iPhone 7 or the Note 7?

[Fernandez21]

What? What is different about the 7 exactly? What did I miss? I mentioned the dual camera, better innards such as cpu, 1gb more RAM, I didn't mention the water resistance. I'll throw that LAZY and TIRED comment back to YOU for not fully reading what I said in this thread. Once again these are just rumors, we won't know for sure until September when its official.

As for the reasons I find the Note 7 as a worthy upgrade, sorry but last time I checked I didn't have to run my opinion by you in order to validate it. Those are worthy upgrades FOR ME, if they aren't for you then woohoo congrats. That's the 2nd LAZY and TIRED commentary from you.

As for the spec sheet, I partially agree. Apple is smart about making money. If they could package a turd with a shiny apple logo and make money on it, I have no doubt they would instantly do just that. Some of the stuff I wish for the iPhone is definitely pie in the sky and there is no reason for Apple to push the limit if they are already making money. They are a smart company and recognize this and I have no doubt the iPhone 8 will reinvigorate them, right at the point where consumers start to turn away Apple will recapture them all.

Honestly, with as good as the competition has gotten and the reviews they've been getting, if the rumors of a small upgrade are true this could be the first iPhone that's badly reviewed. This could be Apple Galaxy S5, the device that get so widely criticized (at least by Apple standards) that it kicks them in the butt and start pulling ahead again.

 

[jrswizzle]

What? What is different about the 7 exactly? What did I miss? I mentioned the dual camera, better innards such as cpu, 1gb more RAM, I didn't mention the water resistance. I'll throw that LAZY and TIRED comment back to YOU for not fully reading what I said in this thread. Once again these are just rumors, we won't know for sure until September when its official.

As for the reasons I find the Note 7 as a worthy upgrade, sorry but last time I checked I didn't have to run my opinion by you in order to validate it. Those are worthy upgrades FOR ME, if they aren't for you then woohoo congrats. That's the 2nd LAZY and TIRED commentary from you.

As for the spec sheet, I partially agree. Apple is smart about making money. If they could package a turd with a shiny apple logo and make money on it, I have no doubt they would instantly do just that. Some of the stuff I wish for the iPhone is definitely pie in the sky and there is no reason for Apple to push the limit if they are already making money. They are a smart company and recognize this and I have no doubt the iPhone 8 will reinvigorate them, right at the point where consumers start to turn away Apple will recapture them all.

This is what you said....

"What's the iPhone getting? New antenna lines, the dual camera will be nice, maybe 1gb more ram? I feel bad for Apple users, spending $1000 for so little"

Apologies for missing the camera, I just included it in my response because generally taking photos is a massive deal for many and the improved camera on Samsung devices has been touted here as a way they are moving past Apple.

I never said you had to run your opinions by me. Merely that you position it in a way that those things you mentioned are so important, and you don't even bother to include most of the rumored changes the iP7 would bring. You could have easily phrased it so that "Here are my reasons to upgrade, maybe you prefer these things" and actually listed the real rumors.

Instead you focus on antenna lines and 1GB of RAM - and you did it purposefully to make it sound like a crap upgrade making those of us who want the iP7 worthy of your pity (see above bolded quote). No tired commentary here.

And finally, your assertion that Apple would package a "turd" with an Apple logo if it would make money is absolutely untrue. If that were the case, we wouldn't go to the trouble to design the boxes the way we do. Things that go unseen would't be meticulously scrutinized. Honestly, if that were the case, the Apple logo wouldn't have any value. It's a balance - its not about profits at all cost.

 

[Fernandez21]

Apple has almost 100% of smartphone profits I believe....Samsung eeks out a small profit and everyone else loses money. Remember I'm talking profits, not revenue. I realize a customer doesn't and shouldn't care about profits, but its essential to understand when talking about why a phone doesn't have a 4k display or the other spec questions.

I think if Apple wanted to do it, they'd do it (play the spec game). I chalk up the reasoning to cost and the thinking being its not necessary to maximize profits and performance/experience. Also to the culture Jobs instilled early on. He was never about that war - the spec sheet war. Everything was done based on customer experience and often things he and Apple obsess over are things a lot of people don't really notice or think about. But thats the point.

