I have accepted the iPad is what it is. It's a great device for what it does now, and I have accepted its limitations vs the MacBook Air I have. I'll probably always have a base MacBook Pro going forward for the better display and a base model iPad Pro for its better screen and speakers over the Air. I fortunately do not have work flows that require the iPad to be more than it is.
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I honestly don't really know how I would react to my iPad running macOS (or at least being given the option to); I just know that it's not something I have really been clamouring for. A lot of what I use my iPad for puts it squarely in the tablet category, and my main bugbear is that iPadOS apps pale in functionality to their desktop versions. But I also don't see how being able to switch over to macOS and use, say, google classroom in chrome would help improve the google classroom app on my iPad. If anything, it would just give Google one less reason to continue supporting it.
I can't really say who is to blame for apps like zoom, office and google drive still resembling their phone apps than their desktop versions. Is there something about iPadOS that is limiting their capabilities, or is it just laziness and indifference on the part of Microsoft and Google?
As for WWDC getting very few iPad features, I guess I kinda expected that going in, what with rumours of Apple going all-in on AI, plus the recently released vision pro. These two areas are likely going to receive the most attention from Apple in the short term at least. We know that Apple will never compromise the iPhone or the Apple Watch, while tvOS already doesn't have much they can give up on. So that just leaves the iPad as the most likely casualty of Apple's renewed attention in those aforementioned areas.
So no, I am not bored with my iPad. I know it will continue to work great for me (both at work and outside of work), I would have liked some further improvements to stage manager, but I guess a lot of this stems from me having come to peace with that the iPad is. If new features come, they come, but I no longer go banging the drum when they don't.
I can't really say who is to blame for apps like zoom, office and google drive still resembling their phone apps than their desktop versions. Is there something about iPadOS that is limiting their capabilities, or is it just laziness and indifference on the part of Microsoft and Google?
As for WWDC getting very few iPad features, I guess I kinda expected that going in, what with rumours of Apple going all-in on AI, plus the recently released vision pro. These two areas are likely going to receive the most attention from Apple in the short term at least. We know that Apple will never compromise the iPhone or the Apple Watch, while tvOS already doesn't have much they can give up on. So that just leaves the iPad as the most likely casualty of Apple's renewed attention in those aforementioned areas.
So no, I am not bored with my iPad. I know it will continue to work great for me (both at work and outside of work), I would have liked some further improvements to stage manager, but I guess a lot of this stems from me having come to peace with that the iPad is. If new features come, they come, but I no longer go banging the drum when they don't.
Why is this always a comment when Apple has shown time and time again they have no problem cannibalizing their own products? If they don’t cannibalize their products, someone else will.
Agree with this wholeheartedly. My complaints about iPad are primarily app-specific complaints. Why does Adobe hobble their apps compared to the desktop? Why does Microsoft not build a desktop class version of Excel for the iPad? The tools exist in iPadOS, developers just choose not to implement them because of diminishing returns.
I'm never creating a post again. While some of you atleast can appriciate what im trying to say, half of you must think im some war criminal or something lol. Adios
If you think this is tough, try Reddit. It’s the nature of enthusiast forums.
It's definitely laziness and indifference on the part of app devs, especially Google. They barely support their own products, let alone software on other platforms - IIRC the Gmail app went something close to two years without an update on iOS because they were fiddling around with Inbox and because they didn't want to put the privacy labels on it.
That used to be true…but Apple cannibalizing two of its products changes the equation. They really will lose money merging them.
Like I said, this is a tired discussion. If you want MacOS, buy a Mac.
I'd love to upgrade from my iPad Air 2. A new 13" M2 iPad Air sounds amazing, but there's no way I can afford it, so my iPad gets relegated to the few roles it can still fill.
I don't want to do laptop things on my iPad though. I have a MacBook Pro for that, and it's brilliant. The strength of the iPad to me is as an auxiliary to my MacBook. Loading large PDFs from engineers to have to look up things as I work on my laptop, to prop up on a music stand to display chord charts and sheet music when I'm playing bass, and things like that.
