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Ludatyk

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Coming from a 6s plus, I'm looking forward to the change, I got my first taste of android last year on the note 7 and was really pleased with the experience. I can only hope it gets even better with the note 8 this year.

Had iPhones since the 3GS, consistent experience but considering I use my phone as my computer mostly now, I do wanna step up to something more veristile. Dex is in my near future

I’m passing up on the Note8, I have a chance to get a Note7 discount.... but I have a Apple Watch, iPhone, iPad & iMac.

The way Apple has set up WatchOS, iOS & macOS... makes for a cohesive experience. I even went to go check out the Note8 and I didn’t get that “I got to have that” feeling.

I’m prepared for the iPhone “Edition”... OLED screen, almost Bezel-Less design and inductive charging. It being faster and better camera is inevitable, thus I’m waiting September 15th.
 

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Doesn't matter if he's the CEO of CPW or a person here. Nobody knows the demand truely yet and phone sales are more than just what comes through CPW..i have never took phones out from them and many people don't. They buy direct or from carriers not via CPW.

People are already paying a lot for contracts as it is and if people's contracts are up they will upgrade.

As good of an option the note 8 is and even if it reduced in a few months most will want the new iphone over an android device. I'm talking general public not techies.

Then you may as well stop reading Mac Rumors because no one really knows what devices Apple will launch apart from Apple...
And no, the masses are not paying top money, if they were the CEO CPW would nit be blaming lower profits on higher priced phones..
You are making excuses and try's not to second guess the guy I quoted, even though it's his job to predict and know sales!
You have blinkered eyes and vision if you truly believe the general public are falling over themselves to buy £60 a month for two year contacts plus up front phone charges.. or downing £800 or more on a phone.

I only care about geeking out on gadgets. I don’t care what any manufacturer manages to sell.

The iPhone 8 may or may not sell better than a previous version, but that has no bearing on my deciding to tinker with one.

Though I see two possible reasons it may not: availability and cost of entry.

Apple is now in the habit of announcing products that clearly aren’t ready for mass production or they are completely inept at making goods in quantity. AirPod’s? It’s a joke.

And Apple is officially entering ridiculous pricing status. Tim Cook is out of his mind. Perfectly illustrated by the gold and stainless to a lesser extent, Apple Watches.

And long may you scratch your techie geek itch... :)
 

Technarchy

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If you want the best smartphone you’ll get the Note 8.

It best exemplifies what people expect in a smartphone, is spec’ed beastly, and can basically do anything you could want in a phone well.

If you want iMessage, FaceTime, and iCloud get the iPhone but otherwise iPhone 8 will not represent the best like a Note 8.

There are other tangible reasons related to Apple Products one might opt for an iPhone, but In a direct head to head comparison, the Note 8 crushes.
 

Ludatyk

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If you want the best smartphone you’ll get the Note 8.

It best exemplifies what people expect in a smartphone, is spec’ed beastly, and can basically do anything you could want in a phone well.

If you want iMessage, FaceTime, and iCloud get the iPhone but otherwise iPhone 8 will not represent the best like a Note 8.

There are other tangible reasons related to Apple Products one might opt for an iPhone, but In a direct head to head comparison, the Note 8 crushes.

You should know specs don’t mean much when comparing iOS and Android.

When doing benchmark test it will clearly show latest iOS device outperform latest Android device. There’s no such thing as the best smartphone... it’s what suits the user.

We all have different opinions and taste.
 

Truefan31

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I think a LOT of people are WAAYYY overestimating Jo Public and just how much they are prepared to spend on a mobile phone...
I don't think it will sell well in Apples terms, like the Apple Watch, oh sure it's the best selling wearable ever made, apparently, and yet Apple has refused to report its 'exact' sales figures in any earnings reports, it instead chooses to lump its sales results in with other Apple items.

It will all come down to price, but considering how xpensive the Note 8 contracts are in the UK, I don't hold my breath for the iPhone Edition. And if as I suspect we will get the same tech and design next year as the standard iPhone for less money, it will possibly impact sales too.

