I’m holding onto my 2017 10.5 for a little longer, but I like where it looks like things are headed. They’ve said the iPad won’t get MacOS but iPadOS is getting similar functionality and will even be bridgeable now with the peripheral sharing feature.
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iPad Pro After releasing the new M1 iPads and WWDC Apple is a spineless and gutless company who can take us for a ride whenever they want.
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The only problem here is that Apple did nothing wrong. They just didn't do what you wanted them to do. Its alright man, life goes on and you still have a great iPad. Not worth getting all worked up over in my opinion. While I disagreed with you, I liked your refusal to accept that Apple wasn't going to blow all of our minds at WWDC. You win some and you lose some.
umm windows went from 8 to 10. What was so great about the update that it needed to jump 2 versions?
Whats different in windows 7 and windows 10? Apart from the UI, nothing much is different and windows 10 is worse in terms of settings.
I'm a digital artist, graphic designer, edits photos and videos.
Do you really think using an iPad Pro for visual content creation is more productive compared to a Mac connected to a tablet/pen display?
Or do you like to have "pro" apps on iPad Pro because of the form factor and not really because it's going to be more productive?
Even if iPad Pro runs MacOS, it's not going to be as productive as a Mac connected to a big monitor which is better for multi-tasking. People already already bitch about the 2-4 ports on the MBP. What will happen with MacOS on iPad with one port? Yeah, just attached an adaptor for HDMI, USB-A, SD-card, NAS, external SSD, Wifi receiver for Logitech mouse/KB, and USB-C for power delivery.
(EDIT: Oh, it has been done before. Microsoft Surface tablets running Windows.)
For me technology is simple. Is it going to help you save time or money, or make you more productive?
I see so many Youtubers talking about editing videos on the iPad Pro. Yeah it can be done. But ask those same Youtubers if they actually edit videos regularly on their own iPad Pro. Then reformat the videos to different social media platforms. Backup the videos. Create thumbnails with text. My mind hurts just from thinking of how much time is going to be wasted doing all that on the iPad Pro. You can do more and faster on MacOS.
I've relegated my iPad Pro to just drawing which is something that can't be done with MacOS.
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i'm personally offended that people go around forums trying to influence people's purchasing decisions by over promising things that apple has never promised, than faux outrage when apple doesn't deliver. Perhaps, I"m personally annoyed by the many many 8GB 16GB ram topics where people post just bad advice.
I never bought an Apple product, based on what they might do.
It looks like you're either reading into my post words that aren't there or making assumptions about me. Either way, you are wrong...
The iPad Pro meets my needs for the use case. It is why I purchased the device. That doesn't prevent me from wanting to see iPadOS expand even more. Both can be true as they are in my case. And I am sure is true for many others.
Yes, yes cancel your orders so I can get mine quicker ?
Apple is not going to allow you to run macOS on a iPad. The macOS is not designed for touch interface.
The only thing Apple could do is Dex like thing like Android has but will not as profit motive.
I totally get why some iPad users are angry today. But the fact is, Apple never promised any of the things that were “missing” from the keynote. Those were all things people conjured up on their own. Didn’t some Apple execs reiterate ONCE AGAIN a few weeks ago that the goal is to always make the best iPad/Mac they can while keeping it an iPad/Mac at its heart?
Apple’s goal isn’t to stick it to the Mac by improving the iPad. It’s to move all the platforms forward in tandem. Apple Silicon is a huge step toward that goal. Did anyone notice today that when they announced a new feature on any given OS, it was often footnoted with “and all of these new features are also coming to all of our other OSes.”?
Apple has been hinting at their game plan all along. It’s clear that a LOT of their long term goals over the last decade are now all starting to solidify thanks to technologies like Handoff, Continuity, and now, Universal Control. That takes a lot of wind out of the sails of the people who are rooting for their device of choice to “kill” some other product. Maybe it’s time to admit that this is not Apple’s primary objective.
Apple’s goal isn’t to stick it to the Mac by improving the iPad. It’s to move all the platforms forward in tandem. Apple Silicon is a huge step toward that goal. Did anyone notice today that when they announced a new feature on any given OS, it was often footnoted with “and all of these new features are also coming to all of our other OSes.”?
Apple has been hinting at their game plan all along. It’s clear that a LOT of their long term goals over the last decade are now all starting to solidify thanks to technologies like Handoff, Continuity, and now, Universal Control. That takes a lot of wind out of the sails of the people who are rooting for their device of choice to “kill” some other product. Maybe it’s time to admit that this is not Apple’s primary objective.
I think Apple is allowing third party programmers to make apps for M1.
