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iOS 17 Beta 7 ― Bug Fixes, Changes, and Improvements

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Beta 7 feels spot on from my perspective, on both the 14 Pro Max and M1 iPad Pro. Battery life is really quite good but I’m not an overly heavy user - mostly taking and editing photos.

I use pretty basic apps, maybe that’s why my battery is always quite good. No social media or games. Also, my iPhone 14 Pro Max battery is still at 99% after 11 months.
 
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Ansath said:
You got it enabled on settings? Worth checking that it’s not turned off after updating, as I’ve still got it
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It was still on. It doesn’t do it on a forced restart Have to actually power it OFF. And then power it back ON & it sounds on both of those actions.

But I remember it sounding during iOS updates in the past. My 14PM doesn’t make a sound when updating betas or if I do a restart. Makes sense because the chime is baked into the chip and not the os so you need to leave and re-enter the OS, which a restart doesn’t really do.

i just swore it was doing it on restarts before as well. 🤷🏾‍♂️
 
I’m finding that the Listen Now page on Apple Music on this beta isn’t loading any content. In addition daily playlists such as New Music Mix aren’t loading. Could just be coincidental and there’s a specific issue with AM. Happens on iOS, iPadOS and macOS betas.
 
Y’know, I imagine that if we had a forum for any release version of iOS we’d have a similar list of issues from similar people. It’s fascinating, the sheer variety of problems people run into when running broadly the same software in differing scenarios. Beta testing is just a really big user testing session.

I think a lot of the issues are related to edge cases in usage scenario. Very challenging/impossible for any OS development team to foresee without beta testing. That explains why, in a very plain vanilla usage environment, very few bugs are showing. That’s my current experience thankfully.
 
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ibookemo said:
Y’know, I imagine that if we had a forum for any release version of iOS we’d have a similar list of issues from similar people. It’s fascinating, the sheer variety of problems people run into when running broadly the same software in differing scenarios. Beta testing is just a really big user testing session.

I think a lot of the issues are related to edge cases in usage scenario. Very challenging/impossible for any OS development team to foresee without beta testing. That explains why, in a very plain vanilla usage environment, very few bugs are showing. That’s my current experience thankfully.
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I think this is exactly right.

As you may have noticed, it’s usually the same posters in this forum who have the most significant issues. And it seems to persist from device to device. That leads me to believe that there’s something in their personal software stack or configuration that is causing this.
 
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gwhizkids said:
I think this is exactly right.

As you may have noticed, it’s usually the same posters in this forum who have the most significant issues. And it seems to persist from device to device. That leads me to believe that there’s something in their personal software stack or configuration that is causing this.
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Yea, I was thinking this recently too. I’ve been on here for many years, and see same names on here regularly, and the ones that have the most issues are usually the same each year.

Think you’re bang on. Which seems like maybe the issue relies on their install, which will persist through restoring from backup.

Does make me wonder if they went clean install, would that change things.
 
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Yea, I was thinking this recently too. I’ve been on here for many years, and see same names on here regularly, and the ones that have the most issues are usually the same each year.

Think you’re bang on. Which seems like maybe the issue relies on their install, which will persist through restoring from backup.

Does make me wonder if they went clean install, would that change things.
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And I hope no one takes offense from my statement. There can be a lot of reasons for having complex/bespoke setups on your phone. Work requirements, development requirements, or you just have apps or configurations that simply don't play nice with the iOS setup. I would imagine MDMs are particularly problematic in that regard.
 
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it’s almost 4pm and I’m at 32% with just 2h and 23min SOT… wow this beta is so bad in terms of battery life, never had that on my 13PM. I used to leave work with more than 70% battery left
 
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Beta 7 is running pretty good on my 12 pro max. It's actually funny, I'll be 3 generations behind by the time the 15 pro comes out, and when I had the 4s, it was already very sluggish by the time the iPhone 6 was released. Now, the 12 pro max still runs as brand new.
 
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Beta 7 is running pretty good on my 12 pro max. It's actually funny, I'll be 3 generations behind by the time the 15 pro comes out, and when I had the 4s, it was already very sluggish by the time the iPhone 6 was released. Now, the 12 pro max still runs as brand new.
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The 12PM is a very solid phone. IMHO, upgrading from my 12PM to my 14PM didn't bring as much benefits as most past upgrades, including upgrading from 11PM to 12PM. The 12PM was probably the iPhone I was happiest with.

