v.14 and the boot was fixed again.
The v64 boot locker doesn't work either.

******DO NOT UPDATE EL CAPITAN Security update 2018-002 ******

It is not a security update, it is a boot.efi fix for 32bits OS X system.
(I'm on El Capitan 10.11.6 - Mac Pro 2,1)
 

KeithJohn

macrumors member
Aug 18, 2015
87
65
Glasgow
I did. I had to reinstall the entire system with Pikify 3.1 v.14 and the boot was fixed again.
The v64 boot locker doesn't work either.

******DO NOT UPDATE EL CAPITAN Security update 2018-002 ******

It is not a security update, it is a boot.efi fix for 32bits OS X system.
(I'm on El Capitan 10.11.6 - Mac Pro 2,1)

I did as well, Thank god for Time Machine.....:) I took out the HD and re-formatted it connected to my MacBook and then used Time Machine, first time I have ever had to use it, took about 2 hours or more as its on a NAS.
 
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cajohn32

macrumors newbie
Apr 3, 2018
1
0
Frisco, TX
Even Newer:
The Pikify App.


Please treat the App as initial Alpha code. It's a bit rough, but it works. I might find the time to give the app a bit more polish, it could really do with some more error checking, there's no help file, etc...

Version 1.0 had a bug which took me while to track down.
Version 1.1 would not run correctly on Snow Leopard 10.6. Turns out I was using a method for 10.7 or higher!
Version 1.2 fixes the 10.6 usage
Versions 1.3 through 1.7 weren't released

Version 1.8 contains many fixes and better progress visuals

The current stable release is version 1.8 (build 7)

The App is not signed, therefore you may need to right-click on the app and select Open the first time you run it. This forces Gatekeeper to allow the app.


The same conditions apply:

  • You must have a unmodified copy of the Apple 'Install OS X El Capitan' app in your Applications folder.
  • If you are running from a MacPro, you must have 12Gb of RAM or more.


Notes: The app is designed to run from Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard or later;
Tested on:

  • 10.6 Snow Leopard
  • 10.7 Lion
  • 10.11 El Capitan
    • If you are going to use this app from El Capitan, be aware that SIP prevents the bless command from setting the boot partition. There are two workarounds:
      1. Reboot and hold the ALT key down, select the Pike Installer
      2. Reboot into the Recovery HD, turn off SIP, reboot back into El Capitan and run the App again...

USAGE:

It's an app, double-click it (or right-click and choose 'Open' if you get a unsigned/unknown developer warning). The rest should be self-explanatory...

NEW for 2017:

Version 14 marks a shift in technique. With V14 the installation process is much simpler, becomes a single pass, does not require an intermediate installer volume (USB memory stick), and does not require the use of the EFI boot selector (which should be a great help to those people with graphics cards that do not show boot screens).

NO USB!

Also note: I have tested V14 on Snow Leopard 10.6.8. It will work (even though the video says "Lion 10.7.x or higher" as the starting point.


See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206886 if you are having difficulty finding a copy of El Capitan.

12Gb or more of RAM is required

I made a video


To use v14, pass the path to your target disk. Let's say you want to install El Capitan onto the Macintosh HD disk....

Code:
sudo ./createpikeinstallmedia /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD
[your password]

============== Previous Versions ===========================

Are now retired....

V14 can build on a USB stick, then you can install from there...


==================== Version 12 ==================================
Version 12 saves the unmodified software in a format that makes it easier to restore. Also adds more checks. The biggest change is that the disk images are now mounted on specific mount points so that my script doesn't conflict with the default mount points.

==================== Version 13 ==================================
Not released


==================== Version 14 ==================================
Version 14 is a major change in strategy. With this version you no longer need an intermediate installation media (USB memory stick). Version 14 emulates the way Apple is currently performing the installation. With version 14 you target the disk you want to install El Capitan onto (not the USB memory stick). New users should use v14. If you encounter any issues, please post an entry on this thread.

One really big advantage to V14 is that it will reboot directly into the installer. This should be a great boon for those people with graphics cards that do NOT show boot screens. There's no more need to guess how to boot into the installer.

The only exception is using El Capitan to install another copy of El Capitan. If SIP is active, then the bless command is not allowed to change the boot device settings (setBoot). This is a security feature and should be applauded, but it means with SIP enabled, you must reboot and manually select the installer...



++++++++++++++++ MD5 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

MD5 (pikify3.1.v14.zip) = e7b1699c8db8335c2331e1e8b247efa8
MD5 (PikifyApp-1-8.tar.zip) = 6ed325dd851b1baf681173621334db3f


I could use some help! I'm lazy/efficient by nature so downloaded the pikify 1.8 app and ran it and it ran without error and selected the black screen option and then said it was ready to reboot and then I got the following error message on the boot. Do you know of a fix or should I just build the OS back to LION and start over? I have a macPro 1,1 with 32GB RAM and 12TB RAID Stripped with an nVidia 8800 graphics card. Any help is appreciated!
 