So you think the Apple Watch didn't sell well, even though it's the best selling wearable ever made? Does that seem contradictory to you?

Again I don't understand what you're thinking "selling well" means in terms of numbers/data. Do you think it'll sell more than the 7? If it does, are you still considering that "not selling well"?

You mentioned people would just wait and buy and note 8. So are you saying you think the Note 8 will outsell the Iphone 8?

Just trying to understand your metric for "selling well". You say the iphone 8 won't sell but give no parameters on what you think "selling well'' would be.
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Then you may as well stop reading Mac Rumors because no one really knows what devices Apple will launch apart from Apple...
And no, the masses are not paying top money, if they were the CEO CPW would nit be blaming lower profits on higher priced phones..
You are making excuses and try's not to second guess the guy I quoted, even though it's his job to predict and know sales!
You have blinkered eyes and vision if you truly believe the general public are falling over themselves to buy £60 a month for two year contacts plus up front phone charges.. or downing £800 or more on a phone.



And long may you scratch your techie geek itch... :)

Again I don't understand. If the masses weren't paying top money for phones, how is it that the Iphone 7 series were the top selling flagship phones this past year?
 

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So you think the Apple Watch didn't sell well, even though it's the best selling wearable ever made? Does that seem contradictory to you?

Again I don't understand what you're thinking "selling well" means in terms of numbers/data. Do you think it'll sell more than the 7? If it does, are you still considering that "not selling well"?

You mentioned people would just wait and buy and note 8. So are you saying you think the Note 8 will outsell the Iphone 8?

Just trying to understand your metric for "selling well". You say the iphone 8 won't sell but give no parameters on what you think "selling well'' would be.
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Again I don't understand. If the masses weren't paying top money for phones, how is it that the Iphone 7 series were the top selling flagship phones this past year?

Indeed

The iPhone sold 40 million last quarter! To think it won't sell like crazy is very unlikely

People have been buying contracts with big prices for years. Because they want an iPhone. That's not changing
 

Truefan31

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Indeed

The iPhone sold 40 million last quarter! To think it won't sell like crazy is very unlikely

People have been buying contracts with big prices for years. Because they want an iPhone. That's not changing

That's what I don't understand. The iphone 7/7 plus were still the top selling flagship phones so far in 2017, it actually grew a bit from yoy. So how are the masses not buying these premium priced phones yet the iphones still sell well?
 

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So you think the Apple Watch didn't sell well, even though it's the best selling wearable ever made? Does that seem contradictory to you?

Again I don't understand what you're thinking "selling well" means in terms of numbers/data. Do you think it'll sell more than the 7? If it does, are you still considering that "not selling well"?

You mentioned people would just wait and buy and note 8. So are you saying you think the Note 8 will outsell the Iphone 8?

Just trying to understand your metric for "selling well". You say the iphone 8 won't sell but give no parameters on what you think "selling well'' would be.
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1: No, for 'Apple' the Watch did not sell well, if it did it would announce the sales of the watch separate to its other devices, what's Apple hiding? How do you know it's the best selling wearable? Because Apple hasn't announced ANY figures to back that claim up.

2: I already answered you that one

3: Where did I say that? I did not and you have assumed that. The Note 8 is a niche device. You seem to have read something's not into my comments that didn't exist and not what I said at all.

4: I don't think it will match the iPhone 7 sales which didn't match the 6 sales. That's what I 'think'.

Again I don't understand. If the masses weren't paying top money for phones, how is it that the Iphone 7 series were the top selling flagship phones this past year?

In which country? Got non biased confirmed sales facts to back that up then? What do you consider to be a flagship device? Specs? Price? An iPhone just because it's an iPhone? You will have to provide authenticate unbiased sales figures for the iPhone 7 Plus vs the flagship phones from all other manufactures to back that claim up.... if that's how you chose to interpret what a flagship device is, good luck..
 

Truefan31

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1: No, for 'Apple' the Watch did not sell well, if it did it would announce the sales of the watch separate to its other devices, what's Apple hiding? How do you know it's the best selling wearable? Because Apple hasn't announced ANY figures to back that claim up.

