Everyone is throwing "color gamut" around in this thread as though Apple promised a certain specification on it. The same goes for RAM. People are crying about 1GB RAM as though Apple said it would be higher than that or said something like "highest RAM available in a tablet" in their keynote.
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iPad mini Ok, everyone needs to calm down about this whole color gamut thing
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Everyone is throwing "color gamut" around in this thread as though Apple promised a certain specification on it. The same goes for RAM. People are crying about 1GB RAM as though Apple said it would be higher than that or said something like "highest RAM available in a tablet" in their keynote.
It's more like the Apple haters are out in full force.
Only here can someone make up an expectation based purely on one owns fantasy, not based on ANY history or commitment or indication from the people that design and build the things, and then be disappointed their own made up expectations were unfulfilled and accuse the manufacturer of "gimping", "holding back", "pushing crippled products on unsuspecting customers", and basically being single handedly responsible for destroying the professional photography and design industries.
Please. I love Apple, and I was a little less than thrilled when I saw the rMini's screen for the first time. Stop being defensive on their behalf and just acknowledge that it's a flaw. It doesn't bother everyone, but it's a bit disconcerting to us technocrats who can tell between a good value and a not-so-good value.
I would rather "Appogists" just acknowledge there is are display issues and say they thought it was still worth the money to them instead of denying reality or try to dismiss legitimate criticism as Apple h8ers.... Or try to say Air is oversaturated when the data shows that is not true.
The problem is that they spent 400$+ on a device.
Somebody admitting they're wrong at that point isn't going to happen often.
Let's see, apple red looks orange, low memory crashes all the time, stuttering in games - but nope, apple never advertises such things.
I guess that kool-aid juice you sip looks like orange juice on your mini's display!
Wrong about what? Wrong for purchasing an iPad mini? Isn't it their own choice based on whatever preferences they have? If someone looks at the iPad mini and a customer standing next to them says "that only has a 63% color gamut" - what if they don't give a ****? Does that mean they're wrong? Do they have to "admit" that the screen "sucks" even if they don't think it does?
We must not be reading the same article. While you use the word "gimped" without probably knowing what it means, it is an offensive term and implied malice and forethought on the part of Apple in producing these things, it implies a defect, and error, a problem. You are incorrect. That is all.
No. It proves the Mini has a lower gamut than the Air.
So what?
See? That is the attitude that I take exception with. You are accusing Apple of a behavior with no proof other than your own prejudiced and unfulfilled expectation.
Show me where the Air and the Mini screens were reported to have the exact same specs.
Show me where Apple committed to providing a Mini that would cover the whole gamut.
Show me where you have any proof this was a stated Apple goal to release a "crippled" product. Actually, I'll make it easier. Show me who is "crippled" by this. Do you even KNOW what the word crippled means?
No, I am not an apologist. I just don't drink the hate Kool Aid. It doesn't taste good.
They should admit there's a problem with the screen.
Then again, you're a poster child for the apologist crowd.
Even if you're 100% right about everything you say, Apple is giving people until January 7th to return these things. That's almost two months. What other company allows you to do this?
If people don't like it, or think Apple is skimping on specs, they can take it back for a full refund. The fact that 99% of them won't speaks to how little people care about this nonsense.
What if they don't think there's something wrong with it? 99.9999% of people a) don't know what color gamut is, and b) don't give a **** even if they do. So that means they have to admit there is a problem with the screen? As far as they're concerned, there isn't a problem.
No, its not a flaw, so I can't acknowledge it. What I do acknowledge is that the rMini did not meet the expectations you technocrats made up for yourselves with no basis in fact.
Serious question. How is the display gimped when Apple never made any gamut claims? If they has said 100% gamut and it's not then you have a point. It's an improvement over the 1st mini isn't it? Just because it doesn't live up to your expectations doesn't means it's gimped.
My how we forget. You do not remember those posts you wrote praising the Mini? How bout the best gaming tablet, remember that one? The number of times you went back and forth with it and the 4th gen iPad on which one to keep. Now everyone owning it is an iSheep? Geez
This applies for ZBoater as well:
Both of you are really defensive when someone mentions apple gimping the retina display - gimping is a good term because that's what they did, purely for profits. You think apple accidentally put in a retina display that shows orange instead of red? You think apple doesn't know that people may or may not find out but they said F'it, my loyal apple apologists will come and defend us and there's no way they will think we did this for pure profit margins?
Which company likes to advertise they make a ton of money selling a product that was cheaply made? I'm not saying it's cheap for apple to make a retina display, but for sure it was cheaper than making a real retina display that didn't have it's color gamut gimped. Look at the iPod with retina the first one when the iPhone 4 was introduced, I come back to this again because it's pure and simple, they didn't want people to buy that iPod retina over an iPhone 4. Bad business.
Same thing here, you don't think want to charge you $499 for this iPad mini retina rather than $400? They know they can get away with bumping price up to $400 over the $329 but $500 was not gonna make sense. They CLEARLY KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THE IPAD MINI RETINA'S DISPLAY.
The fact you don't get this is just mind boggling. I know the device is the perfect device in size and weight but the fact is they GIMPED this retina display. Just admit to it and you won't be called out for being an apple apologist. They (apple) don't deserve the credit because they purely cut corners.
The rMini can only hold 115GB of content in its largest storage configuration.
Is there a problem with the rMini storage?
No.
If I need more storage, I need to go buy another tablet. It doesn't meet my needs. Apple's design decision limited the storage capacity to a specific number so they could hit a specific price point, and I either accept it and buy it, or I buy something else.
The rMini screen does not cover the entire RGB color gamut.
Is there a problem with the rMini screen?
No.
If I need a tablet that covers the entire gamut, there are other options. Apples design decision limited the color gamut to a specific number so they could hit a specific price point, and I either accept it and buy it, or I buy something else.
What is the problem with this? Why am I being an apologist for pointing out that NOWHERE was a 100% gamut coverage EVER EVER promised, advertised or even MENTIONED. This is a Macrumors MADE UP problem!
I didnt miss your point. Mine went over your head. Fox News isnt relevant in the tech world. Has nothing to do with political affiliations or beliefs.
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They are wrong if they say there's "nothing wrong with the display". Maybe saying "there's something wrong, but I like it anyway" would be more accurate.
You guys are missing the point: Apple doesn't have to claim that the rMini and the Air share the same gamut - that is, display an accurate, standardized range of color - because the hike in price did for them. I think it might've been intentional to squeeze out some more profit, or it might have been poor planning as DisplayMate believes, but in either case they are taking advantage of their customers who will happily buy the rMini unsuspecting of an inferior display, knowing that those people won't notice/care. Apple is deliberately pushing worse technology than its competitors at way steeper costs to consumers for the simple fact that they can get away with it.
Oh wow, you just can't stand anybody saying anything bad about Apple's devices, can you?
Of course I did - I yearned so badly for retina display too did you not read that either? At the end, it went back and iPad 4 was bought. my points are exactly the same as in my previous posts - can't pay for old generation technology, just can't do it. Now this time around, they do the same gimping - except it' the screen which is so important to me.
PS - all the apologists saying, "apple didn't advertise color gamut, etc" - please. So when apple doesn't advertise GPU specs and the benchmarks show it smokes everything now", you apologists just rave and say apple is great! but when this color gimping issue is real, "oh, apple never advertised this gamut to be 100%" - what double standards you have. Sheesh, what color is the kool-aid you see on your mini's screen? It can't be red, I know that for sure!
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