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Sko

macrumors 6502
Oct 17, 2009
285
59
Germany
In a MacBook Pro mid 2014 running System Version OS X 10.11.6 (15G19009) the Kernel Version appears as Darwin 15.6.0 too.
Is this before Security Update 2008-002? My system version now is 15G20015. I guess it doesn't matter as the kernel version didn't change, just curious.
 

rthpjm

macrumors 6502a
Jan 31, 2011
720
309
U.K.
I did. I had to reinstall the entire system with Pikify 3.1 v.14 and the boot was fixed again.
The v64 boot locker doesn't work either.

******DO NOT UPDATE EL CAPITAN Security update 2018-002 ******

It is not a security update, it is a boot.efi fix for 32bits OS X system.
(I'm on El Capitan 10.11.6 - Mac Pro 2,1)
Hello Thierry

The issue with the 2018-002 is not due to the boot.efi file. (Boot64 and CapitanPikeFix do their job, and continue to do the job well). The 2018-002 is the second security update released this year, 2018-001 and the recently released 2018-002 contain many system file updates, including an update to the kernel file itself. It is the updated kernel that causes the original MacPros an issue.

The security updates are “cumulative”, therefore update 002 will contain all the updates of 001 plus any more recent changes from Apple. Since Security Update 2018-001 causes issues for our old MacPros, it is to be expected that Security Update 002 and all future revisions will also cause problems.

Please take the time to read post #1 in this thread.....
[doublepost=1522872024][/doublepost]
I could use some help! I'm lazy/efficient by nature so downloaded the pikify 1.8 app and ran it and it ran without error and selected the black screen option and then said it was ready to reboot and then I got the following error message on the boot. Do you know of a fix or should I just build the OS back to LION and start over? I have a macPro 1,1 with 32GB RAM and 12TB RAID Stripped with an nVidia 8800 graphics card. Any help is appreciated!
Hello cajohn32

As @Sko pointed out, the screen shot shows what looks like a REALLY old kernel being used during the boot process. (Darwin version 11.4.2 based on xnu-1699.32.7). I think something has gone very "wrong". Darwin version 11 is the designation used for the Lion series of MacOS (Darwin version 15 is the designation used for the El Capitan series of MacOS) - so it looks like you are trying to boot into Lion, but there is a residual parameter RAM setting pointing to the El Capitan installer location, basically the machine is trying to use an old version of kernel to run a new version of code. It didn't like it and it has panicked!)

Try to clear your parameter RAM, see my signature field below for a link to a post for PRAM and SMC resets... Then see if you can boot...

If you cannot boot "normally", or you boot into your Lion installation, then start over, try again with Pikify....

Please confirm that your MacPro 1,1 has at least 12GB of RAM, and that the RAM is properly installed in pairs of equal-size. (Edit: Ah, I re-read your post and I see you state 32GB of RAM)

Out of interest, once the Pikify App finished, did it present the option to reboot?
Did the crash occur during this reboot, or did you use the machine and make changes before you tried to reboot?


--------------------

For those that are interested,
The first line in the screen shot asserts the panic condition - it shows that the machine began to boot and reached the first running process which is always the launchd process (launchd always has the process ID of 1). it is launchd that has crashed. Usefully the panic also gives us a reference to the point it reached when it crashed, which was .../xnu/xnu-1699.32.7/bsd/kern/kern_exec.c:3546

So we now know that the kernel had a problem with launchd

Skip over the backtrace lines...

Then we see BSD process name corresponding to current thread: init

init is one of the very low level pieces of code that straddles the EFI pre-boot environment and the actual running of the kernel (that's a really bad description, but it will suffice here).
The next line indicates that the init process was given the Boot arguments "config=\OS X Install Data\com.apple.Boot"

\OS X Install Data is the folder on the disk that Apple/Pikify writes the installer software into.

com.apple.Boot is an XML/plist file that tells the OS how to launch the installer code

Then skip down to the Kernel version lines:
Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.2 is the Apple-friendly name, xnu-1699.32.7 is the alternate designation
We can also see that this machine is a MacPro 1,1

So the panic occurred, and gives us an indication that the kernel panicked. The panic line says xnu-1699, which concurs with the Kernel version lower down.

Using your favourite search engine it's relatively easy to look up MacOS versions and the corresponding kernel versions.

Kernel version 11.4.2 is the kernel from one of the versions of Lion.

It would appear then that @cajohn32 has probably interrupted the boot sequence.
A working theory is perhaps the "bless" command did not get actioned properly, or that @cajohn32 held down the ALT key after the boot chime and chose the Lion disk manually from the boot selector screen. This will have the effect of running the Lion kernel and Lion startup sequence. HOWEVER, the PRAM has boot args set to the El Capitan installer location.

When launchd attempts to run some of the El Capitan installer code, the kernel receives instructions that it is not expecting, causing the panic....

The correct sequence should be:
The bless command points to the El Capitan Installer location (OS X Install Data)
This folder contains a boot.efi file, a com.apple.Boot plist file, and a "pre-linked" kernel.
All three of these files are from the El Capitan software versions.
The boot.efi file will hand over to the prelinkedkernel file, which in turn is used to execute the unpacking of the InstallESD disk image, which in turn runs the Installation process.

@cajohn32's problem then is that the machine is launching with the lion kernel then attempting to run El Capitan era code... BOOM

Clearing the PRAM should sort it out...
It will clear the boot args, meaning the Lion sequence will launch correctly
 
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