The whole bezel argument is an ok one - I mean we use words like ginormous and huge to describe millimeters and despite the overall size differences I tend to have a much easier time handling my iPhone 6S Plus than the One Plus 3, Note 5 or S7 Edge (I can't tell you how much I hated that phone). I also agree that Apple needs to do something there - some people don't care about symmetrical design but Apple's design team does and folks like me do. There are rumors from very well respected sources like the WSJ that say Apple's plan is a smartphone with NO bezels. And I'm not talking that phone that came out a while ago....we're talking literally all screen - a glass slab essentially. Instead of building up to it, they're waiting to unveil it to the world next year. Maybe that leads to complaining and disappointment now but we'll see how things unfold.

I do think there's so much Apple is working on that either goes unseen or isn't quite ready for primetime in their eyes. This isn't new - Apple has always waited until a technology was mature and the kinks were worked out before moving to it.

The hardware is nice, but I stay for the software. And I'm looking forward to what the 7 Plus has for me, all while keeping a very interested eye on the 10th Anniversary iPhone coming next year.

Yeah, I've seen those rumors and am really cursive how that would be. Some of the mockups look wierd, but I'm sure Apple would do a much better job.

The 10th anniversary iphone seems to be the one to get, but it's important that competitors keep pushing Apple, we've seen them in use the conservative prototype instead of the ambitious one in the past because others weren't close.

 

[Savor]

Had the same dilemma between these two smartphones. Now, I can't get the Note7 until I visit Cali in October. Will get the Note7 between October 17-22. Circled Oct 20 for it. I'm fickle, so I could change my mind and get a PS4 instead if I find a great deal for it.

The 64gb internal storage on the Note7 is important to me. I plan to download a ton of TV series on Pirate Bay. The first four seasons of Game of Thrones that I have is nearly 30gb. Plan to buy the Gear VR along with it and stream Netflix shows for a week or so.

I will miss out on the free 256gb micro-sd deal, so I will just settle for a cheap 64gb ($20) and use the Note7's internal storage to download the 30gb TV series. Will eventually get the 200gb SanDisk when the price goes below $50 which could happen within another year.

If you plan to do the waiting game, you will miss out on the great deals. Doubt Apple will have anything like that. But if you do wait, then wait until all the video reviews especially from Michael Fisher, Android Authority, Erica Griffin, and such. Everyone goes through a honeymoon phase with any new phone.

Buy it now and you can get some free stuff worth about $400-$500. Wait, you will miss out on the deals but at least reviewers and users can weed out the minor issues and early bugs it might come with. And a decent promo might happen later. Hoping by the time I get mine, Samsung will offer a free TV like they did to the S7.

If I happen to get another smartphone, it is now 99% sure it will be Note7. Not iPhone 7, LG V20, HTC Marlin or Sailfish. That 1% is reserved for the S7 edge just to save cash. But 64gb internal is the deciding factor over 32gb. The screen resolution adjustment, Type-C, S Pen, and Gorilla Glass 5 tilts it heavily to Note7's favor.

S7 edge v Note7 look similar but those features listed above is why the Note7 surpasses the S7 edge.

Note7 v S7 edge

Mr. Mobile review

The Verge review

PocketNow review

^ Loop it a few times each and pretend you OWN it already knowing exactly what you plan doing it once you do have it. Michael Fisher is usually the most charming.

 

[jrswizzle]

Honestly, with as good as the competition has gotten and the reviews they've been getting, if the rumors of a small upgrade are true this could be the first iPhone that's badly reviewed. This could be Apple Galaxy S5, the device that get so widely criticized (at least by Apple standards) that it kicks them in the butt and start pulling ahead again.

Its interesting because it could be that this happens, and the 2017 iPhone is amazing but the two things don't have any causality. Apple's been working on many of the things rumored that I've mentioned for years. The whole bluetooth chip thing is roughly 5 years of work (allegedly).

Perhaps the 7 is maligned - I doubt it will be. It'll stay right near the top in performance, battery life, camera quality etc and give apple users who are on the 6 or earlier more reasons to get a new device.

And then next year, we'll hopefully see all these things Apple has been working on in a huge anniversary release.

 

[nviz22]

My apologies I'm referring to my market then, the US. How many actual Samsung stores are in the us then? And I'm sorry a fake experience store in a bb doesn't count.

How many Apple stores are there vs Samsung stores? Do Samsung stores provide support for every product they make, along with troubleshooting all the software they support too? And why if I buy an international Galaxy s7 will Samsung not support it here in the us?

