From Apple Support: sorry, Its not Push..no fix comings

[SlapMonkey]

No, unfortuantely it proves that some of you that have comprehension issues need an excessive amount of hand-holding and coddling.

Just because the "majority" here on Macrumors mis-understood doesn't mean Apple was wrong or purposely tried to mislead you. The majority of people in America also believe in superstitions and fairy tales (a.k.a. Christianity) and tend to follow the rest of the mindless herd when voting in politics. So it's no surprise that people here read into things how they want to instead of how they actual are; and are now jumping on the "Down with Apple" bandwagon.

If you are still defending Apple, it is you who are the sheep.

As for your post, it is grossly irresponsible, and offensive. This is not a political forum.

Apple messed up, and we all know it. I have been an Apple nut for years, and spend thousands of dollars on their products. I encourage people to buy their stuff all the time, but this is plain wrong. Many people here would simply like Apple to put up some sort of explanation and acknowledge the issue, which they still have not done. It is very unprofessional.

Christianity to some people is not a fairy tale, nor superstition. Please try to keep comments like that to yourself. We are discussing Apple not faith and I don't think it's in good taste to mock a belief that other people may choose to live their lives by.

I walked into the Apple store this morning and everybody I spoke to including regular sales team, Geniuses, and managers seemed to be aware of the problem and informed me that it is being discussed by Apple as we speak.
I know not much will come of it, but this goes to show how many people have already complained and are unhappy with Apples farce!

I think that is exactly the point infowarfare (though more controversial) a couple of others and I were trying to make > That is, if people were able to use reason to comprehend what was actually written instead of using their belief system to infer what they wished were true, then there wouldn't be this controversy.

And Apple assumed (wrongly) that people didn't need to be babied this much, but apparently they do and they need every little detail spelled out for them exactly (though people will STILL misinterpret it as they do the Bible, which is the point I think infowarfare was trying to make).

And Apple making that wording change to clarify caused all of you to instead say "see, we were right! Apple is sneaky!" instead of realizing, no, it is the same exact thing as they have been saying all along, just spelled out for the more simple folk.

Come on guys, get over yourselves. There are much more important things in the world to get upset about other than "does my Mac Sync or Push."

 

[vandozza]

I think that is exactly the point infowarfare (though more controversial) and I were trying to make > That is, if people were able to use reason to comprehend what was actually written instead of using their belief system to infer what they wished were true, then there wouldn't be this controversy.

And Apple assumed (wrongly) that people didn't need to be babied this much, but apparently they do and they need every little detail spelled out for them exactly (though people will STILL misinterpret it as they do the Bible, which is the point I think infowarfare was trying to make).

And Apple making that wording change to clarify caused all of you to instead say "see, we were right! Apple is sneaky!" instead of realizing, no, it is the same exact thing as they have been saying all along, just spelled out for the more simple folk.

Come on guys, get over yourselves. There are much more important things in the world to get upset about other than "does my Mac Sync or Push."

so you watched the keynote? and read the marketing material?
and then you still came to the conclusion that Mac iCal to MobileMe(cloud) would only be Sync and not Push?

somehow i doubt it.

it's not reasonable for apple (or anyone - ie you) to defend what has happened here. it's selective and misleading marketing at the very best (dodgy, unethical, cheap, sneaky) at the worst its outright lies.
no reasonable person, having read the marketing material, and watched the keynote, would have come to your conclusion.

not good enough.
(although i really am of the opinion that the changes we are after (iCal --> MMe push) are in the pipleine, and either weren't finished on time, or something has gone drastically wrong!)

 

[chancee]

The reason I'm not arguing or trying to make case anymore about what a disastrous, misleading mess Mobile Me is, is because probably like many others my mind is made up... Apple will not be getting my $99 a year. Disappointed they blew it so bad, but time to move on.

