Who is tempted to buy a Note 9 today?

[Cryates]

The Apple Watch was a big factor that brought me back to the iOS ecosystem back in March. Wear OS looked like a mess so I wasn't willing to give anything else a try. I've got the Gear S3 Frontier now though and couldn't be happier with it. It looks and feels like a traditional watch, which I like, and it's a little more feature-rich than the Apple Watch.

 

[UKapple]

Would have still been an easy fit if it wasn't for the AW.

Tell me about it! Would end up having to sell that and the wife thought it would be a good idea a few months ago to buy a HomePod which would be pretty much made redundant if I went back to the android side.

What I sometimes miss about the note is how much it mirrors almost everything that your PC does, from signing and saving documents in a file system to the easy management of photos and media without the need for bloody iTunes!

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Tell me about it! Would end up having to sell that and the wife thought it would be a good idea a few months ago to buy a HomePod which would be pretty much made redundant if I went back to the android side.

What I sometimes miss about the note is how much it mirrors almost everything that your PC does, from signing and saving documents in a file system to the easy management of photos and media without the need for bloody iTunes!

How do like the HomePod? Thinking about getting my mom one as a X-mas gift. She has a Echo 2, but it doesn't like her and acts stubborn. LOL

 

[jamezr]

Tell me about it! Would end up having to sell that and the wife thought it would be a good idea a few months ago to buy a HomePod which would be pretty much made redundant if I went back to the android side.

What I sometimes miss about the note is how much it mirrors almost everything that your PC does, from signing and saving documents in a file system to the easy management of photos and media without the need for bloody iTunes!

This is me as well. I wish IOS had a file system where I can create folders download data into them and manage them anyway I wanted without iTunes. Then please....please......let me arrange my damn icons in anyway I see fit lol. This is 2018 and any mobile OS should let me arrange my icons where I want them

 

[UKapple]

How do like the HomePod? Thinking about getting my mom one as a X-mas gift. She has a Echo 2, but it doesn't like her and acts stubborn. LOL

I’ve been very impressed with the HomePod! The sound quality is up there with the best and is a much higher quality than my sound bar. It also connects to the ATV seamlessly. Only downside I can see is that Siri isn’t as good as say google from the AI side of things.

 

[UKapple]

This is me as well. I wish IOS had a file system where I can create folders download data into them and manage them anyway I wanted without iTunes. Then please....please......let me arrange my damn icons in anyway I see fit lol. This is 2018 and any mobile OS should let me arrange my icons where I want them

Totally agree. Having to create files for photos and sync and manage them through iTunes to me is just to clunky and inconvenient.

 

[csurfr]

Then those people will put their phone face down so you can see the Apple logo through the case.

I would be very interested to read your thoughts on the Note 9 Sounds like you at least have an open mind.
You might like it...then you might hate or not like it enough to replace you iphone.

Gotta stick with what works best in your use cases

I will definitely post my thoughts, both good and bad. . . I think it will be here Tuesday.

 

[Cryates]

Totally agree. Having to create files for photos and sync and manage them through iTunes to me is just to clunky and inconvenient.

But then you'd have less reason to by a Mac, am I right?

 

[widgeteer]

No one has to out you as anything. Your posts and reputation here speaks for itself.....

As long as you're still making honest feature comparisons.

 

[bigjnyc]

Great hardware but I just can't stomach Android OS, way too messy for me.... and iMessage is a big factor for me since about 98% of the people i correspond with have iPhones. Also I am in a few really old group chats with close friends, that I would hate to disrupt because I'm the only one without iMessage.

 

[Srbell67]

Great hardware but I just can't stomach Android OS, way too messy for me.... and iMessage is a big factor for me since about 98% of the people i correspond with have iPhones. Also I am in a few really old group chats with close friends, that I would hate to disrupt because I'm the only one without iMessage.

Agreed. I’d feel like an idiot being the only one w green bubbles which would also disrupt the consistency and continuity of the text threads.

 

[csurfr]

Agreed. I’d feel like an idiot being the only one w green bubbles which would also disrupt the consistency and continuity of the text threads.

That isn’t how it works. If one person has a non iPhone then all messages show up green. For all users.

 

[Srbell67]

That isn’t how it works. If one person has a non iPhone then all messages show up green. For all users.

Yes, that’s what I’m referring to. I’d be the one who messes up the continuity of the thread.

 

[csurfr]

Yes, that’s what I’m referring to. I’d be the one who messes up the continuity of the thread.

It changes absolutely nothing at all. Just the protocol that is being used. You make it sound like one bubble will be blue and one will be green. In fact it would be the exact same way should someone in your thread have a low signal and iMessage sent it as an sms instead.

I’m sorry, but as a current owner of an iPhone X, with a Note 9 on the way, that sounds like a terrible excuse.

No wonder articles have been written about people not wanting to date one another because of the color of the chat bubble when they send a message. First world problems indeed.

 

[Srbell67]

It changes absolutely nothing at all. Just the protocol that is being used. You make it sound like one bubble will be blue and one will be green. In fact it would be the exact same way should someone in your thread have a low signal and iMessage sent it as an sms instead.

I’m sorry, but as a current owner of an iPhone X, with a Note 9 on the way, that sounds like a terrible excuse.

No wonder articles have been written about people not wanting to date one another because of the color of the chat bubble when they send a message. First world problems indeed.

Um, you’re on an Internet forum that is debating whether or not to buy an iPhone or a $1000 Samsung Galaxy Note 9. Of course these are ALL first world problems, genius.

 

[csurfr]

Um, you’re on an Internet forum that is debating whether or not to buy an iPhone or a $1000 Samsung Galaxy Note 9. Of course these are ALL first world problems, genius.