Having a store doesn't mean anything. Google gives Nexus devices tremendous support with ease of mind device replacements. They don't have a chain of Nexus stores. Amazon has zero stores, yet they offer off the charts support. Could Samsung do better than BB Experience shops? Sure. Do they need to? No.

 

[epicrayban]

Having a store doesn't mean anything. Google gives Nexus devices tremendous support with ease of mind device replacements. They don't have a chain of Nexus stores. Amazon has zero stores, yet they offer off the charts support. Could Samsung do better than BB Experience shops? Sure. Do they need to? No.

Good point. If you truly want to see what good CS is like, Amazon is the king.

 

[jrswizzle]

Having a store doesn't mean anything. Google gives Nexus devices tremendous support with ease of mind device replacements. They don't have a chain of Nexus stores. Amazon has zero stores, yet they offer off the charts support. Could Samsung do better than BB Experience shops? Sure. Do they need to? No.

Honestly, this is kinda true simply from the standpoint that most customers are so stupid/lazy they don't even care to utilize all the things Apple puts at their disposal.

"I have to make an appointment! How dare they!!"

"You can't just fix it right now?" .....no ma'am I'm not a tech....I don't just carry iPhone parts in my pockets....

I love Apple retail stores but honestly, they've gone a but downhill over the last few years in terms of service quality and customers will find any reason to complain regardless unless you just do it for them. And even then, they'll find a way to gripe and moan.
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Good point. If you truly want to see what good CS is like, Amazon is the king.

I mean, AppleCare has won best customer service through JD Power for like 16 years in a row so.....

Amazon is great though. And to your point - that's AppleCare that's won the award....most of which happens over the phone.

 

[spinedoc77]

This is what you said....

"What's the iPhone getting? New antenna lines, the dual camera will be nice, maybe 1gb more ram? I feel bad for Apple users, spending $1000 for so little"

Apologies for missing the camera, I just included it in my response because generally taking photos is a massive deal for many and the improved camera on Samsung devices has been touted here as a way they are moving past Apple.

I never said you had to run your opinions by me. Merely that you position it in a way that those things you mentioned are so important, and you don't even bother to include most of the rumored changes the iP7 would bring. You could have easily phrased it so that "Here are my reasons to upgrade, maybe you prefer these things" and actually listed the real rumors.

Instead you focus on antenna lines and 1GB of RAM - and you did it purposefully to make it sound like a crap upgrade making those of us who want the iP7 worthy of your pity (see above bolded quote). No tired commentary here.

And finally, your assertion that Apple would package a "turd" with an Apple logo if it would make money is absolutely untrue. If that were the case, we wouldn't go to the trouble to design the boxes the way we do. Things that go unseen would't be meticulously scrutinized. Honestly, if that were the case, the Apple logo wouldn't have any value. It's a balance - its not about profits at all cost.

No I did mention most of those, but you just took the one post I had where I was actually being flippant as my entire argument. We can have a serious, mature discussion, but once you call my post lazy and tired, then that's a different story. I do position the things I mentioned as important TO ME, more important than the changes the iPhone 7 is rumored to get, once again TO ME. Newsflash, it's a forum, EVERYONE's post is an opinion, but I'll try and phrase it where it's obvious that it's my opinion. I do think antenna lines and 1gb of RAM is a crap upgrade, once again my opinion.

About the turd, you are absolutely 100% right. If Apple was to sell a turd they would design an incredible box for it.

 

[The Game 161]

Its interesting because it could be that this happens, and the 2017 iPhone is amazing but the two things don't have any causality. Apple's been working on many of the things rumored that I've mentioned for years. The whole bluetooth chip thing is roughly 5 years of work (allegedly).

Perhaps the 7 is maligned - I doubt it will be. It'll stay right near the top in performance, battery life, camera quality etc and give apple users who are on the 6 or earlier more reasons to get a new device.

And then next year, we'll hopefully see all these things Apple has been working on in a huge anniversary release.

maybe it's just me i know alot are putting alot of stock in next years iphone but there is no lock it will match the note 7 nevermind the note 8 or S8. Guess we will see how it pans out but pressure will be in tense for them to deliver. Those angry about the headphone jack this year well chances are it will still be missing next year.

