iOS 14 Release Speculation

[Ansath]

All good. But it still applies, even it it's a subscription, the underlying code needs to be there. So there will be a software update to include. This has been the case in the past subscriptions. Even apple pay needs a certain .x release to enable it to some countries.

Apple News+ was included in iOS 12.2 - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209084

It's in the beta. I am 100% sure as I saw it during the beta test but only available in certain countries.

Apple News was iOS 9, not 8.4.

I made a typo, meant to type 12.2, not 13.2. It was not something we could access in the Beta, so the code was in it, but not visible to us.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/24/whats-new-in-ios-12-2/

Apple Releases Sixth Developer Beta of iOS 12.2 [Update: Public Beta Available]

Apple today seeded the sixth beta of an upcoming iOS 12.2 update to developers for testing purposes, one week after seeding the fifth beta of iOS...

www.macrumors.com

You are probably mixing up that Canada started to get Apple News (standard, not plus) in the betas for 12.2.

Therefore, it could already be in the code and we just don't see it. Either way, subscriptions are not something they need to beta test. I know from my own work, how we deal with subscriptions for services and you're making way more of this than is needed.

No idea why you're bringing Apple Pay into this, as that's not remotely the same as a subscription tier.

The only valid point from you is about Apple Fitness+, which will most likely be in 14.3, and again, it's not clear if they need to beta test this with Developers or not. 14.3 is likely coming in December, probably mid December.

 

[zz_nosa_r]

Apple News was iOS 9, not 8.4.

I made a typo, meant to type 12.2, not 13.2. It was not something we could access in the Beta, so the code was in it, but not visible to us.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/24/whats-new-in-ios-12-2/

Apple Releases Sixth Developer Beta of iOS 12.2 [Update: Public Beta Available]

Apple today seeded the sixth beta of an upcoming iOS 12.2 update to developers for testing purposes, one week after seeding the fifth beta of iOS...

www.macrumors.com

You are probably mixing up that Canada started to get Apple News (standard, not plus) in the betas for 12.2.

Therefore, it could already be in the code and we just don't see it. Either way, subscriptions are not something they need to beta test. I know from my own work, how we deal with subscriptions for services and you're making way more of this than is needed.

No idea why you're bringing Apple Pay into this, as that's not remotely the same as a subscription tier.

The only valid point from you is about Apple Fitness+, which will most likely be in 14.3, and again, it's not clear if they need to beta test this with Developers or not. 14.3 is likely coming in December, probably mid December.

Chill. Isn't this a "Speculation Thread" ? the ones i listed earlier are my speculation for a future iOS release of either this week or next week with iOS 14.2 and the next iOS 14.3. Then you started Saying No and this and its feature is already there, etc and that Apple News is in iOS 9 and not iOS 8.4 which i never mentioned in any of my post and you are talking about a normal Apple News while i talk about the Apple News + (with the PLUS ~ the subscription version) AND we Actually we are getting WAY off topic. So let's just stick with what the thread is all about.

 

[Ansath]

Chill. Isn't this a "Speculation Thread" ? the ones i listed earlier are my speculation for a future iOS release of either this week or next week with iOS 14.2 and the next iOS 14.3. Then you started Saying No and this and its feature is already there, etc and that Apple News is in iOS 9 and not iOS 8.4 which i never mentioned in any of my post and you are talking about a normal Apple News while i talk about the Apple News + (with the PLUS ~ the subscription version) AND we Actually we are getting WAY off topic. So let's just stick with what the thread is all about.

Speculation is fine, but there were things you were speculating on, where you were not aware of some things/how some things work, which was mis-informing your speculation. Plus you've edited your posts since, so probably you made a typo which I was correcting, and as I did my post you probably fixed yours, I would assume.

You realise this is a forum where people can challenge, question, etc, your opinion?

Either way, no chance the final Public release is this week. There will be a week gap between GM and Public final release.

