My iPhone 6 Plus is jealous of Note 4 plasma screen

[vgamedude]

From the DisplayMate 6+ review:

"Current LCD Strengths: higher Peak Brightness with high Average Picture Levels, no Peak Brightness variation with Average Picture Level, wide Color Gamuts with Quantum Dots, smaller Color Shifts with Viewing Angle, higher power efficiency with high Average Picture Levels, and much higher worldwide market share.

Current OLED Strengths: higher Peak Brightness with lower Average Picture Levels, easier to increase screen resolution and ppi, perfect Blacks and infinite Contrast Ratios, wide Color Gamuts, smaller Brightness shifts with Viewing Angle, better Screen Uniformity, faster Response Times and no display motion blur, higher power efficiency with lower Average Picture Levels."

Yes that's the general truth when comparing MOST LCD and OLED displays but not when you compare the specific one in the Note 4 with the one in the iPhone 6. That's not fair to compare a general overview of screen technology when were talking about 2 specific displays.

Also some of those strengths listed have nothing to do with image quality, like market share and power consumption.

 

[jrswizzle]

Yes that's the general truth when comparing MOST LCD and OLED displays but not when you compare the specific one in the Note 4 with the one in the iPhone 6. That's not fair to compare a general overview of screen technology when were talking about 2 specific displays.

Also some of those strengths listed have nothing to do with image quality, like market share and power consumption.

I wasn't talking specifically about image quality. I just meant in general LCDs and OLEDs are different technologies and have pros and cons.

Power consumption can be a big deal to users - more efficient, less battery capacity, more battery life, thinner devices.....

And I took that straight from the 6+ review which in the paragraph before was talking about specifically the Note 4 and 6+.

I'm not trying to make any definitive statements here. In fact, I'm saying there isn't a definitive statement to be made for everyone.

Like I said before, objectively (by measureable standards), the Note 4's OLED wins. But some people don't prefer it. It's not up to me to tell you why, nor is it any of your business. People have preferences - sometimes they make sense, other times they don't. But that doesn't mean they aren't valid.

In the end, my MAIN point is that flagship devices all have incredible specs these days. When choosing a smartphone it makes far more sense to start with the OS than with the hardware. The biggest differentiation is in the software.

 

[vgamedude]

I wasn't talking specifically about image quality. I just meant in general LCDs and OLEDs are different technologies and have pros and cons.

Power consumption can be a big deal to users - more efficient, less battery capacity, more battery life, thinner devices.....

And I took that straight from the 6+ review which in the paragraph before was talking about specifically the Note 4 and 6+.

I'm not trying to make any definitive statements here. In fact, I'm saying there isn't a definitive statement to be made for everyone.

Like I said before, objectively (by measureable standards), the Note 4's OLED wins. But some people don't prefer it. It's not up to me to tell you why, nor is it any of your business. People have preferences - sometimes they make sense, other times they don't. But that doesn't mean they aren't valid.

In the end, my MAIN point is that flagship devices all have incredible specs these days. When choosing a smartphone it makes far more sense to start with the OS than with the hardware. The biggest differentiation is in the software.

Measurable standards are all that matter as that tells you exactly what your eye will see with the display. But whatever there's no way for me to argue if you think there is a different way to measure quality besides objective means, the objective numbers are simply telling you what your eyes are seeing, and what your eyes are seeing on the note 4 is better than what they are seeing on the iPhone.

I'm in no way arguing with your last point either, touchwiz is keeping me from purchasing the Note 4 for instance.

 

[jrswizzle]

Measurable standards are all that matter as that tells you exactly what your eye will see with the display. But whatever there's no way for me to argue if you think there is a different way to measure quality besides objective means, the objective numbers are simply telling you what your eyes are seeing, and what your eyes are seeing on the note 4 is better than what they are seeing on the iPhone.

I'm in no way arguing with your last point either, touchwiz is keeping me from purchasing the Note 4 for instance.

Someone told me OLED displays make them physically sick....I mean nauseated. I could call that person a liar, but why would someone make such a claim and who am I to say it isn't true?

Not everyone is the same. Not everyone's eyes are the same. So you can measure these displays against a standard, but not everyone's eyes will see those standards or displays the same.