 

[jrswizzle]

No I did mention most of those, but you just took the one post I had where I was actually being flippant as my entire argument. We can have a serious, mature discussion, but once you call my post lazy and tired, then that's a different story. I do position the things I mentioned as important TO ME, more important than the changes the iPhone 7 is rumored to get, once again TO ME. Newsflash, it's a forum, EVERYONE's post is an opinion, but I'll try and phrase it where it's obvious that it's my opinion. I do think antenna lines and 1gb of RAM is a crap upgrade, once again my opinion.

About the turd, you are absolutely 100% right. If Apple was to sell a turd they would design an incredible box for it.

Your entire post.....

"I see Samsung pushing the envelope more than many. The most obvious example of this is the screen to body ratio. Having a larger screen in a smaller phone means a big deal to me. Compared to what, the 6s plus? The 6s plus is a JOKE in terms of screen to body ratio.

I do see other companies pushing the envelope. I applaud LG and Motorola for modular addons, they may flop but I appreciate their introduction of new ideas. But Apple? No they aren't necessarily behind in most things such as camera and horsepower, but in other things they are woefully behind such as wireless charging, screen to body ratio, etc. Just the fact that they bank on you staying in the ecosystem is a hindrance.

But in essence I don't disagree with you. The Note 7 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Note 5, unless you need those new features. For me ip68, memory card, much better spen, always on screen are worthy upgrades and things the iPhone won't have. What's the iPhone getting? New antenna lines, the dual camera will be nice, maybe 1gb more ram? I feel bad for Apple users, spending $1000 for so little."

Only references to anything other than antenna lines and RAM are bolded. Only the second is referring to the 7.

Dude, its not a big thing - you're just positioning the upgrade in a way that makes it look bad while the Note 7 looks great. You use your preference as additional shield for it, but come on. Just be honest. You want to have a serious, mature conversation?

I'm really looking forward to the lightning EarPods, the rumored better bluetooth wireless chip and what that can do to enhance all the wireless devices I connect to, rumored water resistance and the dual camera - which I know virtually nothing about, but depending on how they use it, it seems like there are lots of cool things it could bring to mobile picture taking. Not as big an upgrade as the 6 to 6S IMO, but those with a new color are enough to get me....though I'm an early adopter and love the latest and greatest.

To me, the Note 7 isn't really that much bigger an upgrade from the Note 5 - but the new design, HDR support, better camera and software tweaks are definitely cool. And I can understand the improved water resistance and re-addition of removable storage could be enough for some to switch. Again, I probably would've from a Note 5 and definitely will from a GS7 Edge/OnePlus 3. I just don't see that as objectively a better update.

TL;DR - both phones are gonna be awesome. Have fun with whatever you get.
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maybe it's just me i know alot are putting alot of stock in next years iphone but there is no lock it will match the note 7 nevermind the note 8 or S8. Guess we will see how it pans out but pressure will be in tense for them to deliver. Those angry about the headphone jack this year well chances are it will still be missing next year.

I definitely think there will by a lot of hype and pressure on the 10th anniversary iPhone, but honestly if they've been working on these things, they've been doing so for many years. Lots of work in the making.

The whole headphone thing is gonna be so overblown and by the time the 2017 iPhone comes out it will be forgotten. Not sure why there is reason to be upset about getting rid of an outdated port. Improve the bluetooth capabilities, GIVE the customer great sounding lightning EarPods and offer an adapter for those who have something different they want to continue using.

Sometimes to drive adoption of newer, better things you have to phase out the old. Where's the uproar over needing an entirely different VR now that the Note 7 has USB C? There shouldn't be any because USB C is vastly superior to micro USB and things need to progress. Folks can bite the bullet and switch over/buy an adapter for things that are that important to them.

 

[spinedoc77]

Your entire post.....

"I see Samsung pushing the envelope more than many. The most obvious example of this is the screen to body ratio. Having a larger screen in a smaller phone means a big deal to me. Compared to what, the 6s plus? The 6s plus is a JOKE in terms of screen to body ratio.

I do see other companies pushing the envelope. I applaud LG and Motorola for modular addons, they may flop but I appreciate their introduction of new ideas. But Apple? No they aren't necessarily behind in most things such as camera and horsepower, but in other things they are woefully behind such as wireless charging, screen to body ratio, etc. Just the fact that they bank on you staying in the ecosystem is a hindrance.

But in essence I don't disagree with you. The Note 7 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Note 5, unless you need those new features. For me ip68, memory card, much better spen, always on screen are worthy upgrades and things the iPhone won't have. What's the iPhone getting? New antenna lines, the dual camera will be nice, maybe 1gb more ram? I feel bad for Apple users, spending $1000 for so little."