 

[macDonalds]

The reason I'm not arguing or trying to make case anymore about what a disastrous, misleading mess Mobile Me is, is because probably like many others my mind is made up... Apple will not be getting my $99 a year. Disappointed they blew it so bad, but time to move on.

Good for you. Really. I'm one of the suckers that's still hoping this will turn around quickly. Otherwise I'll be gone as well.

 

[vandozza]

The reason I'm not arguing or trying to make case anymore about what a disastrous, misleading mess Mobile Me is, is because probably like many others my mind is made up... Apple will not be getting my $99 a year. Disappointed they blew it so bad, but time to move on.

Good for you. Really. I'm one of the suckers that's still hoping this will turn around quickly. Otherwise I'll be gone as well.

i have faith that it will be fixed. it's just a matter of "how soon".

it probably will require AB, iCal, Mail updates? and i'm just praying we get them before snow leopard is due, that's way too long to wait!

i'm an old .mac member who got transferred across, i have 59 days left on my subscription. thats about how long i'm giving them to get this right!

 

[Kris400]

I think that is exactly the point infowarfare (though more controversial) a couple of others and I were trying to make > That is, if people were able to use reason to comprehend what was actually written instead of using their belief system to infer what they wished were true, then there wouldn't be this controversy.

And Apple assumed (wrongly) that people didn't need to be babied this much, but apparently they do and they need every little detail spelled out for them exactly (though people will STILL misinterpret it as they do the Bible, which is the point I think infowarfare was trying to make).

And Apple making that wording change to clarify caused all of you to instead say "see, we were right! Apple is sneaky!" instead of realizing, no, it is the same exact thing as they have been saying all along, just spelled out for the more simple folk.

Come on guys, get over yourselves. There are much more important things in the world to get upset about other than "does my Mac Sync or Push."

Nope. Apple (a massive corporation) would not actually take the time to revisit and amend their adverts to "spell it out for simple folk" who were just too stupid to 'get it'. They amended them because they realised they were being seriously misinterpreted.

When lots and lots of people (just look around the forums (and hence the postings on the front pages of these such sites)) are misinterpreting the ads, it's bad advertising and bad marketing. That's all we're saying.

If it was just me who got the wrong idea, and you were telling me I was having a dumb moment I would probably just shrug and accept what you're saying, but it isn't. There may be lots of people like yourself who understood the ads as they were intended (or just don't mind the differing result) but many others drew different conclusions and are now unhappy and feel cheated. Sometimes the fact you feel cheated is more infuriating than the actual problem...

 

[b3studios]

Set sync to 1 min interval

here is a work around to set your automatic sync to 1 min (or 5 min or whatever you want) intervals.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080713174705717

It's not push, but it's better than sync every 15 minutes.

 

[BillyBobBongo]

here is a work around to set your automatic sync to 1 min (or 5 min or whatever you want) intervals.

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20080713174705717

It's not push, but it's better than sync every 15 minutes.

Oooh....that's gonna put a strain on the servers!

 

[vandozza]

Oooh....that's gonna put a strain on the servers!

maybe it will give them the motivation to implement true push!

 

[b3studios]

Oooh....that's gonna put a strain on the servers!

Hey, I'm not advocating it, but it's what many people have been requesting.
I just saw it and thought I'd link to it.

But really, the small amount of people that are actually going to do this hack shouldn't affect the servers all THAT much.
Of course, the servers are just now starting to act right for me, so maybe i'm shooting myself in the foot by linking to the post

 

[marco114]

Apple is now doing damage control...OMG

Now apple is deleting posts on their forums because they are just too offensive:

Apple removed your post on Apple Discussions, titled "MobileMe, Steve and Phil mislead us into "Instant"" because it contained the following:

* Speculation or Rumors
* Discussion of Apple Policies, Procedures or Decisions
* Off-topic or non-technical posts
* Non-constructive rants or complaints

We are including a copy of your post at the end of this email for your reference.