I think its pretty clear and evident that people see the same displays differently. Whether you attribute that to differences in eyesight or people making stuff up is up to you.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Anandtech is biased since he now works for Apple.

It has always been a bit biased. I remember there was a week where he wrote a few back to back OS X laptop "articles" which were basic advertising plugs.

 

[mib1800]

Someone told me OLED displays make them physically sick....I mean nauseated. I could call that person a liar, but why would someone make such a claim and who am I to say it isn't true?

Not everyone is the same. Not everyone's eyes are the same. So you can measure these displays against a standard, but not everyone's eyes will see those standards or displays the same.

I think its pretty clear and evident that people see the same displays differently. Whether you attribute that to differences in eyesight or people making stuff up is up to you.

There are 7 billion human on earth. So out of that there bound to be some who doesn't like oled. What's your point?

You know what. I feel the 6+ really cannot make it because it only has half the number of cpu cores and run at less than half the clock speed of my Note4. How can the 6+ be so outdated and slow?!! ....since you dismissed benchmark as useless then try not to use one to counter this.... note also I won't believe your opinions or observations.

 

[jrswizzle]

There are 7 billion human on earth. So out of that there bound to be some who doesn't like oled. What's your point?

You know what. I feel the 6+ really cannot make it because it only has half the number of cpu cores and run at less than half the clock speed of my Note4. How can the 6+ be so outdated and slow?!! ....since you dismissed benchmark as useless then try not to use one to counter this.... note also I won't believe your opinions or observations.

Lol.....

I don't even know what to say to this. Yes, there are lots of people on earth so, yes that was my point - people are different and don't physically see things the exact same.

I never dismissed benchmarks as "useless". Notice earlier I actually countered the poster who was trying to attack the Note 4. It is objectively the best smartphone display out there. But in the same way the Air 2 isn't automatically the best tablet because it scores the highest on Geekbench 3, the Note 4 isn't the best because some benchmarks say so.

There are subjective preferences that come into play here. That's all. If you want to continue being rude, go right ahead. I'm having a civil, rational discussion.

I think both devices are great and at the top of the list as far as best smartphones available.

 

[mib1800]

Lol.....

I don't even know what to say to this. Yes, there are lots of people on earth so, yes that was my point - people are different and don't physically see things the exact same.

I never dismissed benchmarks as "useless". Notice earlier I actually countered the poster who was trying to attack the Note 4. It is objectively the best smartphone display out there. But in the same way the Air 2 isn't automatically the best tablet because it scores the highest on Geekbench 3, the Note 4 isn't the best because some benchmarks say so.

There are subjective preferences that come into play here. That's all. If you want to continue being rude, go right ahead. I'm having a civil, rational discussion.

I think both devices are great and at the top of the list as far as best smartphones available.

There are people who believe dual core or half speed really means half the performance. So what you are doing is saying these people opinions have general truth in them and should be catered for.

I personally like the oversaturated color of oled (and so do many) and some like Ips. I know you can't accept it when someone says note4 screen wins over 6+. But you can't break the impasse without using any scientific measurements.

The way you are defending iphone is no different from giving legitimacy to those people mentioned in the first paragraph above. So will you accept when someone says 6+ is a laggard because of its cpu core/speed just like you wanted people to accept 6+ screen is as good or better than note4 in spite of the opposite conclusion given by scientific test ?

 

[jrswizzle]

There are people who believe dual core or half speed really means half the performance. So what you are doing is saying these people opinions have general truth in them and should be catered for.

I personally like the oversaturated color of oled (and so do many) and some like Ips. I know you can't accept it when someone says note4 screen wins over 6+. But you can't break the impasse without using any scientific measurements.

The way you are defending iphone is no different from giving legitimacy to those people mentioned in the first paragraph above. So will you accept when someone says 6+ is a laggard because of its cpu core/speed just like you wanted people to accept 6+ screen is as good or better than note4 in spite of the opposite conclusion given by scientific test ?