Only references to anything other than antenna lines and RAM are bolded. Only the second is referring to the 7.

Dude, its not a big thing - you're just positioning the upgrade in a way that makes it look bad while the Note 7 looks great. You use your preference as additional shield for it, but come on. Just be honest. You want to have a serious, mature conversation?

I'm really looking forward to the lightning EarPods, the rumored better bluetooth wireless chip and what that can do to enhance all the wireless devices I connect to, rumored water resistance and the dual camera - which I know virtually nothing about, but depending on how they use it, it seems like there are lots of cool things it could bring to mobile picture taking. Not as big an upgrade as the 6 to 6S IMO, but those with a new color are enough to get me....though I'm an early adopter and love the latest and greatest.

To me, the Note 7 isn't really that much bigger an upgrade from the Note 5 - but the new design, HDR support, better camera and software tweaks are definitely cool. And I can understand the improved water resistance and re-addition of removable storage could be enough for some to switch. Again, I probably would've from a Note 5 and definitely will from a GS7 Edge/OnePlus 3. I just don't see that as objectively a better update.

TL;DR - both phones are gonna be awesome. Have fun with whatever you get.

I have other posts in this thread. Once again, if you think I'm lazy and tired, or want to disagree with me then you should follow everything I've said. But even if you only take the single post, I still stand behind what I said as my opinion. Dual camera, water resistance, Bluetooth, all that stuff is crap next to having a nicer screen to body ratio, but once again that's my opinion for my needs, not yours. But once again what did I miss, even in that one post? Bluetooth? Whoopee. Lightning earpods? Wired earpods are useless to me, and Apple's crap earpod design is even more useless, but once again MY opinion. Water resistance? Yeah that's a good one, hopefully it comes true although I highly doubt ip68, but who knows. So the very few things I didn't mention aren't anywhere near earth shattering to me, in fact they matter very little.

Just for the record I DO think the IP7 upgrade is bad and the Note 7 upgrade is great. I'm not positioning it in any way, I truly believe that. Just wanted to clarify that because you seem a bit confused. Once again forums are 99.9% opinion, it's not like I'm Tim Cook, or an industry analyst telling you why the iPhone will fail. Newsflash I'm just some opinionated dude on a keyboard who works in an unrelated field.

Anyhoo this shouldn't be this big of a deal. An opinion versus opinion debate never ends well. Let's enjoy our Note 7's and see what the iPhone 7 truly brings to the table.

 

[Ludatyk]

The hardware is nice, but I stay for the software. And I'm looking forward to what the 7 Plus has for me, all while keeping a very interested eye on the 10th Anniversary iPhone coming next year.

As much as I would like to stay with iOS which includes smoothness in Safari, iMessage with my family/friends and overall great Apps.

But that Samsung Note 7 is screaming "buy me," and it's really hard to ignore. I'm definitely going to take a detour from the upcoming iPhone to check out the Note 7 and await on Apple to grab my attention coming next month. The Note 7 just has a bunch of software features and gorgeous hardware to make a great experience.

It's bittersweet to be in the space, because on one end... to be able to choose between Android or iOS with Samsung and Apple in the middle of the mix is a win for consumers. But then on the other end... Apple should be leading in this space, they are making minor adjustments while Samsung has the feet on the gas with no means of let up.

Granted, the Anniversary iPhone is shaping up to be a huge splash yet coming next year I can't imagine Samsung sitting idle by hearing all this noise without having something to compete with on the other end.

 

[jrswizzle]

As much as I would like to stay with iOS which includes smoothness in Safari, iMessage with my family/friends and overall great Apps.

But that Samsung Note 7 is screaming "buy me," and it's really hard to ignore. I'm definitely going to take a detour from the upcoming iPhone to check out the Note 7 and await on Apple to grab my attention coming next month. The Note 7 just has a bunch of software features and gorgeous hardware to make a great experience.

It's bittersweet to be in the space, because on one end... to be able to choose between Android or iOS with Samsung and Apple in the middle of the mix is a win for consumers. But then on the other end... Apple should be leading in this space, they are making minor adjustments while Samsung has the feet on the gas with no means of let up.

Granted, the Anniversary iPhone is shaping up to be a huge splash yet coming next year I can't imagine Samsung sitting idle by hearing all this noise without having something to compete with on the other end.