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Kind regards,
Apple Discussions staff

++++++++++

A copy of your message for reference:

Well it seems the truth really comes out now, Apple has changed their description of the MobileMe service. I feel like I was intentionally mislead. Who else feels this way?

In fact, if this is the way it's gonna be, I'll take my iPhone back for a refund. This is NOT exchange for the rest of us, it's just SYNC.

Apple needs to issue an apology and correct this issue. This is complete misleading advertising!

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124482&d=1216022123

 

[marco114]

Solution!

Open this file in Property List Editor:

~/Library » Preferences » ByHost » com.apple.DotMacSync.your_MAC_address.plist.

find the "AutoSyncInterval" value, and then set it to the number of minutes you want, I set it to 1 and it works!!!

F.U. APPLE! Hope you don't mind the extra load.

EDIT: I swear nobody had posted that. I guess my brian isn't using push yet either.

 

[SlapMonkey]

Nope. Apple (a massive corporation) would not actually take the time to revisit and amend their adverts to "spell it out for simple folk" who were just too stupid to 'get it'. They amended them because they realised they were being seriously misinterpreted.

When lots and lots of people (just look around the forums (and hence the postings on the front pages of these such sites)) are misinterpreting the ads, it's bad advertising and bad marketing. That's all we're saying.

If it was just me who got the wrong idea, and you were telling me I was having a dumb moment I would probably just shrug and accept what you're saying, but it isn't. There may be lots of people like yourself who understood the ads as they were intended (or just don't mind the differing result) but many others drew different conclusions and are now unhappy and feel cheated. Sometimes the fact you feel cheated is more infuriating than the actual problem...

Well, your post here is quite reasonable and I understand what you are saying and tend to agree with this.

I just think it really is being blown way out of proportion by some when others are happily enjoying what MobileMe has to offer (and understood what it was from the beginning.) And again, if some people did understand it and many others didn't, that doesn't necessarily mean the people that didn't were right in their assumptions... but I do understand how people can be a little disappointed for not getting what it was all about, but to go on this witch hunt the way that they are... just quite silly imho.

 

[Mindflux]

Open this file in Property List Editor:

~/Library » Preferences » ByHost » com.apple.DotMacSync.your_MAC_address.plist.

find the "AutoSyncInterval" value, and then set it to the number of minutes you want, I set it to 1 and it works!!!

F.U. APPLE! Hope you don't mind the extra load.

hi2 reading 3 posts up.

 

[roland.g]

I've had my .Mac email since it was free and called iTools back in 2000 or 2001. When they changed it to a pay for service with homepage, idisk and other items, I chose to pay for it and it has been my primary email for 7+ years now. I enjoyed the service as .Mac, used the new iLife web galleries which were an improvement over the original 'homepage' for photos and movies as well as the expanded disk and email storage to rival google's expanding storage, etc. So now that it is MobileMe, I will continue to pay for and use all those services, incl. the push functionality with my iPhone and me.com and while I understand that it was a difficult weekend and there are things to work out still,

QUIT YER WHINING.

 

[fdot]

After seeing that screenshot comparison, I am absolutely furious.

I've been had. I bought MobileMe for so many reasons, many which had been taken away. Wheres the file sharing? Where's my birthday calendars on my iPhone? Where's my desktop sync? Where's my money?

birthdays work

 

[BillyBobBongo]

maybe it will give them the motivation to implement true push!

lol....aye....let's hope!

 

[richpjr]

I think that is exactly the point infowarfare (though more controversial) a couple of others and I were trying to make > That is, if people were able to use reason to comprehend what was actually written instead of using their belief system to infer what they wished were true, then there wouldn't be this controversy.

And Apple assumed (wrongly) that people didn't need to be babied this much, but apparently they do and they need every little detail spelled out for them exactly (though people will STILL misinterpret it as they do the Bible, which is the point I think infowarfare was trying to make).