I don't want to do laptop things on my iPad though. I have a MacBook Pro for that, and it's brilliant. The strength of the iPad to me is as an auxiliary to my MacBook. Loading large PDFs from engineers to have to look up things as I work on my laptop, to prop up on a music stand to display chord charts and sheet music when I'm playing bass, and things like that.
I don’t necessarily want the iPad to run macOS, but I do want the ability to run macOS apps. Just as Macs are able to run iPhone and iPad apps.
Certain kinds of productivity software only exist on the Mac (notably, Apple’s own Xcode), while certain content consumption software only exists on iOS.
Until then, the iPad will remain disappointing because of its untapped potential, and Apple’s marketing that suggests that it can replace a computer (“what’s a computer?”) will remain highly questionable. Every year, every review says exactly the same thing about the iPad - amazing, powerful hardware, but of no practical consequence because there’s barely any demanding software to make use of it.
If OP feels that an iPod Touch XXL isn’t a compelling product for them, they are doing the right thing by returning it.
Certain kinds of productivity software only exist on the Mac (notably, Apple’s own Xcode), while certain content consumption software only exists on iOS.
Until then, the iPad will remain disappointing because of its untapped potential, and Apple’s marketing that suggests that it can replace a computer (“what’s a computer?”) will remain highly questionable. Every year, every review says exactly the same thing about the iPad - amazing, powerful hardware, but of no practical consequence because there’s barely any demanding software to make use of it.
If OP feels that an iPod Touch XXL isn’t a compelling product for them, they are doing the right thing by returning it.
And if you think it’s a tired discussion, don’t participate. I assure you, you will not be missed.
You know what’s really tired? People like you with their gatekeeping mentality. You have absolutely no right to declare what may/may not be discussed on an open forum.
I'm surprised at how many people are so stubborn to believe that Apple are suddenly going to follow their wishes, that don't make business sense, and do something that some people want. I'm also guessing that, if Apple did what those people want, almost no one would buy those hybrid products because they somehow still wouldn't be what they want.
They might end up losing market share to Microsoft if they make a success of their new Surface pros which can genuinely function as a replacement computer as well as being a competent tablet. I'm a software developer so need MacOS and since its essential to my business I buy a spare laptop instead of just a laptop + ipad pro. Currently my ipad is an old iPad air that never gets updated as all I can use if for is YouTube and netflix etc. I may end up buying the new Surface pro when/if the iPad dies as this looks like this can genuinely function as a tablet and a computer unlike the iPad pro. Given the choice I'd prefer an iPad that can run MacOS but if this choice is not on offer then I'd have to consider the Windows option.
I haven’t used an iPad in years. Just give me a phone with the biggest possible screen and I’m good. iPads only honestly made sense when the iPhone had a 3.5” display and was basically useless for most tasks. Nowadays the iPad doesn’t justify its size and weight.
They keep trying to market it as a laptop replacement, but it’s a terrible laptop replacement on the software side.
They keep trying to market it as a laptop replacement, but it’s a terrible laptop replacement on the software side.
Yes, and stage manager is another one of those pointless features that should have been an optional add-on via the App Store instead of inflating the code base with stupid features that should never have been on the iPad in the first place. The more Apple try to make the iPad work like a Mac, the more people are going to ridicule Apple because iPad doesn’t work exactly like a Mac works. If I wanted something that works like a Mac then I would’ve bought a Mac.
Why would I be bored with browsing the internet, reading the news, watching video on the most besutiful, thinnest and best device to do that?
What more does iPad OS need to give me?! Nothing! it’s perfect for me.
The M4 is a thing of beauty with its weight, thin design and amazing OLED display.
It‘s also making my M2 MBA feel sluggish.
What more does iPad OS need to give me?! Nothing! it’s perfect for me.
The M4 is a thing of beauty with its weight, thin design and amazing OLED display.
It‘s also making my M2 MBA feel sluggish.