And you’re concerned about the color of your chat bubble. Back to writing code.

/ignored.

 

[Cryates]

Remember how some folks said the iPhone has no factor in social status? Look no further than the above posts. Afarid to be a green bubble amongst all their blue bubble friends.

 

[nrvna76]

Somebody in a recent thread made the comment that the ecosystem can also act like a prison... I think this is what that was referring to. Rightly or wrongly the fact that a person during their decision for smartphone purchases has to consider the impact (or perceived impact) on other people with which they contact is kind of sad. And that in and of itself is Apples fault.

 

[Srbell67]

Remember how some folks said the iPhone has no factor in social status? Look no further than the above posts. Afarid to be a green bubble amongst all their blue bubble friends.

Easy there, Mr. Supercilious. I’m not referring to becoming a green chat bubble per se. I’m referring to the fact that one non-iOS user in a text thread changes the entire complexity of it (ie pictures are resized; videos are compressed and downgraded in quality; etc).

 

[Cryates]

Easy there, Mr. Supercilious. I’m not referring to becoming a green chat bubble per se.

First off, you're the one who specifically said this (see below), so remind me again who the supercilious one is?

Agreed. I’d feel like an idiot being the only one w green bubbles which would also disrupt the consistency and continuity of the text threads.

Maybe coding is making you an ass?

And second, I don't code (not sure where that came from?). I'm just a nerd on a forum who loves to talk about tech, and is now thankful for the ignore button.

 

[Sevanw]

Easy there, Mr. Supercilious. I’m not referring to becoming a green chat bubble per se. I’m referring to the fact that one non-iOS user in a text thread changes the entire complexity of it (ie pictures are resized; videos are compressed and downgraded in quality; etc).

And you're accepting of Apple doing this? Do you let any other company influence your purchase in this manner? I've said this many times before, the second worst thing to happen in the tech industry is a closed ecosystem. The first worst thing being, the people who buy into them. Willfully allowing these companies to control everything. They don't even realize how they are only hurting themselves when it comes to choice. You sit there and wait for options that you would want (ex. bigger OLED displays), and only when the company that controls your purchase is ready to offer it, will you get it. It's actuality quite sad. I have to ask, is there any other company you allow to do this to you?

 

[Cryates]

I'm perfectly fine with Apple's approach, and how they've gone about building their ecosystem. It doesn't work for me personally, and I want different things now than what they are willing to offer, but I'm not going to fault them for building this behemoth walled garden, and doing it the way they have. It's a business and they've done a damn good job at building an incredibly loyal user base. Loyal to a fault at times, but loyal nonetheless. Folks stay because of what they have built and because they like the services offered, and they like how those services intertwine between devices. There's a certain level of comfort and trust you have to have in technology, espeically with as fast as it's growing, and the loyalty comes from users feeling that comfort with what Apple is offering.

Apple makes damn good products, and damn good services, but they also understand that to keep growing the business they need to keep people close to home. It's human instinct to stray away. I honestly believe that each and every one of us nerds on this forum flirt with testing the waters on a new device, whether it be an notorious Android user being tempted by an iOS device or vica versa. Some would deny it, but I won't believe it. Otherwise we wouldn't be lurking in both sides of the forum. Anyways, I think Apple is aware of this human instinct and they know that limiting certain things here and there will keep folks from leaving home. Whether it be iMessage being iOS only, or non-iOS devices not being able to cast to HomePod, or Apple Watch only working with iOS devices, etc...those are the things that remind people why they shouldn't leave the garden.

But when did humans lose self dignity? Why should we make decisions that only truly impact ourselves with our friends best interests in mind? Tenfold when it's something as small as becoming a green bubble. I never approach a tech purchase with anything but my own interests in mind. Imagine if you had real problems to worry about.

I just can't blame Apple for users taking pride in being a blue bubble, or showing of their Apple logo with a cutout. It's what the company wants, and it's really the result of how successfully they've built the company. I'm moving on from Apple now, for my own reasons and no one elses, but that doesn't mean anybody has to come with me. Be a blue bubble if it makes you happy. Don't be afraid to be a green bubble. But whatever you do, do it for you. This is the last I'll contribute to the topic honestly.

Sorry for the long post. It's late and I'm restless tonight for some reason.

 

[M5RahuL]

I’d already have gotten the N9 was it not for TMobile’s greedy JOD downpayment requirement now.

Maybe I’ll still get it, strange from Sammy albeit when it’s discounted a bit, esp the 512/8GB version.

 

[widgeteer]

And you're accepting of Apple doing this? Do you let any other company influence your purchase in this manner? I've said this many times before, the second worst thing to happen in the tech industry is a closed ecosystem. The first worst thing being, the people who buy into them. Willfully allowing these companies to control everything. They don't even realize how they are only hurting themselves when it comes to choice. You sit there and wait for options that you would want (ex. bigger OLED displays), and only when the company that controls your purchase is ready to offer it, will you get it. It's actuality quite sad. I have to ask, is there any other company you allow to do this to you?

Apple has zero control over carrier SMS texting standards.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I’d already have gotten the N9 was it not for TMobile’s greedy JOD downpayment requirement now.

Maybe I’ll still get it, strange from Sammy albeit when it’s discounted a bit, esp the 512/8GB version.

Did they require a downpayment in-store with the device available(not backordered)? Or are you speaking about online?

Cause most likely in-store JOD trade up would be absolutely no charge. Just a change in the monthly lease bill.

At least it's been that way for me the last three years with Samsung flagship, include with the S9+.