*sigh*

No point in responding since you ignore what I write.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

My iPhone 6+ is jealous of note 4 plasma screen

I think the fact you can turn the over saturation feature off on the AMOLED screen equalises the competition here for me. I prefer the iPhones screen and if the Note can be adjusted, I don't see an issue. I wish I had known this when I had an S3! Never mind. Not sure why people here are getting so heated over such an insignificant topic? Are people really only happy when others compliment them on their phone being the best or something? Just be happy in your choice, you don't have to justify it.

 

[ravipiero]

I've seen Note 4 on display yesterday and the screen is gorgeous. I can easily notice that Note 3, which was displayed right next to Note 4, has an inferior screen (both with full brightness).

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think the fact you can turn the over saturation feature off on the AMOLED screen equalises the competition here for me. I prefer the iPhones screen and if the Note can be adjusted, I don't see an issue. I wish I had known this when I had an S3! Never mind. Not sure why people here are getting so heated over such an insignificant topic? Are people really only happy when others compliment them on their phone being the best or something? Just be happy in your choice, you don't have to justify it.

I don't think that feature was available when the S3 first came out.

 

[g0df4th3r]

I admit my 6+ is jealous of my sister's Note 4 screen. I love the iPhone screen but no matter how you look at it the Note 4 screen is just beautiful.

 

[daneoni]

There are people who believe dual core or half speed really means half the performance. So what you are doing is saying these people opinions have general truth in them and should be catered for.

I personally like the oversaturated color of oled (and so do many) and some like Ips. I know you can't accept it when someone says note4 screen wins over 6+. But you can't break the impasse without using any scientific measurements.

The way you are defending iphone is no different from giving legitimacy to those people mentioned in the first paragraph above. So will you accept when someone says 6+ is a laggard because of its cpu core/speed just like you wanted people to accept 6+ screen is as good or better than note4 in spite of the opposite conclusion given by scientific test ?

I don't think you read ANYthing he said.

Yes that's the general truth when comparing MOST LCD and OLED displays but not when you compare the specific one in the Note 4 with the one in the iPhone 6. That's not fair to compare a general overview of screen technology when were talking about 2 specific displays.

Also some of those strengths listed have nothing to do with image quality, like market share and power consumption.

This doesn't even make sense. Its not fair to compare the general truths of a technology when looking at two specific displays?....EVEN though those two displays come from the technologies?

So...lets not compare the OLED screen in the Note 4 with the general truths of OLED (or IPS in 6 with general IPS). Even though the Note 4 uses OLED tech? huh. Yea that makes perfect sense

Anandtech is biased since he now works for Apple.

It has always been a bit biased. I remember there was a week where he wrote a few back to back OS X laptop "articles" which were basic advertising plugs.

Saying positive things about a product doesn't automatically make you biased. I know alternative platform lovers like spewing this logic but sorry its bullcrap. It just means there are positive things to say about the product.

Anand has been around for decades and is one of the go to guys for objective publications. Calling him biased just because he doesn't 'hate more on Apple' makes you sound clueless.

The reason you're all on on this forum is presumably because you bought Apple products and liked what they have to offer. So why is it an automatic bias if others to do the same.

Anandtech is biased...give me a break.

 

[Jibbajabba]

I don't understand the point of this, if you like the Note 4, go return/sell your 6+ and go get one. I'm sure you'd get similarly ripped if you went to an Android forum and told them how nice your 6+ is.

Why are you in the alternative section if you don't want to hear people liking a non-iPhone.

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but you have to use touch wiz along with it.

You don't. This is not ios, you can actually customise that.

 

[mrex]

and the screen burn in all phone owners who own a OLED screen phone will suffer screen burn in 6 months to a year right now, this is guranteed and there is no avoiding this,

your posts are nonsense... what is the reason you keep doing this all the time? like a broken record keeps playing the same song over and over again...

 

[I7guy]

Measurable standards are all that matter as that tells you exactly what your eye will see with the display. But whatever there's no way for me to argue if you think there is a different way to measure quality besides objective means, the objective numbers are simply telling you what your eyes are seeing, and what your eyes are seeing on the note 4 is better than what they are seeing on the iPhone.

I'm in no way arguing with your last point either, touchwiz is keeping me from purchasing the Note 4 for instance.

