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taphil

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It's HORRIBLE!

Before, just tap on screen and see a list of notifications. Now, tap on screen, maybe there's notifications, maybe not, maybe they expired after an hour, who knows, so swipe up for a surprise. But wait, there's more....Swipe up from the middle of the screen, not from the bottom, or you'll end up at the home screen instead of notification center.
 
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decypher44

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I am still struggling to see what the motivation was behind this. I just found out I had notifications from earlier this morning, but didn’t know because I thought I swiped up completely. Apparently, I needed to swipe higher! Seriously……. ugh!!!!
 
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Spidder

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I am still struggling to see what the motivation was behind this.
The lock screen looks cleaner without notifications all over the place or in other words: aesthetics.

The problem with that motivation is… what is the lock screen for? To give you a set of basic informations (notifications being most important!) at a glance or to just be there and look pretty? Apple being Apple: nah, who needs to see notifications at a glance on a phone? Thats what an Apple Watch is for! Go buy an Apple Watch you filthy swipe up peseant!
 

AMTYVLE

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I am still struggling to see what the motivation was behind this. I just found out I had notifications from earlier this morning, but didn’t know because I thought I swiped up completely. Apparently, I needed to swipe higher! Seriously……. ugh!!!!
Lmao. I’m also noticing this. I found notifications from last night…..this evening. 🥴
 
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antiprotest

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Who was the genius that thought „You know what? Lets just throw all notifications into the swipe up void! Users will love it!“
I have given up on notifications altogether. I have a large number of "deliver quietly" notifications throughout each day. But that extra requirement to DRAG it out from the bottom (and if already on the home screen, swipe down from the top first and then drag from bottom) made me just not check notifications. It's been over 24 hours since I've seen notification except those that I have set to appear on my lock screen, so I have a few of those. The lock screen widgets are weak too, so what's the point? Well you better have some really really pretty pictures to put on your lock screen.
 

jk73

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At first, yes. But if you want to customize anything at all, you'll need to be able to find that picture and choose it again. If it's not saved anywhere, you're SOL on any customization and keeping the same photo.

Thanks. It was the default lock screen photo years ago. Can those be saved or am I out of luck?
 

TonyC28

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I am still struggling to see what the motivation was behind this. I just found out I had notifications from earlier this morning, but didn’t know because I thought I swiped up completely. Apparently, I needed to swipe higher! Seriously……. ugh!!!!
We’ve gotten to a point where iOS pretty much is what it is. But Apple is locked in this annual X.0 upgrade cycle so they are forced to come up with stuff every year.
 
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jntdroid

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Thanks. It was the default lock screen photo years ago. Can those be saved or am I out of luck?

If it's your lock screen image from years ago, and the only way it's been maintained from phone to phone is through restoring backups, then I'm sure that image is buried in there somewhere, but you'd probably have to be a developer to know how to get to it. If you're not, I'm afraid you're out of luck (again, unless you just don't want to mess with any customization features).
 
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tomekwsrod

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Oh, this is bad. Is there any way to switch back to the way old notifications were displayed?
 

johnalan

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I am still struggling to see what the motivation was behind this. I just found out I had notifications from earlier this morning, but didn’t know because I thought I swiped up completely. Apparently, I needed to swipe higher! Seriously……. ugh!!!!


This is my biggest problem, and I'm not usually a complainer, I've been using iOS since 1.0 and macOS since Tiger.

I have the "count" option, and I like that it's decluttering my lock screen, though now this is the user flow:


* Open lock screen
* Swipe up, count turns into Stack
* Swipe up again, Stack turns into List
* Swipe up again, List now shows "older" notifications too.

3 Swipes? What am I missing, am I using it wrong?
 

johnalan

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This is my biggest problem, and I'm not usually a complainer, I've been using iOS since 1.0 and macOS since Tiger.

I have the "count" option, and I like that it's decluttering my lock screen, though now this is the user flow:


* Open lock screen
* Swipe up, count turns into Stack
* Swipe up again, Stack turns into List
* Swipe up again, List now shows "older" notifications too.

3 Swipes? What am I missing, am I using it wrong?


Is the idea supposed to be:

Count -> one swipe for a preview Stack, another for the List, and then another to not distract you with older notifications? I really don't get it.

Even worse, when swiping down you gotta go through the same flow:

* Older List + New List --> Stack --> Count.
 
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SoYoung

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Maybe some people have too much apps notifications turned on because aside from the new look, I received all my notifications so far as usual. It makes the lock screen more clean. In fact, I still don't know witch notification setting I like the most between the default and only the count one.
 

Feyl

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iOS 16 changes something that worked just for the sake of change once again. They could make the OS better in general and put some fresh look on it, but they said no. Let’s just break things is the motto at Apple.
 

johnalan

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Maybe some people have too much apps notifications turned on because aside from the new look, I received all my notifications so far as usual. It makes the lock screen more clean. In fact, I still don't know witch notification setting I like the most between the default and only the count one.
It's the fact that after you view (but don't action notifications) the count disappears and it looks like there is nothing.

They simply need to add a "dot" to show unactioned notifications. This is basic stuff.
 

SoYoung

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Is the idea supposed to be:

Count -> one swipe for a preview Stack, another for the List, and then another to not distract you with older notifications? I really don't get it.

Even worse, when swiping down you gotta go through the same flow:

* Older List + New List --> Stack --> Count.
For the count setting, you can just tap the "number of notifications" down below the screen and it will show the list view directly.
 

johnalan

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For the count setting, you can just tap the "number of notifications" down below the screen and it will show the list view directly.
Thank you, indeed I did notice this, but why make the user transition through the Count -> Stack -> List for swipes?

Is it that "Stack" is really a kinda preview, and tapping just brings you to actioning them?

I'm trying to understand the UX paradigm. I feel confused, and I run a software architecture team. I can only imagine how non-power users feel.

This is a device we all spend 6+ hours using a day, core stuff needs to be clean imo.
 

SoYoung

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Thank you, indeed I did notice this, but why make the user transition through the Count -> Stack -> List for swipes?

Is it that "Stack" is really a kinda preview, and tapping just brings you to actioning them?

I'm trying to understand the UX paradigm. I feel confused, and I run a software architecture team. I can only imagine how non-power users feel.

This is a device we all spend 6+ hours using a day, core stuff needs to be clean imo.
I agree that they put too much time into the lock screen customization stuff that will majotary please the "jailbreak" community nerd that loves spending hours to just change the look of their phone and because of that, even changing only the lock screen or home screen is now more "complicated".

But I got the idea for notifications. They want to make the lock screen more clean and less full of not very important notifications. I think if you really want the notifications like before, the "list" option is essentially that. The "count" option is nice but its way too easy to just forget about any notifications and miss them. The Stack option is the most balanced between a cleaner losckcreen and see all your stuff.
 
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