2: I already answered you that one

3: Where did I say that? I did not and you have assumed that. The Note 8 is a niche device. You seem to have read something's not into my comments that didn't exist and not what I said at all.

4: I don't think it will match the iPhone 7 sales which didn't match the 6 sales. That's what I 'think'.



In which country? Got non biased confirmed sales facts to back that up then? What do you consider to be a flagship device? Specs? Price? An iPhone just because it's an iPhone? You will have to provide authenticate unbiased sales figures for the iPhone 7 Plus vs the flagship phones from all other manufactures to back that claim up.... if that's how you chose to interpret what a flagship device is, good luck..

It seems you're reading into things far more than me. There's been more than one source stating the Apple Watch is the highest selling wearable. Even you said it in a previous post. I don't really care why Apple doesn't tell you exactly how many. Oh but it's low "for Apple" like you said. So you hold a bias toward what you think Apple should do, even though they have the highest selling wearable right now in a market they're still relatively new in. Ok.

You were vague about what you consider not selling well. So now you've said it won't outsell the 7 series. Gotcha. So am I right that you're saying it has to outsell the 7 series for you to think it sold well?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.macw...lts-iphone-ipad-mac-sales-all-up-3581769/?amp

This is just the 3rd quarter. Over 41 million iPhones. Slightly up from last year. So how is it the masses of people somehow aren't buying expensive phones again?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...ing-smartphone-in-q1--strategy-analytics.html

Again I don't understand how the masses aren't buying expensive phones when seemingly iPhones are still being sold in large numbers.

And you said people wouldn't buy the iPhone 8, they'd just wait a few and buy a note 8 cheap. So are you saying the note 8 will outsell the iPhone 8? I mean if they all bought the note 8 for cheaper like you suggested then it'd outsell the iPhone right?

http://pocketnow.com/2017/08/17/apple-iphone-7-7-plus-samsung-galaxy-s8-q2-2017-sales

So how is it nobody's buying expensive phones again?
 
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In which country? Got non biased confirmed sales facts to back that up then? What do you consider to be a flagship device? Specs? Price? An iPhone just because it's an iPhone? You will have to provide authenticate unbiased sales figures for the iPhone 7 Plus vs the flagship phones from all other manufactures to back that claim up.... if that's how you chose to interpret what a flagship device is, good luck..

Here ya go:

Worlds 10 Highest Selling Smartphones Revealed

And to be very clear, I’m in no way trying to perpetuate the often used argument found on these fora that highest sales equates to ‘best smartphone’. I just think that considering the best selling phones last year were also already the most expensive, expecting that trend to see an about face purely based on one’s opinion seems quite flawed.
 
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Technarchy

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You should know specs don’t mean much when comparing iOS and Android.

When doing benchmark test it will clearly show latest iOS device outperform latest Android device. There’s no such thing as the best smartphone... it’s what suits the user.

We all have different opinions and taste.

You tell yourself whatever you need to to justify your purchases.

Feature for feature, dollar for dollar the Note 8 is the best smart phone money can buy.

I’m not of the mind that blue bubbles somehow overshadows the absolute powerhouse the Note 8 is.

I have an S8+ and 7+ within 3 feet of me and that already is a tough position for Apple. The Note 8 is even better.
 

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It seems you're reading into things far more than me. There's been more than one source stating the Apple Watch is the highest selling wearable. Even you said it in a previous post. I don't really care why Apple doesn't tell you exactly how many. Oh but it's low "for Apple" like you said. So you hold a bias toward what you think Apple should do, even though they have the highest selling wearable right now in a market they're still relatively new in. Ok.

You were vague about what you consider not selling well. So now you've said it won't outsell the 7 series. Gotcha. So am I right that you're saying it has to outsell the 7 series for you to think it sold well?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-q3-2017-financial-results-iphone-ipad-mac-sales-all-up-3581769/?amp

This is just the 3rd quarter. Over 41 million iPhones. Slightly up from last year. So how is it the masses of people somehow aren't buying expensive phones again?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...ing-smartphone-in-q1--strategy-analytics.html

Again I don't understand how the masses aren't buying expensive phones when seemingly iPhones are still being sold in large numbers.

