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tech4all

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Because Eric Schmidt is a dishonest, back stabbing, ugly MF'er.

Who sat on Apple's Board as SJ's friend, then used the ideas against SJ.

It's all about that mid morning coffee at the Cafe, right Eric?

I do not know how he can look at himself in the mirror. :mad:

SMH. It's funny how emotional some get. Name calling...hope you're not an adult, cause that's not someone who I'd want to assoicate with. Probably couldn't even hold a decent conversation without feeling I was back in kindergarten saying "eww you have coodies!"

Time to grow up man. Time to grow up. :rolleyes:
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
I suspect more than all iOS devices put together. But that's beside the point. All versions of iOS have higher crash rate than any version of Android. The main point is Android is more stable than iOS (and not the other way round which many here believed).

You got that wrong. All versions of IOS have a lower crash rate than all versions of android in total.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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It is easy to prove. Apple market cap 660b, hundreds of millions IOS devices. How is Samsung doing?

LOL……so the highlighted above is your proof of this statement?

Originally Posted by I7guy View Post
You got that wrong. All versions of IOS have a lower crash rate than all versions of android in total.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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I'm hardly an iOS/Apple fanboy, but Android just sucks. Look at how much RAM you need on an Android phone, vs an iPhone or Windows Phone :D

I had a nice reply drafted up on my iPhone 6, but I had to look up something in another app and when I came back to my post, my tab was refreshed. Too bad I don't have 2gb of RAM to stop this from happening in iOS all the time. :( /s

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It is easy to prove. Apple market cap 660b, hundreds of millions IOS devices. How is Samsung doing?

You do realize Samsung Mobile is a small piece of Samsung corporation, right? And they have billions (with a 'b') of phones in the market space. Does this mean one company is better than the other? Nope.
 

Oletros

macrumors 603
Jul 27, 2009
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You got that wrong. All versions of IOS have a lower crash rate than all versions of android in total.

You're just laughing at us, aren't you?

It is easy to prove. Apple market cap 660b, hundreds of millions IOS devices. How is Samsung doing?

Ah, yes, you're just joking.

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Understood, but how many android devices were running kitkat in March 2014?

How many of those devices were made prior to 2013?

I give up.

Yes, the ****ing study is flawed, it is full of lies and, also, it is not done with a pretty font.

Happy? Au dios
 

Savor

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For me it doesn't bother me if fanboys HATE other platforms including one I prefer. That is what fanboys are supposed to do. Love one, bash the other. It can be found in other topics like console wars and fans of certain athletes.

I just find it hilarious when Apple fanboys bash Android but use Google's services anyway! I think iPhones are like vehicles online but Google owns the roads to Information Superhighway. If Google was any more evil, they probably would have kept their services to Android users EXCLUSIVELY.

Find the most apps and larger ecosystem, Google tops Apple in most categories. Steve Jobs was wrong that Google was only great at Search. It is the tangible things Apple does better than Google. The intangibles is where Google owns Apple users. Remember when Apple had their own maps but most ran back to Google Maps?

It shouldn't really bother me if haters are gonna hate Android which owns like 85% of the market and Google has over 1 BILLION users to some of their services. Apple is way behind in most areas except profits and survey satisfaction. Not just smartphones and OS, but services and most used ecosystem too. Everytime, the more open platform wins. Everytime.

Microsoft Windows (not open per se) but was licensed to other OEM's to use.

Windows Mobile & then Symbian.

Android is the winner of this gen.

Closed platforms have always lost when a open one was available and cheaper.



 

I7guy

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For me it doesn't bother me if fanboys HATE other platforms including one I prefer. That is what fanboys are supposed to do. Love one, bash the other. It can be found in other topics like console wars and fans of certain athletes.

I just find it hilarious when Apple fanboys bash Android but use Google's services anyway! I think iPhones are like vehicles online but Google owns the roads to Information Superhighway. If Google was any more evil, they probably would have kept their services to Android users EXCLUSIVELY.

Find the most apps and larger ecosystem, Google tops Apple in most categories. Steve Jobs was wrong that Google was only great at Search. It is the tangible things Apple does better than Google. The intangibles is where Google owns Apple users. Remember when Apple had their own maps but most ran back to Google Maps?