Nail on the head here. If Apple released an 11" MacBook, you can get your bottom dollar on reviews criticising the user experience of such a small screen.
It won't, because there are already people who no longer own "a computer" in favour of owning an iPad.
Nonsense. Perhaps you missed the M4 review from the guy (Daniel, I think?) who said its ability to operate a multi-cam setup for his YouTube channel replaced the traditional setup that costs many thousands of £, which he had running through a Mac Studio. It can now be done from an iPad.
What reviews actually say is the iPad has more capability than it takes advantage of. That is absolutely not the same as it currently having "no practical consequence."
Literally nobody said that people shouldn't return their iPad if it isn't right for them.
Honestly you didn't need to say "I haven't used an iPad in years" because the rest of your comment gave that away.
And no, they don't keep trying to market it as a laptop replacement. It is a small but noisy minority of consumers who keep demanding that it should be a laptop replacement.
For the folks claiming a surface pro can replace an iPad as a tablet, what exactly do you do on your windows laptop / tablet hybrid?
For one, the UI doesn’t seem optimised for touch at all.
Second, how’s the app situation on windows? If I want to watch Netflix, is there a Netflix app for windows or do I have to go through the browser?
Third, size and weight?
I have seen some very nice tablets on sale.
However, I don’t see myself doing much by way of “iPad stuff” on it. It’s still a laptop to me through and through, and it would sooner replace my MBA than it would my iPad Pro.
I, personally, would love macOS on iPad. For what I do professionally, and for my hobbies, running macOS natively on iPad would be a perfect fit.
Nobody can tell you or I who we are and what we should want, regardless of whether or not it fits within Apple's business/product strategy for maximizing profits.
But as much as I want macOS on iPad, putting macOS on iPad is not necessary to take iPad from mediocre or good to great, and to let both Apple keep macOS off iPad while making most users happy with iPadOS:
iPad as it is right now would be capable enough for most if only Apple took every "macOS thing" that Apple has implemented in iPadOS and made each of those things on-par with what we get in macOS while optimizing the UI of it for touch and Pencil.
It's too many things to list here but really just a long list of very basic things, many of which are so inefficiently implemented into iPadOS that they feel like they're riddled with bugs even if they're actually just in dire need of patching and optimizing.
I always refer to this article to go through them https://www.macstories.net/stories/not-an-ipad-pro-review/
macOS on iPad would be great (for me). But iPad doesn't need macOS to be great, it just needs the many flaws and shortcomings of iPadOS to be ironed out, and for Apple to make Logic and Final Cut for iPad truly on-par with the macOS versions.
Well, I actually wasn’t underwhelmed with what I saw apart from the emoji and icon color ish stuff that Apple always tends to show even if it is cringe as cringe can be.
i think the updates to notes, free-form and photos are really great and the new calc is a bliss. Also the update to the control center and settings are welcome.
The thing that is a letdown so far is everything regarding pro app support. With the M4 iPad they showed FCP, great, but nothing this WWDC. Same for other Apps like from Adobe etc. Being a semipro photographer the missing link are finally support for Topaz apps such as Gigapixel and DeNoise and NIK and the like…. I know that the Video and Audio users are also in need of such support..
iPad OS as such isn’t so much a concern for me. Works for me and I do not need the “MacOS” on IPad.
i think the updates to notes, free-form and photos are really great and the new calc is a bliss. Also the update to the control center and settings are welcome.
The thing that is a letdown so far is everything regarding pro app support. With the M4 iPad they showed FCP, great, but nothing this WWDC. Same for other Apps like from Adobe etc. Being a semipro photographer the missing link are finally support for Topaz apps such as Gigapixel and DeNoise and NIK and the like…. I know that the Video and Audio users are also in need of such support..
iPad OS as such isn’t so much a concern for me. Works for me and I do not need the “MacOS” on IPad.
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This is where the criticisms really are justified and it's one of those things that I imagine would be different under Jobs — Apple needs to be working with these developers to get those third-party apps shining as examples of what's possible. They do this very well with the gaming.