And you said people wouldn't buy the iPhone 8, they'd just wait a few and buy a note 8 cheap. So are you saying the note 8 will outsell the iPhone 8? I mean if they all bought the note 8 for cheaper like you suggested then it'd outsell the iPhone right?

http://pocketnow.com/2017/08/17/apple-iphone-7-7-plus-samsung-galaxy-s8-q2-2017-sales

So how is it nobody's buying expensive phones again?

Going round in circles here, you are 'implying' I said the Note 8 would outsell the iPhone 8, which I didn't.
That's a conclusion you've come up with on your own.
I invite you toplease go and quote me where exactly I stated iPhone Edition buyers will instead buy the Note 8.. go on....

And as for the Apple Watch, it is claimed to be the best selling wearable with NO sales figures to back that claim up, that is mearly people claiming somthing. I claim I am the King of the world with that logic. Sure it 'might' be, but Apple won't release any proof of that.

As for the links, you've yet to explain what a flagship device is.

You are also now trying to get clever, trying to trap me, asking me to explain what I mean by low sales, then mocking my response as discredited..
I'll end the conversation with you there as I can see where it's leading to...

Here ya go:

Worlds 10 Highest Selling Smartphones Revealed

And to be very clear, I’m in no way trying to perpetuate the often used argument found on these fora that highest sales equates to ‘best smartphone’. I just think that considering the best selling phones last year were also already the most expensive, expecting that trend to see an about face purely based on one’s opinion seems quite flawed.

I tried to check the source of that report but it's subscription only hmmm...
 
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I wouldn't say the iPhone 8 will be the best bang for your buck.

No Apple product will give you the best bang for your buck. That's just reality.

With that being said, for me it's the Note 8 and it's really not close.

I've only bought Apple phones up to this point, starting with the 3g, the 4, the 5, and now the 7+. The thing is, the 7+ is just boring, and it's not because of the hardware, it's because iOS largely looks and feels the same as it always has. Moving around in my iPhone 5 started slowing down, and things like typing wasn't as quick, but all my apps still ran just as well on the 5 as they do on my 7+. Basically, it made me actually ask "why the hell did I just pay $1000 for the 7+"?

What's new about the iPhone 8? Bezel-less screen, OLED, and wireless charging. Things that Samsung have already had, and in the case of OLED, Samsung has had it for a very long time. For the software, iOS will again feel the same with a few new features, but most of the interesting features are only for iPad. Whereas Android is so customizable with how you phone looks and feels it's crazy. Seriously, just check out homescreen setups on youtube to see how you can truly make your phone look different from every other phone, whereas that isn't the case with iOS.

Also, true multitasking is a big deal for me, having youtube on while surfing the internet is awesome, and something you can't do with iOS. Not to mention all of the other features of android, including the additional features that Samsung has added (multi-tasking is much more powerful on Samsung phones). For those who are still under the impression that Samsung phones are a lag fest because of their software, that's not the case anymore so you can drop that narrative. I've seen plenty of S8's and S8+'s run smooth as butter, with maybe a hiccup every once in a blue moon. My iPhone 7+ has a hiccup once every blue moon as well. From all reports, the UI on the Note 8 has been even further optimized to eliminate those hiccups. So again, you can stop spreading the lagfest narrative of 3 years ago.

Then there's the S-Pen. I used to be one of those types who thought it was just a gimmick, and simply replaced your finger with a pen, and only really helpful if you're an artist. That's actually what Apple would like you to think if you go back to when Steve Jobs was knocking it on stage. Then I realized how much I'd use it as an engineer. I'm always brainstorming new concepts and sketching out ideas to quickly see if they have merit, drawing free body diagrams, or even circuit schematics. I'd always find myself looking for a piece of paper and pen when I had an idea pop into my head only to see that there was nothing around. That's all solved with the S-Pen, especially since it's so quick that you can just write with the screen off and not have to go unlock the phone, open an app, and then start typing (like you would with an iPhone).