It shouldn't really bother me if haters are gonna hate Android which owns like 85% of the market and Google has over 1 BILLION users to some of their services. Apple is way behind in most areas except profits and survey satisfaction. Not just smartphones and OS, but services and most used ecosystem too. Everytime, the more open platform wins. Everytime.

Microsoft Windows (not open per se) but was licensed to other OEM's to use.

Windows Mobile & then Symbian.

Android is the winner of this gen.

Closed platforms have always lost when a open one was available and cheaper.

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I would agree with you normally, except for apples market cap and stock price. They (Apple) clearly are the winner as well as with their Jd power survey results.

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Immaturity
Fear
Insecurity
Hero worship of their departed leader
Pack mentality
Blind loyalty

Who is the departed leader for android fanboys?
 

mercuryjones

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May 31, 2005
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I hate on Android because:
1. I've used it and found it lacking.
2. It's fun to watch the truly emotional Android users go crazy trying to get me to understand how "open" and "amazing" Android is. What's really funny is listening to them try to explain how it's so much better than iOS by repeating the same tired mantra over and over - "closed garden", "side loading", "customizibility", etc.

That said, Android has come a long way since the beginning, but I prefer to have my phone work for me, instead of the other way around.
 

MasterRyu2011

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There are fanboys and fangirls on both sides.

However, the most annoying are the extreme versions.

On the Apple camp, those are the people who could not possibly fathom why anyone would want anything other than an Apple device. Their favorite remarks are something like "Huh..why not just get an iPhone (or iPad)". or "Yeah...I know you can do all that with a Droid (lolz..Droid) but I just want something that works and hey, it's Apple". They also tend to think any mobile product whose name that doesn't start with an i must be cheap-quality. Their vision of Android is still stuck in 2010 when Apple did have a big lead in the user experience and overall display aesthetics.

On the Android front, those are the people who just can't wait to tell others how much Apple has been outpaced by Android. These are the people who seek every opportunity they get when a phone topic comes up and tries too hard to volunteer their consultation services on why the Apple user is keeping themselves back and overpaying by using an Apple device.

There is also a new group emerging; I label them the "Apple type but not Apple" fanboys. They are the Samsung supporters who only really think Android = Samsung. They can't possibly fathom why anyone would want to use an Android phone that is not made by Samsung. Their recommendation on an Apple alternative is usually always either the Galaxy S or the Note series without including any other Android OEM.

Again, these are the extreme fanboys/girls. I think the generalizations fit well.
 
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bearboy

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Like many here in the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" forum I float between both ecosystems. I have a Galaxy Note 4, an LG G2, an iPad Air 2 and an old iPod touch (3rd gen). I was long time iPhone user from the original to the 4s then made the jump to Android.

I prefer Android [phones] because you can customize it to your liking, plus the swappable battery and SD card slot is perfect for on the go (in Samsung's case). Is it perfect? Hell no, it lags a bit from time to time but only when I'm driving it hard.

As far as tablets, I still think the iPad is king as far as ease of use and performance. I had an Nexus (2013) tablet and loved it but Android developers still need to work on tablet centric apps if they are going to beat the iPad. Now is the iPad perfect? Hell no, it lags a bit to but it works for me.

I'm generalizing here and don't want to get into the nitty-gritty of each OS. But each has their strengths and weaknesses and you should enjoy the device you have.
 
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bearboy

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Jul 12, 2010
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They're equal in most regards. Lag exists, it's just a fact of life.

In all honesty, I would still be on Android if iOS weren't so universally compatible with pretty much every gadget and doo-dad. TBH both platforms, for a casual end user, are equal, just different. You can easily do the same stuff with the phone itself, it just comes down to which workflow you prefer and how many accessories and how much gadget integration you need.


Yeah that is area that Android needs to expand on. Samsung has some traction in the aftermarket accessories market, but besides cases most other Android devices have very few accessories out there.
 

SomeGuyDude

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2011
730
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Yeah that is area that Android needs to expand on. Samsung has some traction in the aftermarket accessories market, but besides cases most other Android devices have very few accessories out there.

Google did the most idiotic thing in completely hosing Android's USB output. It forced Samsung and HTC to patch it and do workarounds so you could use things like external DAC's or car hookups (AFAIK the HTC m8 was one of the ONLY phones expressly compatible for a while).

It's one big reason I'm back on iOS actually.
 

