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SomeGuyDude

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Mar 19, 2011
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I just said what was skewed:/

They didn't take into account the differences between the hardware using each OS.

Show me a comparison of, say, the Nexus 5 on kitkat 4.4.4 vs the iPhone 5S on iOS 7.1 and then we'll have a fair comparison

IMO that still barely matters. We'd be talking a percent of a percent of instability difference between the two. Both are stable, strong, have awesome apps, and the devices have phenomenal hardware.

When it comes to which to get, the ONLY question someone should be asking is "how do you use your phone and what features are important?"
 

Oletros

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IMO that still barely matters. We'd be talking a percent of a percent of instability difference between the two. Both are stable, strong, have awesome apps, and the devices have phenomenal hardware.

When it comes to which to get, the ONLY question someone should be asking is "how do you use your phone and what features are important?"

Exactly this
 

rtomyj

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Sep 3, 2012
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Sorry but it's almost always an android person saying something bad about iOS that gets it started.

What I got from your post; android is not laggy... Unless you use a skin (most android phones have a skin). Also, you need to actually know about Android to enjoy it... The beauty of iOS is that there is a small learning curve. Like you just stated, android needs tinkering to make it not laggy. No thanks.

Have a nexus 7 that lagged like crazy. And a nexus 5 that is pretty fine so far.. Waiting on Lollipop though..
 

deeddawg

macrumors G5
Jun 14, 2010
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Why do some apple fanboys hate on android for no reason?

For the same reason some android fandroids hate on anything Apple for no reason.

Emotional Immaturity.

Some people get their self-identiity all wrapped up with their choice of platform, thereby engendering an emotional response when someone criticizes their chosen platform. Just as you have some immature android afficionados hanging out on MACrumors for no reason other than to cause strife, you have some Apple afficionados that feel a need to bash Android.

Same thing happened in the Great OS Wars of the late 20th century, only in Usenet newsgroups instead of Internet Forums. :D

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Sorry but it's almost always an android person saying something bad about iOS that gets it started.

Well, remember where you are.

I don't hang out on AndroidCentral or whatever is the MR equivalent since I don't currently have any Android devices. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't suffer the same trolling as you find here.
 

BeeGood

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Sep 15, 2013
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What has to do the hardware with the apps crashing?

Are you saying that is worse to have just a few models to app crashing?

And, please, read the report, ALL the Android versions crash less than the equivalent iOS version so, I repeat, where is the skew?

I'm pretty sure that devices with less memory and weaker chips would crash to the home screen more frequently. I could be wrong as I'm not a dev but that would go against everything I've observed on older phones that my family has owned.

And, I did, in fact, read the report. The fact that it is comparing different iterations of the two OS' is irrelevant. Every version of Android has run on comparatively newer hardware when compared to its iOS counterpart. I used 4.4.4 vs 7.1 because that's the most recent comparison done in this study.

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IMO that still barely matters. We'd be talking a percent of a percent of instability difference between the two. Both are stable, strong, have awesome apps, and the devices have phenomenal hardware.

When it comes to which to get, the ONLY question someone should be asking is "how do you use your phone and what features are important?"

This wasn't the point I was trying to make. My response was to the guy who posted this article as proof that android is more stable than iOS when it's not proof at all.

And for the record, I have owned a Nexus 5, an LG G3, an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 6 in 2014, and I agree. Both platforms are fantastic. So much so that I can never make up my mind.
 
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s15119

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Nov 20, 2010
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Some people hate broccoli and love beans, other people love beans and hate broccoli. Some people can't stand either one. Might as well ask, why are humans human?

Also, labeling people as "fanboy" seems more a way to dismiss them than to really try to understand motive.

I've used iPhones and pads since the 1st iPhone. I now use a Note 4 as my main phone. I love gadgets.
 

CEmajr

macrumors 601
Dec 18, 2012
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1,296
Charlotte, NC
I've tried Android several times and each time ended up coming back to iOS.

For me iOS just provides an all around more enjoyable user experience.

- iOS apps are usually slightly superior to their Android counterparts and are released on iOS sooner.
- The iPhone is tightly integrated with my iPad and Macbook. Apple customer service is top notch. They totally blow away every Android OEM in that department. Something wrong with my Apple product? Take it to the store and get it checked out even if it's out of warranty. Something wrong with your Android? Spend a week mailing it back to the company and waiting for a new one to come. Phone out of warranty? Apple Stores will still take a look at it and offer you an out of warranty replacement at a decent price. Android out of warranty? Samsung/HTC/Sony etc. don't know who you are anymore. Prepare to pay $599 for a new device.
- iPhones have extremely high resale value relative to Androids which in turn makes it easier for me to upgrade each year.
- iTunes and the iPhone music app are more stable than any of the music apps I downloaded and tried from the Play Store.
- iPhones consistently have one of the best, if not the best smartphone camera on the market
- Android manufacturers do love to integrate every new piece of tech as soon as it's available. However with Apple once they decide to integrate new technology you can rest assured that they've found an easy to use and intuitive way to integrate it which the Android OEMs failed to do.
- iPhones get timely updates. When a new iOS version is available all iPhones that are 3 years or less old get them immediately. How many 3 or even 2 year old Android devices are on Lollipop?
- iPhones tend to have much better general stability as well. "Force Close" or other random crashes were a lot more common with Androids I've used compared to iOS devices.

Features I liked from Android that would be nice on iOS:
- Dedicated File System
- Contact photos in the messages app
- 50GB free Dropbox storage

So there's no blind hate. I've tried Android and found it to be inferior for my uses and doubt I'll ever use one as my main phone again.
 

quickcalibre

macrumors regular
Sep 20, 2013
191
32
London
Eh, it goes both ways, the amount of stick I get from android fans is depressing. Even though I have no opinion on what phone they choose to use.
 