I think we might see ios 14.2 GM as early as tomorrow or any day within the week. We might also see iOS 14.2 Final as early as tomorrow or any day now. Expect the unexpected when it comes to apple.

 

[zz_nosa_r]

Speculation is fine, but there were things you were speculating on, where you were not aware of some things/how some things work, which was mis-informing your speculation. Plus you've edited your posts since, so probably you made a typo which I was correcting, and as I did my post you probably fixed yours, I would assume.

You realise this is a forum where people can challenge, question, etc, your opinion?

Either way, no chance the final Public release is this week. There will be a week gap between GM and Public final release.

Yeah. All good. No worries. But with apple doing this year esp with iOS 14, anything can happen. we might even have ios 14.4 beta instead of 14.3. Exciting times ahead. ???

 

[Ansath]

Yeah. All good. No worries. But with apple doing this year esp with iOS 14, anything can happen. we might even have ios 14.4 beta instead of 14.3. Exciting times ahead. ???

You need to be realistic though. Half of your guesses are just slightly out there, compared to reality ?

 

[Broken Hope]

Speculation is fine, but there were things you were speculating on, where you were not aware of some things/how some things work, which was mis-informing your speculation. Plus you've edited your posts since, so probably you made a typo which I was correcting, and as I did my post you probably fixed yours, I would assume.

You realise this is a forum where people can challenge, question, etc, your opinion?

Either way, no chance the final Public release is this week. There will be a week gap between GM and Public final release.

XCode that released for 14.1 supports the resolutions of the Max and mini, so technically they don’t even need a GM of 14.2.

 

[TimFL1]

AFAIK there were traces of Apple One all throughout iOS 14 betas, so this might aswell be in the current stable release in some form.

 

[Ansath]

AFAIK there were traces of Apple One all throughout iOS 14 betas, so this might aswell be in the current stable release in some form.

I thought that too, but I couldn't easily find what thread it was discussed in.

All these big things coming, will have the groundwork built in already, which some people seem not to realise.

 

[Ladin007]

So, nothing today, maybe tomorrow

 

[john991]

So, nothing today, maybe tomorrow

my guess is Wednesday.

 

[Ansath]

I'm sticking with nothing this week, as we will get GM next week, with public release the week after. ??

 

[mattburley7]

I feel like they might release 14.2 today and then 14.3 beta 1 next week with 14.3 public release in December.

 

[fantomcheung]

I feel like they might release 14.2 today and then 14.3 beta 1 next week with 14.3 public release in December.

Just one week after 14.1? Highly unlikely

 

[gank41]

Just one week after 14.1? Highly unlikely

Yeah, we’d see a 14.1.1 if anything, assuming the Mini and Pro Max also have 14.1 on them. We won’t see 14.2 until after they’re out.

 

[Ansath]

Yeah, we’d see a 14.1.1 if anything, assuming the Mini and Pro Max also have 14.1 on them. We won’t see 14.2 until after they’re out.

I'm still thinking the Pro Max & Mini will come with 14.2, with 14.2 out for other devices that week too (out somewhere between Tuesday 10th & Thursday 12th). I would then think maybe iOS 14.3 beta 1 comes out the week of the 16th November, with Public release being around mid-December.

I don't think we get anything today. I don't think there's anything they need to deal with for a 14.1.1 when they have 14.2 coming soon.

We will see, though.

 

[gank41]

I'm still thinking the Pro Max & Mini will come with 14.2, with 14.2 out for other devices that week too (out somewhere between Tuesday 10th & Thursday 12th). I would then think maybe iOS 14.3 beta 1 comes out the week of the 16th November, with Public release being around mid-December.

I don't think we get anything today. I don't think there's anything they need to deal with for a 14.1.1 when they have 14.2 coming soon.

We will see, though.

All of the iPhone 12 model phones have the same A14 chip, along with most of the other internals. There'd be no reason to have a pre-baked in version of iOS 14 that's newer than the phones they just introduced. Expect 14.2 sometime in November, probably the week before US Thanksgiving. iOS 14.3 beta 1 is where we'll probably hear more from the tech blogosphere about new things like AirTags and the like.. Probably in December. And then expect a rocky beta cycle for a bit while it's possible there might be a not-so-stable beta over the holidays when they won't be releasing another beta for an extra week or two..