Ccrew

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Feb 28, 2011
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Google did the most idiotic thing in completely hosing Android's USB output. It forced Samsung and HTC to patch it and do workarounds so you could use things like external DAC's or car hookups (AFAIK the HTC m8 was one of the ONLY phones expressly compatible for a while).

It's one big reason I'm back on iOS actually.

Yeah, but car hookups could have easily been done with Bluetooth, but some vendors (*cough* Apple) don't want to implement the full stack there either.

My My Ford Touch system for all it's quirks still works better with Android than it ever did with IOS. It's half the reason I switched back to Android.

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Are you drunk or off somewhere in the american dream?

Naa, When the sheeple don't have anything else they fall back on Market cap. Never mind at that cap they're still only 20% share.

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On the Apple camp, those are the people who could not possibly fathom why anyone would want anything other than an Apple device.

I think you missed a an older but still growing trend as Android has narrowed the quality gap. That is the ones that can't make an argument "ooooh, Touchwiz sucks" which dovetails perfectly into your android = Samsung.
 

Savor

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I was re-reading The Game by Neil Strauss (aka Style). Hadn't read it in seven years right before VH1 produced the Pick-Up Artist hosted by Mystery. I remember how much of a d-bag the pick-up artist Tyler Durden was. He would copy everything his teachers did and try to eliminate all of them. He wasn't an original pick-up artist but a copycat artist. I feel Kobe Bryant did the same thing to Michael Jordan. I felt Google and Eric Schmidt did the same thing to Apple. I think Xiaomi also copies Apple to some extent. I despise copycats. Maybe that is why Apple fanboys hate Android. It was a stolen idea. True, Android was founded back in 2003. Google bought it in 2005 and the early years Android looked more like BlackBerry than iOS.

But over the years, I realized alot of philosophies are different. From a superficial standpoint, yeah it might look the same. Kobe might look like the best MJ-wannabe with so many similar moves he borrowed from the GOAT. But they have enough differences. MJ played smarter, had bigger hands, and glided to the basket so elegantly. Athletically, he was superior. His body control was beautiful. Kobe has more range and better left-hand dribble. Kobe is more of an extension to MJ's 2nd threepeat. Android's approach is also much more different than iOS. The openness is there. You can choose apps as defaults when opening a media file again. Xiaomi is also different from Apple esp in business model and how they make their money.

It shouldn't be judged simply on a few similar things that we "SEE." We shouldn't dwell on just similarities. There is very few original ideas nowadays. Everyone needs inspiration. In music, artists do covers and recycle the same sound. Apple didn't INVENT OSes. They borrowed ideas too. Copycat arguments are petty. It would be like saying a white guy wore a t-shirt or certain shoes. A black guy wore the same t-shirt or certain shoes the same day. Now both of them are really the same or we should fault the other guy who didn't come up with the wardrobe first? If you want ORIGINALS, you would have to go back to Motorola and then Nokia. The latter Apple had lost to in the courtroom. Both Motorola and Nokia are as irrelevant now faster than you can say Atari in video games.

Jordan himself had long been an interested observer of Bryant’s pageant, as had Jackson and his staff. Comparisons of the two players routinely generated heated debates on the Internet. Frankly, Jordan didn’t see what all the fuss was about. After all, human behavior is mimetic. Humans copied and aped one another, like every rock band that for decades had sought to be the Beatles or the Rolling Stones, who themselves had derived so much from the great American bluesmen of previous generations.

Obviously his play had created a path for Bryant, Jordan observed that day. “But how many people lighted the path for me? That’s the evolution of basketball. There’s no way I could have played the way I played if I didn’t watch David Thompson and guys prior to me. There’s no way Kobe could have played the way he’s played without watching me play. So, you know, that’s the evolution of basketball. You cannot change that.”

Steve, all cars have steering wheels, but no one tries to claim that the steering wheel was their invention.

You and I are both like guys who had this rich neighbor - Xerox - who left the door open all the time. And you go sneakin' in to steal a TV set. Only when you get there, you realize that I got there first. I got the loot, Steve! And you're yellin'? "That's not fair. I wanted to try to steal it first." You're too late.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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Any thread with defamatory name calling in its title is doomed by its own oxymoronic irony..

This ENTIRE forum has turned into oxymoronic irony as evidenced by such an utterly stupid thread actually having 7 pages of discussion. Enjoy your device guys, come to the forum to discuss what you like and don't like, but for gods sake I wish these "I'm better" threads would just go away.
 
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