SomeGuyDude

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2011
730
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This wasn't the point I was trying to make. My response was to the guy who posted this article as proof that android is more stable than iOS when it's not proof at all.

And for the record, I have owned a Nexus 5, an LG G3, an iPhone 5S and an iPhone 6 in 2014, and I agree. Both platforms are fantastic. So much so that I can never make up my mind.

Sorry, phrased badly. I was agreeing with your point because, even taking into account that they were using sort of incomparable hardware sets, the two numbers are so stupidly close to one another that an end user, given both devices, is not going to have an appreciable difference.
 

Bobby Corwen

macrumors 68030
Jul 16, 2010
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I've tried Android several times and each time ended up coming back to iOS.

For me iOS just provides an all around more enjoyable user experience.

- iOS apps are usually slightly superior to their Android counterparts and are released on iOS sooner.
- The iPhone is tightly integrated with my iPad and Macbook. Apple customer service is top notch. They totally blow away every Android OEM in that department. Something wrong with my Apple product? Take it to the store and get it checked out even if it's out of warranty. Something wrong with your Android? Spend a week mailing it back to the company and waiting for a new one to come. Phone out of warranty? Apple Stores will still take a look at it and offer you an out of warranty replacement at a decent price. Android out of warranty? Samsung/HTC/Sony etc. don't know who you are anymore. Prepare to pay $599 for a new device.
- iPhones have extremely high resale value relative to Androids which in turn makes it easier for me to upgrade each year.
- iTunes and the iPhone music app are more stable than any of the music apps I downloaded and tried from the Play Store.
- iPhones consistently have one of the best, if not the best smartphone camera on the market
- Android manufacturers do love to integrate every new piece of tech as soon as it's available. However with Apple once they decide to integrate new technology you can rest assured that they've found an easy to use and intuitive way to integrate it which the Android OEMs failed to do.
- iPhones get timely updates. When a new iOS version is available all iPhones that are 3 years or less old get them immediately. How many 3 or even 2 year old Android devices are on Lollipop?
- iPhones tend to have much better general stability as well. "Force Close" or other random crashes were a lot more common with Androids I've used compared to iOS devices.

Features I liked from Android that would be nice on iOS:
- Dedicated File System
- Contact photos in the messages app
- 50GB free Dropbox storage

So there's no blind hate. I've tried Android and found it to be inferior for my uses and doubt I'll ever use one as my main phone again.

But wait I thought they were identical and all we have to decide is what features and specs we prefer...
 

TruthWatcher412

macrumors 6502a
Sep 15, 2011
766
832
Pittsburgh, PA
If anything, Apple gets more hate. Android fanboys are worse from what I've seen.

Yup, check out any iPhone/Apple article on Phone Arena and you'll see people hating on Apple as if it was Nazi Germany.

Me personally, I use an iPhone and a Mac and love iOS but I have a Nexus 7 tablet too and Android has it's own positives. It's all personal preference.
 

Oletros

macrumors 603
Jul 27, 2009
6,002
60
Premià de Mar
I'm pretty sure that devices with less memory and weaker chips would crash to the home screen more frequently. I could be wrong as I'm not a dev but that would go against everything I've observed on older phones that my family has owned.

And, I did, in fact, read the report. The fact that it is comparing different iterations of the two OS' is irrelevant. Every version of Android has run on comparatively newer hardware when compared to its iOS counterpart. I used 4.4.4 vs 7.1 because that's the most recent comparison done in this study.


They are not comparing the OS when it was released
 

chagla

macrumors 6502a
Mar 21, 2008
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You dont have to pair the phone to the computer with iTunes in order to boot it up that isnt true at all, what is your point with the Moto E? All smartphones can and do the same thing, take pictures and videos, run apps, etc, its just that the new smartphones do it much faster, clearer, better, smoother, with better cameras and better performance and battery life and design.

Its clear you never owned a iPhone to say that you need to connect it to iTunes in order for it to work, you dont need any computer at all to set up your iPhone/iOS device, its been like that for a while now.

Yeah you cant download things from Safari browser, but i found a App on the app store where I can download music straight from the application so... And removeable battery and storage is a preference and design choice, the Plus has one of the best battery lifes in a smartphone on the market right now, the 4.7 inch i6 does pretty well too although not the best on battery life

Similarily specced phones cost almost just as much as the iPhone, i dont get where you made that up or got that from

how do you get content from pc to your iphone without using itunes? also can you email attach non-picture files when replying to emails on ios?
 

dk206

macrumors regular
Sep 27, 2012
194
20
London
You sound like one of those Android fanboy that hates Apple for no reason.

Lol android people don't hate apple for no reason. They know there is A LOT more to a smartphone than what apple has to offer

More like Apple fan boys hate android. Humans fear what they don't know.
 

mib1800

Suspended
Sep 16, 2012
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Understood, but how many android devices were running kitkat in March 2014?

How many of those devices were made prior to 2013?

I suspect more than all iOS devices put together. But that's beside the point. All versions of iOS have higher crash rate than any version of Android. The main point is Android is more stable than iOS (and not the other way round which many here believed).
 

SnowLeopard2008

macrumors 604
Jul 4, 2008
6,772
18
Silicon Valley
Same reason why some Android fanboys hate on Apple/iOS for no reason. It goes both ways. To quell any flaming towards me... I didn't jump on any bandwagon, I have used every iOS and Android since version 1 (Cupcake and iOS 1).
 
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