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Bubble99

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Wow this really bad if you have to hack the windows registry to get classic look.

Not user friendly at all.
 

TopherMan12

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Whelp I see where DISA STIGS are going with that.....

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GrumpyCoder

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No. It be NT

But the screenshots of the new taskbar and start button are looking more OSX like and Ubuntu like than windows did in the past.
Well, the UI is a mess and not intuitive, but in the end it wouldn't hold me back from using Windows as a main system. It's their kernel and protection ring, as well as the hideous registry that is the problem. As long as they don't fix that, Windows remains a gaming machine for me. I do run some research on it, but it always involves games.
 
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Serban55

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Can you make small/resize the task manager window? since they made it bigger now...for weeks and even the latest build, this is an issue for me
 

MBAir2010

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Mark Hachman PC world got a hold of windows11
and wrote that the IOS (4gb) was snap and vibrant
he also included how the system lets the user chose which style they want.
of course this is a beta they found and used that on a Surface pro 7
 

Serban55

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I dont recommend to install this beta build iso on your main windows device, its having a lot of issues. The last week i had to reinstall it 3 times, trackpad not responding and some display drivers glitches
If you have a second device you can try it and see it if you like it
 

Nermal

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It's an early leaked build that was never meant to be shown to the public right now. Don't expect most of the changes to be implemented right now.
I find it amusing that Microsoft publicly said that Windows 10 would be the last version. Microsoft has also publicly stated that Windows 10 will go out of support in 2025. Yet there's been no public announcement of any replacement.

So, taking Microsoft's official statements into account, and ignoring this leak, Microsoft is killing off Windows. Obviously not the case in reality, but it's an 'interesting' official narrative!
 

DaveFromCampbelltown

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I have just installed a copy of Win11 under Parallels. This means that it doesn't have full access to the computer's resources like RAM, CPU speed, etc.

However--
It is very impressive. It feels quite snappy. Software like WPS Office installs nicely and runs properly.

Gadgets install and run, but the Gadget management app doesn't run properly. A light coloured vertical bar shows, but you can't see the gadgets to install. Finding a gadget on the Internet, downloading it and installing it does work.

Once I get TeXLive installed I can get an idea of overall performance.
 
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ThisBougieLife

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I'll never "switch over" but I will continue to have both. I'd like to update my gaming PC with Windows 11 and hopefully do a new build if and when GPUs ever become available and normal prices again.
 

AutomaticApple

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Gadgets install and run, but the Gadget management app doesn't run properly. A light coloured vertical bar shows, but you can't see the gadgets to install. Finding a gadget on the Internet, downloading it and installing it does work.
They worked in Windows 10. I don't see why they wouldn't work in Windows 11 too.
I use this gadget all the time.
I'll never "switch over" but I will continue to have both.
Why so? Even when Windows 10 is no longer supported?
I find it amusing that Microsoft publicly said that Windows 10 would be the last version. Microsoft has also publicly stated that Windows 10 will go out of support in 2025. Yet there's been no public announcement of any replacement.

So, taking Microsoft's official statements into account, and ignoring this leak, Microsoft is killing off Windows. Obviously not the case in reality, but it's an 'interesting' official narrative!
It was a random Microsoft developer evangelist that stated so, not necessarily endorsed by Microsoft. The media ran with it and the rest is history.
 

sracer

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I hope that part of what is included in Win 11 is a more classic UI. The whitespace bloated dialogs and thin-lined fonts are a waste of screen space. I know that a true classic theme is too much to ask for, I'd settle for a Win7-era theme.
 
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AutomaticApple

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I hope that part of what is included in Win 11 is a more classic UI. The whitespace bloated dialogs and thin-lined fonts are a waste of screen space. I know that a true classic theme is too much to ask for, I'd settle for a Win7-era theme.
Sooo... more inconsistency?
 

ThisBougieLife

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Why so? Even when Windows 10 is no longer supported?

I was responding to the OP asking if anyone would switch over from macOS. But I use both macOS and Windows for different purposes so it's not a matter of switching over for me.

Of course I will upgrade from Windows 10 when I get the chance. Only in rare cases do I avoid updating OS software.
 

DaveFromCampbelltown

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I have just installed a copy of Win11 under Parallels. This means that it doesn't have full access to the computer's resources like RAM, CPU speed, etc.

However--
It is very impressive. It feels quite snappy. Software like WPS Office installs nicely and runs properly.

Gadgets install and run, but the Gadget management app doesn't run properly. A light coloured vertical bar shows, but you can't see the gadgets to install. Finding a gadget on the Internet, downloading it and installing it does work.

Once I get TeXLive installed I can get an idea of overall performance.

Ok, Office 2019, LibreOffice 7.1.4.2 (latest), WPS Office, Typora, Pandoc, Kile, LyX and TeXLive all installed and working perfectly.
TeXLive did take a little longer to install (46 mins vs 38 mins on Native Install), but then it is running only with 2 CPUs and 4 Gb RAM.
As noted above, the UI seems a little snappier.
Compiling a particular long document (lshort.tex) takes 25 seconds, just as it does on a Native Install.
Using it with only 4 GB RAM is pushing it a little, but I am very impressed at how well it is all running.

As an indication of how close this is to Windows 10, Chris Titus's 2021 Debloat script runs without problems.

My feeling, at the moment, is that Windows 11 seems to be Windows 10 tidied up and tweaked a little.

(note, for me a Native Install means installed onto an external USB 3 SSD attached to my iMac, with 8 GB RAM and 4 CPUs)

PS, the Registry is still there...
 
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bluecoast

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I really really hope that this is an early build with much of the new UX not implemented yet.

But this is Microsoft - they’ve left Windows 10 an unholy mess with UX elements co-existing from Windows 3.11, 95, XP, 7 & then 10 and seemingly didn’t care.

Still, I’m optimistic - even though I have no reason to be.
 

zakarhino

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Why are people judging the update based on a leaked build that probably doesn't even have everything enabled?

I'm not looking to switch to Windows anytime soon (unless the niche theory about Windows transitioning to a Microsoft powered Linux distro in the future comes true) but I'm looking forward to seeing if Microsoft has anything innovative to announce outside of just giving everything a facelift.

I will say I prefer what I've seen from Windows 11's window management and multi desktop system over Apple's solution. Snapping windows around and creating desktops on the fly was so easy and fast on my Windows 10 system, I really hope Apple copies a similar implementation.
 
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