That's not it though, like I said, the pen doesn't simply replace your finger, it makes a lot of common tasks more efficient. Something simple like copying text, just hold the button on the pen and drag the across the text. With my iPhone, half the time I first try to select something, it doesn't get the right letter, then I have to spread the corners of the selecting tool to my start and end points of what I want selected. Sounds simple, but the Pen takes a tiny pain in the a** and makes it super convenient, add all of those tiny pain in the a**'s over the course of two years and that's a lot of time and headaches saved.

What about other things? As someone who travels and encounters websites in foreign languages, just hover the pen over the sentence you want translated and it does it then and there. Otherwise, you have to go through that tiny pain in the a** of selecting and copying the text, minimize the app, find and open google translate, then paste to finally see the translation. One step instead of 5-6 steps.

That's not even mentioning the easy creation of gifs, writing things on screenshots, etc... Basically, if you learn everything about the S-Pen and use all of the features it provides, it's a game changer. If you don't, at the very least it makes common tasks that everyone does at some point that much more convenient/faster.

Oh, and about cost. Yes, the note 8 unlocked goes for $930. The thing is, Samsung will let me trade my 5 year old iphone 5 in for $200. Now I'm only paying $730, good luck getting that type of deal from Apple. For pre-ordering, I also got a 128GB SD card and a fast wireless charger for free (worth ~$180). Even if you don't have any old phone to trade in, you are getting way more bang for your buck with the Note 8. Then, of course, 2 months down the road Samsung will be offering plenty of deals so you can get it for less, whereas the iPhone 8 will be just as expensive as it always was all the way up to the day the iPhone 9 is announced.

With all of that being said, for me, it's pretty obvious that the Note 8 is the way to go, and it's not even close.
 

Truefan31

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Going round in circles here, you are 'implying' I said the Note 8 would outsell the iPhone 8, which I didn't.
That's a conclusion you've come up with on your own.
I invite you toplease go and quote me where exactly I stated iPhone Edition buyers will instead buy the Note 8.. go on....

And as for the Apple Watch, it is claimed to be the best selling wearable with NO sales figures to back that claim up, that is mearly people claiming somthing. I claim I am the King of the world with that logic. Sure it 'might' be, but Apple won't release any proof of that.

As for the links, you've yet to explain what a flagship device is.

You are also now trying to get clever, trying to trap me, asking me to explain what I mean by low sales, then mocking my response as discredited..
I'll end the conversation with you there as I can see where it's leading to...



I tried to check the source of that report but it's subscription only hmmm...

It's not leading anywhere...you said overall the masses of people aren't buying expensive phones. If that were true, then the iphones and galaxy phones of the world would not be selling tens of millions each quarter then. You're claiming something, with no evidence of its support. My links illustrate that people are still buying "expensive" phones. Why define a flagship anyway? The iphone itself is a top selling smartphone period, regardless of its classification. And it's considered "expensive".

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/05/apple-watch-biggest-wearables-provider-q1-2017/

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/05/apple-watch-fitbit-shipments-market-share-q1-2017.html

I don't think they're claiming anyone as king of the world either.
 

spinedoc77

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You tell yourself whatever you need to to justify your purchases.

Feature for feature, dollar for dollar the Note 8 is the best smart phone money can buy.

I’m not of the mind that blue bubbles somehow overshadows the absolute powerhouse the Note 8 is.

I have an S8+ and 7+ within 3 feet of me and that already is a tough position for Apple. The Note 8 is even better.

I don't know about that, the v30 sure seems to check off all the same boxes the Note 8 does (except stylus), but has the added benefit of having a flat screen and a slightly better aspect ratio. Based on early reviews I will bet the v30's camera is better than the note 8's, but that's only a guess. Quad DAC, wide angle 2nd camera, and a fingerprint sensor that a moron didn't place to boot.

