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mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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Damn it I am trying to get one for my car I don't want to tether I am trying to use it has my vehicles head unit.

On that note, I have T-Mobile with unlimited data. It would only cost me $10 to add a tablet with 5 GB of its own data plus 5 GB of my included hot spot.

That is pretty nasty considering the other carriers rape you to add a tablet with data.
 

RickTaylor

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Nov 9, 2013
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It does that fine. It renders PDFs perfectly well. Read a few today, compared it to the iPad...no big difference. Couldn't tell a real difference between the screen sizes either, compared to my air

PDF expert is just an amazing app....but nothing I cant mange with out if I choose

It's not sufficient for me that the device render individual pages well; it needs to do so in a way that makes them convenient for reading. I like to read documents by scrolling vertically (something that PDF expert just recently added); surprisingly, most tablet readers don't seem to do that.
 

BlueGoldAce

macrumors 68000
Oct 11, 2011
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It's not sufficient for me that the device render individual pages well; it needs to do so in a way that makes them convenient for reading. I like to read documents by scrolling vertically (something that PDF expert just recently added); surprisingly, most tablet readers don't seem to do that.
Adobe does the vertical scroll.

Compared adobe next to PDF expert....its similar and performs well. Its not better, but no app is.
 

RickTaylor

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Nov 9, 2013
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There is a thread on android central stating BB is allowing $100 trade in on a tablet when you purchase the Nexus 9.

Gotta dig through some of my dinosaurs.

Hmmmm. I wonder if they'll accept my old Palm Pilot. . . .or perhaps my Newton. :)
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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Some people are running into flex and creaking issues. Anyone here have that issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBK_jkciqg

And so much for stereo sound. iFixit says they look like low volume earpiece speakers, not as hefty as the speakers in the iPad Air.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+9+Teardown/31425

"We're no audio experts, but these speakers look a lot more like low-volume earpiece speakers than the far-heftier speakers found in the latest iteration of the iPad Air."
 

Jspring86

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Oct 7, 2011
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Some people are running into flex and creaking issues. Anyone here have that issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBK_jkciqg

And so much for stereo sound. iFixit says they look like low volume earpiece speakers, not as hefty as the speakers in the iPad Air.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+9+Teardown/31425

"We're no audio experts, but these speakers look a lot more like low-volume earpiece speakers than the far-heftier speakers found in the latest iteration of the iPad Air."

I, for one, do not have this creaking or flex issue. I'm also not one to push incredibly hard on the back of a tablet or phone to see if something bad happens.

I find the speakers are better than the iPad Air 2 speakers for me, maybe just because they're front-facing, but they are not the same level of quality as my HTC One M8, that much is pretty apparent. I also find the vibrating issue with sound on the Air 2 super annoying, so maybe I'm biased because of that.
 

BlueGoldAce

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Oct 11, 2011
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Some people are running into flex and creaking issues. Anyone here have that issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBK_jkciqg

And so much for stereo sound. iFixit says they look like low volume earpiece speakers, not as hefty as the speakers in the iPad Air.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+9+Teardown/31425

"We're no audio experts, but these speakers look a lot more like low-volume earpiece speakers than the far-heftier speakers found in the latest iteration of the iPad Air."
Reviews are saying the speakers are the best on a tablet.

It will flex... The iPad air 2 will Bend like a twig.

Stop stressing thin, expensive objects.... Jeez.
 

Fanaticalism

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Apr 16, 2013
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Reviews are saying the speakers are the best on a tablet.

It will flex... The iPad air 2 will Bend like a twig.

Stop stressing thin, expensive objects.... Jeez.

He only visits this side of the fence when a new android product is released and he can find negative reviews of it. That being said, it isn't too hard to find negative reviews of the N9 as the general consensus is that the hardware is a big fail.
 

Stooby Mcdoobie

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Jun 26, 2012
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BlueGoldAce

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He only visits this side of the fence when a new android product is released and he can find negative reviews of it. That being said, it isn't too hard to find negative reviews of the N9 as the general consensus is that the hardware is a big fail.
No. Andantech will be a big determiner.

We have several bad reviews for the 9,and several outstanding review.

The update yesterday made a big difference. If reviews didn't consider that their review is outdated.

The tablet may flex... The iPad bends. The tablet may get warm , yet it has great speakers.

Everything has it's plus and minus.
 

Fanaticalism

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No. Andantech will be a big determiner.

We have several bad reviews for the 9,and several outstanding review.

The update yesterday made a big difference. If reviews didn't consider that their review is outdated.

The tablet may flex... The iPad bends. The tablet may get warm , yet it has great speakers.

Everything has it's plus and minus.

I typically look at reviews collectively as opposed to a singular one.
 

BlueGoldAce

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It's not sufficient for me that the device render individual pages well; it needs to do so in a way that makes them convenient for reading. I like to read documents by scrolling vertically (something that PDF expert just recently added); surprisingly, most tablet readers don't seem to do that.
PDF max. Just as good as PDF expert as far as I can tell so far.
 

mib1800

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No. Andantech will be a big determiner.

We have several bad reviews for the 9,and several outstanding review.