With certain things, like cars and cell phones I don't buy via measurable standards. I don't care if the car I buy has the fastest 0 to 60 or not. Or if another cell phone has more memory. In the end you vote with your dollars which is the only measurable standard that matters.

 

[mib1800]

With certain things, like cars and cell phones I don't buy via measurable standards. I don't care if the car I buy has the fastest 0 to 60. Or if another cell phone has more memory. In the end you vote with your dollars which is the only measurable standard that matters.

Yeah. we do, think and buy what we want. There is no need for measurable standard. In that case maybe..scratch the maybe. . note4 is definitely better than 6+ in every aspects. Happy now?

 

[g0df4th3r]

With certain things, like cars and cell phones I don't buy via measurable standards. I don't care if the car I buy has the fastest 0 to 60 or not. Or if another cell phone has more memory. In the end you vote with your dollars which is the only measurable standard that matters.

Yeah right, stop kidding yourself.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yeah right, stop kidding yourself.

I agree with him and there is no kidding about it. I buy cars based on economy rather than appearance or spec and I buy mobiles based on user experience rather than how much spec can be crammed in for the money. Do you think I am kidding myself too because of my purchasing criteria?

 

[SolarShane]

I don't understand the point of this, if you like the Note 4, go return/sell your 6+ and go get one. I'm sure you'd get similarly ripped if you went to an Android forum and told them how nice your 6+ is.

This is called the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS devices" forum for a reason. If your fanboy mind doesn't like that, then why are you posting or even browsing this forum?

 

[Brian Y]

The problem is that perceived quality isn't the same as measured quality.

A professional photographer would say that the highly saturated colours of the AMOLED screens are appalling. But they look more vivid, so consumers tend to prefer them. So I would look at the Note 4 screen and go "ugh why are the colours so saturated and why isn't it more accurate" whereas my mother would look at it and go "oh it's nice and bright isn't it".

Same goes with the "blue/yellow tint" screens sometimes have. Yellow tinted screens are often far more accurate colour wise, wheres people tend to prefer the blue-hued ones since they look brighter.

If AMOLED and it's oversaturated colours are really better, why don't Samsung's (or even Apple's for that matter) high end laptops have AMOLED screens? It's not a new technology, and it's perfectly viable to make a 15" AMOLED screen. Because it's not better. It looks nicer on a small device where the majority of people don't care about colour accuracy.

Personally, I would hate to have an oversaturated AMOLED screen. But that's just because I value accurate colours over things "popping".

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This is called the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS devices" forum for a reason. If your fanboy mind doesn't like that, then why are you posting or even browsing this forum?

Or you could quit calling people fanboys and discuss the issue maturely.

 

[mi7chy]

Don't know why illiterates keep bringing up oversaturation when Displatemate rates the color accuracy of the Note 4 excellent and better than the iPhone 6+ and 6.

The reason Samsung hasn't made a larger SAMOLED panel because it's cost prohibitive. They currently have the 10.5" Tab S and hopefully they'll get there soon because I'm sick of LCD backlight bleed, uniformity issues, gray black, bad pixels, yellowing, etc.

 

[skratch77]

I don't think you read ANYthing he said.



This doesn't even make sense. Its not fair to compare the general truths of a technology when looking at two specific displays?....EVEN though those two displays come from the technologies?

So...lets not compare the OLED screen in the Note 4 with the general truths of OLED (or IPS in 6 with general IPS). Even though the Note 4 uses OLED tech? huh. Yea that makes perfect sense





Saying positive things about a product doesn't automatically make you biased. I know alternative platform lovers like spewing this logic but sorry its bullcrap. It just means there are positive things to say about the product.

Anand has been around for decades and is one of the go to guys for objective publications. Calling him biased just because he doesn't 'hate more on Apple' makes you sound clueless.

The reason you're all on on this forum is presumably because you bought Apple products and liked what they have to offer. So why is it an automatic bias if others to do the same.

Anandtech is biased...give me a break.

The owner and founder of anandtech works and is paid by apple!

 

[daneoni]

The owner and founder of anandtech works and is paid by apple!

So...?

Has he written anything since he joined Apple. The Note 4 wasn't even reviewed by Anand nor were the 6/6+.

But lemme guess he secretly calls his writers to tell them to write positive stuff for Apple right?