Well Apple well really well make an app similar to say photoshop level and really good video editing app but such pro app cannot be made in year.
Exactly and at least on Mac/Linux/Windows, the OS can swap to storage if it doesn't have enough physical RAM. iOS doesn't have swap.
I've got a refurb 2018 12.9 1TB and 2021 12.9 1TB on hand right now. The 2018 does reload less than my 2017 12.9 512GB. However, I've yet to have a single reload on the 2021 (granted, I do force close unneeded apps). To me, that's very welcome behavior over the uncertainty of which apps/tabs will reload and which will remain in memory on iOS devices with less RAM.
At least try to understand one thing. The iPad has kb and mouse inputs in addition to touch interface. Guess which macOS supports really well?? This whole argument of touch interface and macs means squat.
That said even being able to just sign and markup docs in macOS would be worthwhile. I couldn’t care about macOS ui being less than optimal for finger touch input. I’m using a kb and mouse.
Also ios isn’t exactly designed for kb and mouse but that didn’t stop Apple from adding that support to it.
iPadOS isn't iOS. There is no reason that an iPad Pro can't have swap. I get that older and slower iPads aren't good candidates for swap but Apple could just gate it to being on with iPad Pros. It's not like you can't turn off swap on a Mac if you want to.
At time being it is going to take well very long time before most apps use 16 GB RAM and the power of the M1.
I don’t think programmers will spend money programming software to use 16 GB RAM that less than 4% of people of iPad market shares have. No profit in that.
Where as 90% iPad market shares use 3 GB of RAM or less today.
AAA gaming will never come to iPad or Mac as most hardcore gamers use a PC running windows. And no matter how powerful the hardware is Apple is making the software is about profit and that is where the market shares are at.
Companies make software for profit and go where the market shares are at.
Unless Apple really gives big incentive to get programmers to make software for iPadOS they will not bother. As light game like angry birds game and scrabble game is more profitable making than AAA game that less than 4% people have hardware to play.
While that's true, as far as I'm aware, Apple hasn't added swap support to iPadOS just yet. I'd like them to. I think even the 2020 iPP with 6GB RAM and 128GB base storage is a good candidate for it. Alas, Apple hasn't made that change so I just have to live with the way it is now.
Mind, I used to have a fixed pagefile set to 1GB on an older Windows 7 laptop at one point (8GB RAM). Alas, I often encountered Firefox has to quit messages because there's not enough memory messages. Increased it first to 2GB and when that didn't fix it, up to 4GB. On my systems with 16GB RAM, I don't have issues even with fixed pagefile at 1GB.
I think I have the same feeling after watching the show. I was hoping more from the WWDC, at least the extension for monitor. However, Apple didn’t promise anything when they launched the ipp at April 2021 event. It is true that people always say buy the product that suit your needs at the moment, not hoping something that will come in the future.
When people don’t understand profit margins..going M1 for their ipad pro is far better option than building another SoC
Nobody should buy a product in future believing that next software update will bring what you want
Next time buy after you see what you want. Apple didn’t promise anything
At least ipados15 is starting good with swift making apps and now limiting the Ram to 12gb instead of 5/app
Nobody should buy a product in future believing that next software update will bring what you want
Next time buy after you see what you want. Apple didn’t promise anything
At least ipados15 is starting good with swift making apps and now limiting the Ram to 12gb instead of 5/app
I'm saying Apple making Dex like think like Android has would hurt market shares.
Apple knows pro users and computer geeks are using iPad pro and Mac and are buying both. So is more profit.
My Mac will always be my first choice, but there are times when an iPad would be more convenient and portable. I would actually prefer to use my iPad when I'm traveling instead of a Mac. The weight and form factor are ideal for work on the go. I'm not expecting a full blown Mac with a touch screen, but I would like it to be more capable even if it wasn't as fast. I suppose what I want is a strong secondary device that can hold me over until I need the Mac to put on the finishing touch.
Nope, the lowest entry level chips are the Ax chips atm. The M1 is currently the highest level low power SoC from apple.
I would have agreed with this if Apple didn’t add iPadOS apps to M1 macs. Apps designed for Touch first and a mobile like platform.
Lack of touch isn’t a factor here.
Apple’s vision for the future of the iPad is. We’re still hoping they reveal what that vision is. iPadOS has been around since 2019 and it still looks pretty much like an afterthought of iOS for them. It has a few unique features, but they feel more like parlor tricks than unique features that define the platform.
Even one the biggest new feature. Widgets and App Library are largely what was missed last year while it was shipped for iOS.
I think the clearest way I can explain it. I wonder if Apple is running into a problem where they lack the bandwidth to cover all of the product lines they’re creating…
We shall see what the future brings.