I'm happy to know that iOS 17 is running well on the 12PM, though not surprised.
 
cigz said:
it’s almost 4pm and I’m at 32% with just 2h and 23min SOT… wow this beta is so bad in terms of battery life, never had that on my 13PM. I used to leave work with more than 70% battery left
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Yeah iPhone 12 Pro here and battery is pants :D but all else great. Hopefully Tuesday will sort it!
 
I got a VM yesterday... used the live VM thing... was pretty decent... but I let the caller finish their VM message, and then listened the live VM matched the recording pretty closely, but the transcription that shows up on the VM section of the phone app does not even remotely match what the live VM showed (or what the actual recording says). Wow, Apple. Just wow.
 
gwhizkids said:
I think this is exactly right.

As you may have noticed, it’s usually the same posters in this forum who have the most significant issues. And it seems to persist from device to device. That leads me to believe that there’s something in their personal software stack or configuration that is causing this.
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How do you filter that out though?

I completely changed my setup on my 13PM with 15 in an attempt to figure this kind of stuff out, only have 55 apps installed, minimally use Apple apps yet still have these crazy come-n-go bugs. One of the big reasons my current main is Android - consistency.

Added a thread with my setup.
 
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gwhizkids said:
I think this is exactly right.

As you may have noticed, it’s usually the same posters in this forum who have the most significant issues. And it seems to persist from device to device. That leads me to believe that there’s something in their personal software stack or configuration that is causing this.
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I had a bug once, before I did betas, which stopped all animations in Safari. I went through a couple of phones and it stumped Apple.

The last and most brutal thing to test was to set up as new. No back up used. But that fixed it. Later on Apple told me I had some corrupt code saved in my back up that I’d carried around.

At that point I’d never deleted a back up and made a fresh one. That back up had been running since the birth of iCloud and then one day started corrupting my iOS.
 
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dk001 said:
Adding @Ansath
How do you filter that out though?

I completely changed my setup on my 13PM with 15 in an attempt to figure this kind of stuff out, only have 55 apps installed, minimally use Apple apps yet still have these crazy come-n-go bugs. One of the big reasons my current main is Android - consistency.
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And you see these bugs on a brand new set up, no back up, device?
 
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Pearsey said:
And you see these bugs on a brand new set up, no back up, device?
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Yes. But not always the same bugs.
Back in iOS 15 I did a complete reset and scratch install. Removed a number of apps. Still the bugs were there. Some went away. New ones surfaced. It helped for a little while then they started showing up again.

It isn't always the same bugs. Had a big issue with badges in 15 and 16. 17 was mostly free of them. Mostly.
The iMessage forwarding issue popped up during 16. It has changed a couple of times but persists.
Contacts issue seems to come and go. Pretty persistent with 17.

See my last post. I added a thread with some device setup info.
 
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Yes. But not always the same bugs.
Back in iOS 15 I did a complete reset and scratch install. Removed a number of apps. Still the bugs were there. Some went away. New ones surfaced. It helped for a little while then they started showing up again.

It isn't always the same bugs. Had a big issue with badges in 15 and 16. 17 was mostly free of them. Mostly.
The iMessage forwarding issue popped up during 16. It has changed a couple of times but persists.
Contacts issue seems to come and go. Pretty persistent with 17.

See my last post. I added a thread with some device setup info.
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When you said "scratch install", did you restore from iCloud/Finder backup after? I've only restore iCloud backup a few times but I've given up on that because I've experienced some issues, examples like notification badge, message notification banner showing number than contact name, missing contacts.

Whenever I get a new device, I restore the device to the latest/beta firmware (always use IPSW) before setting up the device as new without restoring any backup. I signed into iCloud so all the data should be resynced to the new device and reinstall only apps I frequently use or as needed. This does take times but I experienced less issues and it's a good way to declutter all the useless apps I may have installed over time.
 
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Banglazed said:
When you said "scratch install", did you restore from iCloud/Finder backup after? I've only restore iCloud backup a few times but I've given up on that because I've experienced some issues, examples like notification badge, message notification banner showing number than contact name, missing contacts.

Whenever I get a new device, I restore the device to the latest/beta firmware (always use IPSW) before setting up the device as new without restoring any backup. I signed into iCloud so all the data should be resynced to the new device and reinstall only apps I frequently use or as needed. This does take times but I experienced less issues and it's a good way to declutter all the useless apps I may have installed over time.
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Exactly what I did on my 14Pro. Like you said, takes an evening but man it was satisfying at the end. And the phone ran so well.

I also do occasionally delete the iCloud back up in the cloud and do a fresh new back up.
 
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