But in relation to the iPhone 8, I don't see the Note 8 being that far ahead, just a bit. Sure it has the stylus, and that is big for whoever needs it. But the stylus is extremely niche, the Note 8 is never a huge seller in relation to the S series, and I've yet to see ANY other oem think the stylus makes them money and incorporate it into a flagship phone. Otherwise what other benchmarks or features do you see such a wide divide in? Processor? Camera? Screen? I don't see a huge divide in any of those, and arguably see no divide at all or even the ip8 coming out on top.

As for "the best smart phone money can buy" I definitely beg to differ. Although only rumor, the $749 price of the v30 to me is the smartest money one can spend on an Android phone by far. The Note 8 is overpriced IMO.

But honestly it's ALL subjective anyway. The "best" smartphone is the one you will use and does what you want it to do.
 
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tbayrgs

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Going round in circles here, you are 'implying' I said the Note 8 would outsell the iPhone 8, which I didn't.
That's a conclusion you've come up with on your own.
I invite you toplease go and quote me where exactly I stated iPhone Edition buyers will instead buy the Note 8.. go on....

And as for the Apple Watch, it is claimed to be the best selling wearable with NO sales figures to back that claim up, that is mearly people claiming somthing. I claim I am the King of the world with that logic. Sure it 'might' be, but Apple won't release any proof of that.

As for the links, you've yet to explain what a flagship device is.

You are also now trying to get clever, trying to trap me, asking me to explain what I mean by low sales, then mocking my response as discredited..
I'll end the conversation with you there as I can see where it's leading to...



I tried to check the source of that report but it's subscription only hmmm...

The Wall Street Journal is a subscription only site as well...going to imply their reporting is not valid simply because they charge for their content? :rolleyes:

First, your initial evidence that the iPhone 8 will not sell is from a CEO of a singular retailer that contradicts himself by first claiming that their reduced sales are due in part to the rising cost of handsets but then professes that the device that will turn around their fortune this year is rumored to be the most expensive mainstream smartphone on the planet. Next, you ask for proof that iPhones are the best selling phones and are provided with said proof. Go ahead and grasp at some more straws when sources disprove your argument...

And in case you still are weary about the source of those figures, here’s some more detailed information about the company providing those numbers:

IHS Markit

Not exactly a tiny, flash in the pan company without any history. ;) Their numbers were certainly good enough for CNBC.
 
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I don't know about that, the v30 sure seems to check off all the same boxes the Note 8 does (except stylus), but has the added benefit of having a flat screen and a slightly better aspect ratio. Based on early reviews I will bet the v30's camera is better than the note 8's, but that's only a guess. Quad DAC, wide angle 2nd camera, and a fingerprint sensor that a moron didn't place to boot.

But in relation to the iPhone 8, I don't see the Note 8 being that far ahead, just a bit. Sure it has the stylus, and that is big for whoever needs it. But the stylus is extremely niche, the Note 8 is never a huge seller in relation to the S series, and I've yet to see ANY other oem think the stylus makes them money and incorporate it into a flagship phone. Otherwise what other benchmarks or features do you see such a wide divide in? Processor? Camera? Screen? I don't see a huge divide in any of those, and arguably see no divide at all or even the ip8 coming out on top.

As for "the best smart phone money can buy" I definitely beg to differ. Although only rumor, the $749 price of the v30 to me is the smartest money one can spend on an Android phone by far. The Note 8 is overpriced IMO.

But honestly it's ALL subjective anyway. The "best" smartphone is the one you will use and does what you want it to do.
Might wanna back off of the V30 praise until more reviews on that screen come in. o_O
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Shanghaichica

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I don't know about that, the v30 sure seems to check off all the same boxes the Note 8 does (except stylus), but has the added benefit of having a flat screen and a slightly better aspect ratio. Based on early reviews I will bet the v30's camera is better than the note 8's, but that's only a guess. Quad DAC, wide angle 2nd camera, and a fingerprint sensor that a moron didn't place to boot.

But in relation to the iPhone 8, I don't see the Note 8 being that far ahead, just a bit. Sure it has the stylus, and that is big for whoever needs it. But the stylus is extremely niche, the Note 8 is never a huge seller in relation to the S series, and I've yet to see ANY other oem think the stylus makes them money and incorporate it into a flagship phone. Otherwise what other benchmarks or features do you see such a wide divide in? Processor? Camera? Screen? I don't see a huge divide in any of those, and arguably see no divide at all or even the ip8 coming out on top.