Ya, this is what I've been debating this whole time. Ok for your needs, like Spinedoc up there, maybe that's true. But objectively it isn't The Note 7 isn't a HUGE jump from the Note 5 and it's only moderately different from the S7/S7 Edge.

 

[The Game 161]

Your entire post.....

"I see Samsung pushing the envelope more than many. The most obvious example of this is the screen to body ratio. Having a larger screen in a smaller phone means a big deal to me. Compared to what, the 6s plus? The 6s plus is a JOKE in terms of screen to body ratio.

I do see other companies pushing the envelope. I applaud LG and Motorola for modular addons, they may flop but I appreciate their introduction of new ideas. But Apple? No they aren't necessarily behind in most things such as camera and horsepower, but in other things they are woefully behind such as wireless charging, screen to body ratio, etc. Just the fact that they bank on you staying in the ecosystem is a hindrance.

But in essence I don't disagree with you. The Note 7 isn't that much of an upgrade over the Note 5, unless you need those new features. For me ip68, memory card, much better spen, always on screen are worthy upgrades and things the iPhone won't have. What's the iPhone getting? New antenna lines, the dual camera will be nice, maybe 1gb more ram? I feel bad for Apple users, spending $1000 for so little."

Only references to anything other than antenna lines and RAM are bolded. Only the second is referring to the 7.

Dude, its not a big thing - you're just positioning the upgrade in a way that makes it look bad while the Note 7 looks great. You use your preference as additional shield for it, but come on. Just be honest. You want to have a serious, mature conversation?

I'm really looking forward to the lightning EarPods, the rumored better bluetooth wireless chip and what that can do to enhance all the wireless devices I connect to, rumored water resistance and the dual camera - which I know virtually nothing about, but depending on how they use it, it seems like there are lots of cool things it could bring to mobile picture taking. Not as big an upgrade as the 6 to 6S IMO, but those with a new color are enough to get me....though I'm an early adopter and love the latest and greatest.

To me, the Note 7 isn't really that much bigger an upgrade from the Note 5 - but the new design, HDR support, better camera and software tweaks are definitely cool. And I can understand the improved water resistance and re-addition of removable storage could be enough for some to switch. Again, I probably would've from a Note 5 and definitely will from a GS7 Edge/OnePlus 3. I just don't see that as objectively a better update.

TL;DR - both phones are gonna be awesome. Have fun with whatever you get.
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I definitely think there will by a lot of hype and pressure on the 10th anniversary iPhone, but honestly if they've been working on these things, they've been doing so for many years. Lots of work in the making.

The whole headphone thing is gonna be so overblown and by the time the 2017 iPhone comes out it will be forgotten. Not sure why there is reason to be upset about getting rid of an outdated port. Improve the bluetooth capabilities, GIVE the customer great sounding lightning EarPods and offer an adapter for those who have something different they want to continue using.

Sometimes to drive adoption of newer, better things you have to phase out the old. Where's the uproar over needing an entirely different VR now that the Note 7 has USB C? There shouldn't be any because USB C is vastly superior to micro USB and things need to progress. Folks can bite the bullet and switch over/buy an adapter for things that are that important to them.

honestly headphone jack isn't a big deal for me but many on here have said it is an issue. Wether they think the same by 2017 as a new design will take the attention of it. That said many will still have an issue with it in the short term. I think personally the note 7 to 5 is a very good upgrade. From improved camera, water resistant, SD card which i think many will say is a big deal from the note 5. Along with 64GB instead of 32GB Certainly those with the 32GB model.

I would say the VR adapter isn't anywhere near the issue as people would have with the headphone jack. Not sure it's that comparable.

 

[Ludatyk]

Ya, this is what I've been debating this whole time. Ok for your needs, like Spinedoc up there, maybe that's true. But objectively it isn't The Note 7 isn't a HUGE jump from the Note 5 and it's only moderately different from the S7/S7 Edge.

True, there's no HUGE jump from the Note 5 and not much different from the S7/S7 Edge. But I'm speaking in terms of iPhone 7 vs Note 7 and when the iPhone 6s Plus was announced w/ 3D touch and having 2GB of RAM, the Note 5 at that time didn't really grab my attention.