::EDIT::
I really think iPadOS needs some work. I'm STILL having the messages/keyboard issue, with the on-screen keyboard popping up over and over. A few other bearable things.

 

[Bobout]

Just a gut feeling, my guess is 14.2 beta 5 today. I feel 14.2 needs a couple of more betas before final release

 

[Ansath]

All of the iPhone 12 model phones have the same A14 chip, along with most of the other internals. There'd be no reason to have a pre-baked in version of iOS 14 that's newer than the phones they just introduced. Expect 14.2 sometime in November, probably the week before US Thanksgiving. iOS 14.3 beta 1 is where we'll probably hear more from the tech blogosphere about new things like AirTags and the like.. Probably in December. And then expect a rocky beta cycle for a bit while it's possible there might be a not-so-stable beta over the holidays when they won't be releasing another beta for an extra week or two..

::EDIT::
I really think iPadOS needs some work. I'm STILL having the messages/keyboard issue, with the on-screen keyboard popping up over and over. A few other bearable things.

I heavily disagree. The current beta build of 14.2 is fairly stable, stable enough for it to be the GM, plus it's an 'a' build.
It's just logical that they would do it with new devices. Why not have the Pro Max & Mini shipped on 14.2 if it's coming out the same week, they have the time to load it on those devices. There is always a mix of iOS versions when buying a new device, depending on stock availability when a device is released.

When I bought my iPad Pro 11" in 2018, my housemate bought the 12.9" version and mine was the previous release to what was current, but his was the current release.

Plus, since they want iOS 14.3 out before end of year (so DEFINITELY in December, for the features they promised will come late 2020 and are not in 14.2), I'd expect them to want to get 14.3 in developer beta sooner than when you're expecting 14.2 to come out.

With AirTags, rumours say they're ready to ship, but just no clear idea of when they're due. The Mac Silicon event is meant to be the 17th apparently, so would expect 14.2 to be out before that.

 

[chillip]

Hoping for 14.2 final today or even 14.1.1.

 

[Ansath]

Hoping for 14.2 final today

Seeing as we haven’t had GM yet, final release is unlikely.

 

[macintoshmac]

I am hoping for a new beta today. Also, hoping more for a macOS beta.

 

[s2mike]

Really hoping for 14.2 Beta 5 today or tomorrow.

14.2 absolutely needs more work.

 

[macintoshmac]

Really hoping for 14.2 Beta 5 today or tomorrow.

14.2 absolutely needs more work.

I have fortunately not found obvious issues with beta 4 in my usage on the 8, but macOS is another story altogether. That is what I would say absolutely needs more work. macOS Big Sur feels sluggish on MBA 2017 since the last 2 betas. Prior to the last two betas, it was working surprisingly fast on this hardware and felt very optimised, lean and nimble. No more. Now it feels a little lethargic. Also, since two betas, there is a bug in Photos app where I cannot drag and drop photos out of the app onto the Desktop or into any folder. Have submitted a report with Apple. Hoping they work it out for this computer.

 

[uandme72]

Nothing today. So far, but that is also 4 minutes past the launch time.

 

[zorinlynx]

but macOS is another story altogether. That is what I would say absolutely needs more work.

I was forced to upgrade to Catalina because I "Upgraded my notes" on iOS 13 and it broke my ability to access and edit my notes on my Macs. It was a horribly implemented upgrade; why the hell did it need to break backwards compatibility with previous operating systems? Why was there no way to reverse the upgrade?

Luckily there seems to be no similar potential issues that would force an upgrade to Big Sur, so I'm going to stay on Catalina for a while until Big Sur matures. They've changed a lot and so far Apple OS releases with so many changes have been a disaster. (Remember iOS 7? Ugh.)