As for "the best smart phone money can buy" I definitely beg to differ. Although only rumor, the $749 price of the v30 to me is the smartest money one can spend on an Android phone by far. The Note 8 is overpriced IMO.

But honestly it's ALL subjective anyway. The "best" smartphone is the one you will use and does what you want it to do.

We don't know a lot about the iPhone 8's specs. However as of right now the note 8 has a better camera and screen this than the iPhone 7 plus and Samsung has owned Apple in these areas for a few years now. There may not be fast charging, the wireless charging is rumoured to be standard charging not fast charging.

The iPhone 8 is rumoured to only have facial recognition.
 

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You tell yourself whatever you need to to justify your purchases.

Feature for feature, dollar for dollar the Note 8 is the best smart phone money can buy.

I’m not of the mind that blue bubbles somehow overshadows the absolute powerhouse the Note 8 is.

I have an S8+ and 7+ within 3 feet of me and that already is a tough position for Apple. The Note 8 is even better.

It all depends on what you like better. Note 8 has amazing hardware but the software is not to my liking. Updates are awful and that stuff matters

On the iPhone you get unlimited notifications but on samsung you need to clear them to get new ones which is odd personally

I think feature wise samsung have had the upper hand on the iPhone for years but this year is likely not going to be the case with the new iPhone. It has all the features we have been wanting for
 
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bxsonic

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Having tried both the S8+ and Note 8 at the Samsung store, I'll probably choose the S8+ over the Note 8. Much more comfortable in the hands with negligible screen size difference. Plus it's also way cheaper due to discounts. The Note 8 most notable feature over the S8+ is the stylus & I don't think it justifies the huge difference in price
 

jamezr

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It all depends on what you like better. Note 8 has amazing hardware but the software is not to my liking. Updates are awful and that stuff matters

On the iPhone you get unlimited notifications but on samsung you need to clear them to get new ones which is odd personally

I think feature wise samsung have had the upper hand on the iPhone for years but this year is likely not going to be the case with the new iPhone. It has all the features we have been wanting for
Features like SD card? Fast wireless charging that is not proprietary? Great battery life? home screen widgets? Move the icons anywhere we want them to be?
The iphone 8 doesn't have most of the features we want based on the leaks of course.
 

The Game 161

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Features like SD card? Fast wireless charging that is not proprietary? Great battery life? home screen widgets? Move the icons anywhere we want them to be?
The iphone 8 doesn't have most of the features we want based on the leaks of course.

SD card isn't a big deal not with storage in the 128/256 and maybe 512 range.

Wireless charging I guess we will see if 3rd party chargers are allowed or not but if I'm paying Apple products I would likely buy the Apple pad anyway.

With lockscreen widgets I'm not sure on screen widgets is badly needed anymore. The ones on there are enough. Would home screen widgets be good? Of course but it's not a deal breaker. Sadly when I had them it kind of slowed down the phone. Granted I would have more than most would

OLED
Wireless charging
No bezel
Thinner model
Tap to wake

All rumoured features which I was hoping to have to compete with the Samsung phones and that's what we will get

If I was to get a 2nd phone it would be the note 8 without question as it's the most compete phone BUT the software is just bad compared to IOS for me and that's why I couldn't have it as my main driver
 

BlueGoldAce

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It all depends on what you like better. Note 8 has amazing hardware but the software is not to my liking. Updates are awful and that stuff matters

On the iPhone you get unlimited notifications but on samsung you need to clear them to get new ones which is odd personally

I think feature wise samsung have had the upper hand on the iPhone for years but this year is likely not going to be the case with the new iPhone. It has all the features we have been wanting for

Clear them out? The notifications stayed nestled in their under their own app, but you can expand and scroll in the notification panel. For example, ESPN sends me 1000 notifications a day, and being able to do this is nice.

On my iPad, the lockscreen is just a jumbled mess.
 
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