The update yesterday made a big difference. If reviews didn't consider that their review is outdated.

The tablet may flex... The iPad bends. The tablet may get warm , yet it has great speakers.

Everything has it's plus and minus.
After someone told me the boss of Anandtech works for Apple, I already am very skeptical about anything put out by that site.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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So long iPad Air, Hello Nexus 9

I still find the lack of tablet optimised apps to be the bigger issue for me with Android tablets rather than iOS ones. It annoys me how many apps are just phone apps and look truly atrocious on an android tablet. Tapatalk is perfect example of how on an android tablet it looks awful especially on a bigger tablet like the Note 12.2 where it's phone style gui looks ridiculously out of place.

I like my Note 12.2 for drawing, but in almost every other regard much prefer iOS for tablets. I truly hated the Nexus 7 2012 & 2013 experience I had.

Likewise only 16/32gb options is mean these days on a tablet, just like apple they should drop the 16 gb variant or at least with the nexus 9 broke the mould and implemented sd-card support especially if this is one of Android L's big improvements.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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I still find the lack of tablet optimised apps to be the bigger issue for me with Android tablets rather than iOS ones. It annoys me how many apps are just phone apps and look truly atrocious on an android tablet. Tapatalk is perfect example of how on an android tablet it looks awful especially on a bigger tablet like the Note 12.2 where it's phone style gui looks ridiculously out of place.

I like my Note 12.2 for drawing, but in almost every other regard much prefer iOS for tablets. I truly hated the Nexus 7 2012 & 2013 experience I had.

Likewise only 16/32gb options is mean these days on a tablet, just like apple they should drop the 16 gb variant or at least with the nexus 9 broke the mould and implemented sd-card support especially if this is one of Android L's big improvements.

Completely agree--still the biggest detriment to the tablet experience on Android. And the perfect example to illustrate this is with one of Google's own apps--Gmail (I will note that I have not seen the newly updated version as it hasn't been rolled out to my G Pad yet so if it's been changed, I stand corrected). Gmail on my G Pad looks exactly like it does on an Android phone--single column list of messages. I turn it to landscape and it's nothing different, just a widened, stretched out list of messages.

Now I switch to the iPad and Gmail is an entirely different experience--on Android tablet's most significant competitor. In portrait orientation I get a left of messages down the left with a partial preview on the right--touch a message and the left column slides away to fully reveal the message. Better yet, when I change to landscape orientation, I get the same left hand column list, a now unobscured view of the entire message and a third small column on the very left edge showing my user account image and shortcuts to my inboxes or labels that I've set up.

Why on Earth is the user experience for one of Google's primary apps far better on their biggest competitor than on their own mobile/tablet OS?

The app experience on Android phones is far closer to what you find on iOS but on tablets, the divide is still bigger than the Grand Canyon.

Update: Well, finally got the update for Gmail and as promised, I retract my criticism of Gmail tablet functionality now that Google has added all of the layout/functions found on the iPad version. Took 'em long enough. ;)

I still feel the Android tablet experience is still very lacking but nice to see at least Google making progress on their own apps.
 
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BlueGoldAce

macrumors 68000
Oct 11, 2011
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I handedly prefer my note 4 to my six plus. Android on a phone is great and app quality is up there with ios.

I tired to like my nexus 9 these last few days. Unfortunately, I am returning it. I am trading in my ipad air, plus a mover coupon, and best buys 50 buck trade in promotion.... I'll go the new air about 187....Cant beat it.
Maybe in a fear or two build quality and app quality will improve enough on Android.
 

TechGod

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2014
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Ok, shouldn't android stuff be at least half the price of iOS devices or even less? The OS is free whereas Apple invest countless millions in its OS and the customer has to pay for it?

Factor in the R&D costs Apple have to re-coop compared to the R&D spend of any Android device maker. So, all of these android devices should be no more than $250 max. If Samsung charge $600 for a phone they are ripping the piss out of you. Think about that when you buy your next Android device.

Oh boy....
 

Bahroo

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Jul 21, 2012
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Reviews are saying the speakers are the best on a tablet.

It will flex... The iPad air 2 will Bend like a twig.

Stop stressing thin, expensive objects.... Jeez.

the black flex's beyond easily on the Nexus 9, even when you hold it in your hand and your fingers are on the back of the tablet, they press in slightly on the tablet and back of the tablet, which is terrible honestly, and a iPad will never bend, the only way it will bend? if someone forcibly is trying to snap my iPad/bend my iPad in half, then that is where I would proceed to snap that persons neck in half lol if they ever tried doing something like that. so yeah its virtually impossible.

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After someone told me the boss of Anandtech works for Apple, I already am very skeptical about anything put out by that site.

The boss of Anandtech is no longer the boss of Anandtech now, he works at Apple and has now let others take rein of the website, he is really no longer involved at all in Anandtech anymore

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As a multi iPad and Android owner, i'll say this. Android looks like a more refined next-gen mobile OS than iOS. Since using iOS watching apps crash and burn (Safari, Mail) I have yet to see Android crash post JB. KK is a rock solid OS and every default Android app has not crashed once.

iOS has mimicked Android and now Android is installing more useful features and looking even better. I still dig the iPad and iOS but it's no longer a lock for me when choosing a tablet. In fact i'm also leaning on an N9 over the Air 2 or Mini 3.