There were plenty of criticism of Note 5 screwing up with removing the SD card expansion as well as S-Pen backwards mixup. Plenty of reviews/bloggers were recommending not buying the Note 5 for those reasons. And the iPhone 6s Plus was Apple's "s" year so there was expectations of an internal upgrade.

But with rumors suggesting that iPhone 7 having the same design and another internal upgrade gives not only me chances look elsewhere but plenty of iPhone users considering the same. I'm all for Apple removing the headphone jack, but Apple has so much pressure to deliver with potential criticisms for removing the headphone jack and keeping the same design.

While the Samsung has released the Note 7 keeping the headphone jack and even putting a stylus in the hardware while having nearly the same dimensions of the iPhone 6s Plus. I'm honestly hoping... that Apple brings something great to the table next month, but in the meantime I'm gonna take a tour with the Note 7. Who knows... I'll probably be back singing Apple praises with the iPhone 7 Plus lol

 

[epicrayban]

I would say the VR adapter isn't anywhere near the issue as people would have with the headphone jack. Not sure it's that comparable.

It's not.

 

[spinedoc77]

While the Samsung has released the Note 7 keeping the headphone jack and even putting a stylus in the hardware while having nearly the same dimensions of the iPhone 6s Plus.

Friendly correction, the Note 7 is markedly smaller than 6s+, even with all those extras and a larger screen.

 

[Fernandez21]

Friendly correction, the Note 7 is markedly smaller than 6s+, even with all those extras and a larger screen.

It really is amazing Samsung was able to fit a larger battery, spen, waterproofing, larger screen, and keep the headphone jack in a phone that's actually slightly smaller then the 6S Plus.

 

[spinedoc77]

It really is amazing Samsung was able to fit a larger battery, spen, waterproofing, larger screen, and keep the headphone jack in a phone that's actually slightly smaller then the 6S Plus.

IMO it's not slightly smaller, it's significantly smaller. Just putting them side by side, or on top of one another and you can see how much difference there is. The real benefit comes when you try to use either one handed.

 

[co.ag.2005]

IMO it's not slightly smaller, it's significantly smaller. Just putting them side by side, or on top of one another and you can see how much difference there is. The real benefit comes when you try to use either one handed.

Agreed...

 

[Nancy bout]

I'll waiting till the 7 is out
I love the note what it offers except for one big thing- I don't care for android.
Battery drains it gets hot all that so I just skip-
It crossed my mind and I canceled my preorder.
I figure I'll get the real review by going to their pages you'll see the prior pronkems but ultimately it's your decision!
I have a strong feeling iPhone 7 is gonna be neat!

 

[Fernandez21]

I'll waiting till the 7 is out
I love the note what it offers except for one big thing- I don't care for android.
Battery drains it gets hot all that so I just skip-
It crossed my mind and I canceled my preorder.
I figure I'll get the real review by going to their pages you'll see the prior pronkems but ultimately it's your decision!
I have a strong feeling iPhone 7 is gonna be neat!

Hope your right!

 

[Fernandez21]

IMO it's not slightly smaller, it's significantly smaller. Just putting them side by side, or on top of one another and you can see how much difference there is. The real benefit comes when you try to use either one handed.

I'll see when I get mine later this week, but even though the Note 5 was about the same size, I found my 6S Plus to be more comfortable. My hands on at Best Buy looks promising, but it of course had the security mounts so can't really tell much. But it seems the shape is the same as the 6S Plus, so it should feel better with the smaller dimensions.

 

[Savor]

Initial negatives are -

- Not as good battery life as the S7 edge..
- Average external sound
- Price

Still praised as the best smartphone or phablet of 2016 with each review I watch. The Verge has gotten much better with Dan Seifert reviewing since I hated local Apple fanboy David Pierce who is now with Wired.

I can live with any of those flaws especially how I battery optimize my phone and will likely adjust the resolution to 1080p most of the time. But after the honeymoon phase with anything new is over, 2017 might bring alot to the table like modular designs (Project Ara), foldable screens, and 4K displays with another year of improvement for VR.

Makes me forget about the slab glass iPhone 8. Memories are short. Enjoy our Note7 until Mobile World Congress happens. New form factors are coming...

All I do is add web surf + video playback. The SD820 Note7 is about two hours short vs the SD820 S7e. It isn't that bad of a difference. The video playback is still quote stellar although the web surf is sub-10h. Key for me is adjusting it to a lower resolution. 720p/1080p for most cases. 2K/4K for VR.