And Apple making that wording change to clarify caused all of you to instead say "see, we were right! Apple is sneaky!" instead of realizing, no, it is the same exact thing as they have been saying all along, just spelled out for the more simple folk.

Come on guys, get over yourselves. There are much more important things in the world to get upset about other than "does my Mac Sync or Push."

I think if anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be someone posting something like this on a forum. In the meantime, it's a good thing Apple clarified things a bit for those simple folk with no reasoning ability who need to have everything spelled out for them.

 

[SlapMonkey]

I think that is exactly the point infowarfare (though more controversial) a couple of others and I were trying to make > That is, if people were able to use reason to comprehend what was actually written instead of using their belief system to infer what they wished were true, then there wouldn't be this controversy.

And Apple assumed (wrongly) that people didn't need to be babied this much, but apparently they do and they need every little detail spelled out for them exactly (though people will STILL misinterpret it as they do the Bible, which is the point I think infowarfare was trying to make).

And Apple making that wording change to clarify caused all of you to instead say "see, we were right! Apple is sneaky!" instead of realizing, no, it is the same exact thing as they have been saying all along, just spelled out for the more simple folk.

Come on guys, get over yourselves. There are much more important things in the world to get upset about other than "does my Mac Sync or Push."

I think if anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be someone posting something like this on a forum. In the meantime, it's a good thing Apple clarified things a bit for those simple folk with no reasoning ability who need to have everything spelled out for them.

Sorry if I hit a little too close to home, but, the truth hurts doesn't it.

 

[richpjr]

Sorry if I hit a little too close to home, but, the truth hurts doesn't it.

When I read posts like this, yesterday's Foxtrot really makes a lot more sense.

Keep on clucking monkey.

 

[zedsdead]

I really do not understand how anyone is still defending apple. No one before the launch of mobile me, nor until that support article was found did anyone say or believe that MobileMe wasn't a full push service.

No one ever said "oh, I just read the MobileMe site and it says push works on everything but the mac." Do you know why no one believed or said that, because it didn't say that. It isn't because anyone on this forum can't understand apples wording.

No one, including those defending apple thought mobileme was anything but a full push service just like exchange, as it was advertised to be.

 

[SlapMonkey]

When I read posts like this, yesterday's Foxtrot really makes a lot more sense.

Keep on clucking monkey.

Sorry but you are one of the main ones that have had the sheep mentality of buying into all of this FUD and joining in on the witch hunt without taking the time to actually comprehend what was being said. If you want to now turn this into a back and forth personal war and Wasteland this thread, bring it on!

Otherwise, let's call a truce and I will concede (as I thought I already did) that yes, many are disappointed and now Apple has clarified for those people so we should all be able to move on. Fair enough?

 

[groovmon]

So I get up this morning to see you guys have been griping about this all night. It blows my mind. Does anyone understand that when you hit sync all is solved. I get it, you don't wanna. You don't wanna hit sync. You just don't wanna hit that button. But wow, what a stupid thing to be so worked up about. I mean seriously.

BTW someone said that all they've added is sync to MM and that's just not true. When you hit sync, then your changes locally are pushed to all the other devices. It's actually pretty cool. What's the big deal?

 

[zedsdead]

Sorry but you are one of the main ones that have had the sheep mentality of buying into all of this FUD and joining in on the witch hunt without taking the time to actually comprehend what was being said. If you want to now turn this into a back and forth personal war and Wasteland this thread, bring it on!

Otherwise, let's call a truce and I will concede (as I thought I already did) that yes, many are disappointed and now Apple has clarified for those people so we should all be able to move on. Fair enough?

being disappointed and misled are two very Differnt things. Disappointed is not having copy/paste announced for the iPhone at wwdc. Being misled is "exchange for the rest of us," which it isn't.

And all most of us are asking for is a clarification by apple as to when this feature is coming, if ever.

 

[levitynyc]

People are just crazy and like to complain. This reminds me of the Time Capsule "server grade" hard drive thing.