Funny, total opposite for me, My nexus 7 running 4.4.4 (2013 version) in ART mode crashes noticeably more then any iOS device I have ever owned, Google Plus and others crash at least once a day on my tablet, Crash rates of both OS's are actually very close so you just seem to be the very rare oddity.

the fact that iOS crash rates and Android crash rates are close, while Android devices sporting 2-3x more RAM just shows you how efficient iOS is and how Android can improve
 

Fanaticalism

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2013
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the black flex's beyond easily on the Nexus 9, even when you hold it in your hand and your fingers are on the back of the tablet, they press in slightly on the tablet and back of the tablet, which is terrible honestly, and a iPad will never bend, the only way it will bend? if someone forcibly is trying to snap my iPad/bend my iPad in half, then that is where I would proceed to snap that persons neck in half lol if they ever tried doing something like that. so yeah its virtually impossible.

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The boss of Anandtech is no longer the boss of Anandtech now, he works at Apple and has now let others take rein of the website, he is really no longer involved at all in Anandtech anymore

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Funny, total opposite for me, My nexus 7 running 4.4.4 (2013 version) in ART mode crashes noticeably more then any iOS device I have ever owned, Google Plus and others crash at least once a day on my tablet, Crash rates of both OS's are actually very close so you just seem to be the very rare oddity.

the fact that iOS crash rates and Android crash rates are close, while Android devices sporting 2-3x more RAM just shows you how efficient iOS is and how Android can improve

After that fiasco of a thread that lacked all objectivity and went against every single objective review, your credibility went completely out the window. When youre capable of making comments based on fact and not passion for a product/company, people may begin to take you seriously.
 

Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
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After that fiasco of a thread that lacked all objectivity and went against every single objective review, your credibility went completely out the window. When youre capable of making comments based on fact and not passion for a product/company, people may begin to take you seriously.

I could care less if you take me seriously or not, my post is factually correct and still stands and is very valid,

And also it happens on my Nexus 7 2013 running 4.4.4 on ART mode also enabled, and also I have had played with a Nexus 9 and felt it pretty quickly
 

Fanaticalism

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2013
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I could care less if you take me seriously or not, my post is factually correct and still stands and is very valid,

And also it happens on my Nexus 7 2013 running 4.4.4 on ART mode also enabled, and also I have had played with a Nexus 9 and felt it pretty quickly

Which post was factually correct? The one that was debunked by the facts that were obtained using scientific instruments? Or the one used with your heavily biased eyes?

Felt it pretty quickly? Great!
 

Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
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Which post was factually correct? The one that was debunked by the facts that were obtained using scientific instruments? Or the one used with your heavily biased eyes?

Felt it pretty quickly? Great!

My last post in this thread, the one you had quoted, and actually I used information from DisplayMate aswell; and the Plus and 6 has the lowest screen reflectancy of any smartphone ever , biased? lol...im bias because I say that having to micro manage screen modes on the Note 4 is terribly annoying and no one really ever does that on their Galaxy devices, they usually keep it at the stock display mode setting(which doesnt make it the best display in the world when its not in "basic mode" on the Note 4)

And then why would you want to buy a phone for its OLED display, only to nullify it and go for absolute color accuracy and accurate colors lol? You fail to realize this, yet you call me bias, take the fanboy goggles off now will you?
 

Fanaticalism

macrumors 6502a
Apr 16, 2013
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My last post in this thread, the one you had quoted, and actually I used information from DisplayMate aswell; and the Plus and 6 has the lowest screen reflectancy of any smartphone ever , biased? lol...im bias because I say that having to micro manage screen modes on the Note 4 is terribly annoying and no one really ever does that on their Galaxy devices, they usually keep it at the stock display mode setting(which doesnt make it the best display in the world when its not in "basic mode" on the Note 4)

And then why would you want to buy a phone for its OLED display, only to nullify it and go for absolute color accuracy and accurate colors lol? You fail to realize this, yet you call me bias, take the fanboy goggles off now will you?

Your comments regarding reflectivity were also inaccurate as were both close but the Note ourperformed in one end of the spectrum while plus in the opposite, so it was a wash. That information was directly from your link, not mine.

Hmm, what you're stating is akin to purchasing a TV and keeping it in Dynamic mode because its too much of a hassle to toggle it to movie or cinema mode(or ISF modes for certified panels), since those are the ones used to achieve REC709 standards and enable W/B gains and offsets for calibration

OLED has nothing to do with saturated colors. It has to do with the type of technology used to display an image which is emmissive compared to transmissive. It is a superior display technology because it capable of displaying inifinite contrast. Color tracking has nothing to do with tech itself but the companys ability to implement proper color filters for tracking and software for grayscale and gamma tracking.

I've been a videophile for over 18yrs, so please spare me.

Just like your previous posts, it is best you inform yourself before making nonsensical comments. Just because you will them to be true, doesnt make them so.
 
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